Expedición Róbinson (Colombia)
Expedición Róbinson is a Colombian version of the Survivor reality television game show based on the Swedish television series Expedition Robinson originally created in 1992 by Charlie Parsons. The show is based on stranding a group of strangers as one or more tribes in a remote location, where they must fend for food, water, fire, and shelter for themselves, while competing in challenges to earn rewards and immunity from being voted off by the tribe in progressive eliminations; the last challenger remaining at the end of the competition wins two a reward that ranges from two hundred million to three hundred million pesos prize (100-150 hundred thousandUS$) and title of "Colombian Robinson".
Overview
Expedición Róbinson rights were bought by Caracol TV in 2001.[1] This television network produced the first two seasons of Expedition Robinson. Both seasons were hosted by former beauty queen and actress Margarita Rosa de Francisco.[2] Two years later, rights for Expedición Robinson were sold to RCN TV. The series changed its original name to La Isla de los FamoS.O.S. ("Famous People Island", in English), in which all contestants were celebrities of Colombia. RCN TV has produced three seasons of La Isla de los FamoS.O.S. and all three of them have been hosted by journalist Guillermo Prieto "Pirry". For its part, Caracol TV has developed a variation of the show whose name is El desafío 20-0_ (in which the last number represents the year the season has been aired. i.e. Desafío 20-08[3]). So far, five seasons of El Desafío have been aired, three of them hosted by Margarita Rosa de Francisco again.
Expedición Robinson
Expedición Robinson aired two seasons in 2001 and 2002, respectively before being sold. Both seasons were a hit in Colombian audience. These seasons followed the same general format as the Swedish series.
Season 1: Expedición Róbinson
The show's first season was filmed during 2001 and was aired later that year. It was set on Bocas del Toro, off the Caribbean Coast of Panama.[4]
16 Colombians (8 women and 8 men) took part in the first season. The price was 200 million Colombian pesos. Contestants were divided into two initial tribes: Ukups and Atchas, these Kuna words mean "ants" and "bees", respectively. Ukup team was represented by yellow color as Atcha team was represented by orange color.
Thirteen episodes aired weekly on Sundays. Each episode lasted an hour except the season finale which lasted two hours. Besides official episodes, "El Diario Robinson" was aired during every week the show lasted on air. It was a 15 minutes long program in which unseen scenes from each episode were shot.
The show was won by Rolando Patarroyo. He was part of the Atcha tribe, who were outnumbered by the Ukup tribe at tribal merger. He won the 200 million pesos price and was presented as "the first Colombian Robinson". Marlon Restrepo, the runner-up of this season was rewarded with a van.
Participants
Contestant | Original Tribe | Switched Tribe | Merged Tribe | Finish | Total votes |
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Ledys Patricia García 34, Barranquilla |
Atcha | 1st Voted Out Day 3 |
6 | ||
Jorge "Goyo" Lozano 32, Bogotá |
Atcha | 2nd Voted Out Day 6 |
5 | ||
Selene Baron 41, Bogotá |
Ukup | 3rd Voted Out Day 9 |
7 | ||
Rosina 62, Bogotá |
Atcha | 4th Voted Out Day 12 |
4 | ||
Catalina Jaimes 21, Medellín |
Atcha | 5th Voted Out Day 15 |
8 | ||
Mónica Londoño 23, Medellín |
Ukup | Ukup | 6th Voted Out Day 18 |
4 | |
Luis Miguel 33, Manizales |
Atcha | Ukup | Korgi | 7th Voted Out Day 21 |
10 |
Ramón 28, Santa Marta |
Ukup | Ukup | 8th Voted Out 1st Jury Member Day 24 |
4 | |
Pedro Luis Falla 25, Neiva |
Atcha | Atcha | 9th Voted Out 2nd Jury Member Day 27 |
7 | |
Mauricio Arango 61, Medellín |
Ukup | Ukup | 10th Voted Out 3rd Jury Member Day 30 |
4 | |
Lorena 19, Tuluá |
Atcha | Atcha | 11th Voted Out 4th Jury Member Day 33 |
4 | |
Rafael Barrera 27, Barranquilla |
Ukup | Atcha | 12th Voted Out 5th Jury Member Day 36 |
3 | |
Anny Cadena 33, Bucaramanga |
Ukup | Ukup | 13th Voted Out 6th Jury Member Day 37 |
6 | |
Luisa Fernanda Bejarano 18, Buga |
Ukup | Ukup | Eliminated 7th Jury Member Day 38 |
8 | |
Marlon Restrepo 25, Medellín |
Ukup | Ukup | Runner-Up Day 39 |
3 | |
Rolando Patarroyo 25, Bogotá |
Atcha | Atcha | Sole Survivor Day 39 |
4 | |
Voting history
Original Tribes | Swap | Merged Tribe | |||||||||||||||
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Episode #: | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | ||||
Eliminated: | Patricia 6/8 votes |
Goyo 4/7 votes |
Selene 7/8 votes |
Rosina 3/6 votes |
Catalina 4/5 votes |
Mónica 4/7 votes |
Luis Miguel 9/10 votes |
Ramón 4/9 votes |
Pedro 4/8 votes |
Mauricio 4/7 votes |
Lorena 4/6 votes |
Rafael 3/5 votes |
Anny 1 vote1 |
Luisa No vote2 |
Marlon 2/7 votes |
Rolando 5/7 votes | |
Voter | Vote | ||||||||||||||||
Rolando | Patricia | Catalina | Rosina | Catalina | Luis Miguel | Ramón | Luisa | Luisa | Luisa | Rafael | Jury Vote | ||||||
Marlon | Selene | Anny | Luis Miguel | Ramón | Pedro | Mauricio | Lorena | Rafael | Anny | ||||||||
Luisa | Selene | Mónica | Luis Miguel | Rolando | Pedro | Mauricio | Lorena | Rafael | Marlon | ||||||||
Anny | Selene | Mónica | Luis Miguel | Rolando | Pedro | Mauricio | Lorena | Luisa | Rolando | ||||||||
Rafael | Selene | Luis Miguel | Pedro | Pedro | Mauricio | Lorena | Anny | Marlon | |||||||||
Lorena | Patricia | Catalina | Rosina | Catalina | Luis Miguel | Ramón | Luisa | Luisa | Luisa | Rolando | |||||||
Mauricio | Selene | Mónica | Luis Miguel | Marlon | Marlon | Marlon | Rolando | ||||||||||
Pedro | Patricia | Goyo | Rosina | Catalina | Luis Miguel | Ramón | Luisa | Rolando | |||||||||
Ramón | Selene | Mónica | Luis Miguel | Rolando | Rolando | ||||||||||||
Luis Miguel | Goyo | Goyo | Catalina | Catalina | Anny | Pedro | |||||||||||
Mónica | Selene | Anny | |||||||||||||||
Catalina | Patricia | Goyo | Rolando | Pedro | |||||||||||||
Rosina | Patricia | Goyo | Luis Miguel | ||||||||||||||
Selene | Anny | ||||||||||||||||
Goyo | Patricia | Catalina | |||||||||||||||
Patricia | Rosina |
1 Marlon won the immunity challenge and the right to be part of the Final Two. He also had to choose one of the remaining contestants to be eliminated. He chose Anny to be voted out.
2 Rolando and Luisa had to compete in another challenge in order to be part of the Final Two. Rolando won the challenge, so Luisa was eliminated.
Elimination notes
- Ledys Patricia - Ledys Patricia found difficulties adapting to the island. She constantly said she missed her children and isolated herself from the rest of the tribe. She didn't get along with Rosina and didn't do well during the Immunity Challenge in which she got a panic attack because the challenge was set in the sea. All those things targeted Ledys Patricia as the weakest player so she was eliminated. (voted out 6-1-1)
- Jorge "Goyo" - Reading the hints of the Immunity Challenge message (IC), tribes realized it was a physical challenge so strength was required. Rosina wanted to do this challenge but Goyo disagreed pointing out it wasn't a challenge for her. Rosina did not take Goyo's point well so they had an argument. At the end, Luis Miguel, appearing as the leader of the Atcha tribe decided Rosina had the right to be part of the Challenge. However, it turned out to be a bad idea as Rosina fell down during the challenge and had to be evacuated by the medical team. Atcha lost the IC again. Back at the camp, Rosina was welcomed by everybody but Goyo, Goyo's attitude was taken by his partners as a discourtesy and he was viewed as a troublemaker by some tribe members. On the other hand, Catalina was viewed as the person that did the less for the tribe so some people considered it was time to her to go. At the end, Goyo was narrowly eliminated (voted out 4-3)
- Selene - After losing three challenges in a row, Atcha tribe began to do well. Conflicts arose in the Ukup camp as Selene clashed with Ramón and other tribemates. Selene stated she got enough of the game and she wanted to go so she was the first Ukup eliminated. After votes were cast, she was allowed to say goodbye to their partners. The farewell speech was kept in the rest of the season. (voted out 7-1)
- Rosina - During the IC, Atchas took the advantage at first. However, Lorena got stuck trying to climb a rope ladder giving Monica a chance to take advantage to the Ukup tribe winning immunity for the third time. Back at the camp, opinions about who should go home were divided. At the end, Rosina was eliminated because she hadn't recovered from her falling during the second IC and she had still some injuries. (voted out 3-1-1-1)
- Catalina - Atchas were demoralized due to continuous challenge losing. Pedro and Rolando questioned Luis Miguel's leadership since he had become too bossy and they felt he was causing friction within the tribe. At the RC, Luis Miguel and Monica were given the chance to have a dinner outside the camps and Luis Miguel described his tribemates as lazy people to Monica. During the IC, Atcha internal tension was evident as the tribe did it terrible during the challenge and was defeated by the powerful Ukup tribe with a huge advantage. Back at the camp, Ukups were informed they had to send one of their members to the other camp, that person would be given the immunity during next TC, Rafael was sent to the Atcha camp while the Atchas were in Tribal Council (TC). At TC, Catalina was still viewed as the weakest person in the tribe so she was eliminated unanimously. Before she left, Catalina was asked to choose a person to be sent to the Ukup camp, this person would have immunity until the merge, she chose Luis Miguel. (voted out 4-1)
- Mónica - Tension around the Atcha camp disappeared as Luis Miguel was sent to the Ukup tribe. Atchas won both RC and IC. Days before, Anny had been complaining and saying she wanted to go home. However, knowing they were facing a TC soon, she cried and regretted all comments she made before and stated she wanted to stay. Everybody took her point but Marlon and Monica. Ukups considered eliminating Luisa because she had been ill but she also stated it wasn't her time to go. At the end, Monica, who was the strongest woman in the game, was surprisingly eliminated in a tight voting. (voted out 4-3)
- Luis Miguel - Tribes were merged into the new Korgi ("gannet") tribe. After the merge, former Ukup members Ramón, Luisa, Rafael, Anny and Marlon formed an alliance and they agreed to vote out the Atcha members in the next four Tribal Councils. The Ukup alliance targeted Luis Miguel, seeing him as a strong rival. Atcha members were informed that Luis Miguel had been speaking badly about them during the days he was in the Ukup tribe. Luis Miguel was considered manipulative and deceitful so he was eliminated unanimously by new Korgi tribe. (voted out 9-1)
- Ramón - Atchas realized they were going to be eliminated one by one and there was nothing they could do about it. Rolando didn't get along with Luisa so he was targeted by women of the Ukup alliance as the next person to go. However, Ramón made a huge mistake by stealing some cookies from the production team. Later on, he confessed his mistake and apologized. Questions during the TC were whether Ramón deserved to stay or should be eliminated. Atchas took this opportunity to get rid of Ramon. Marlon also voted against Ramón pointing out he (Marlon) didn't like cheating and that, if he were given the chance to write his name down his vote he would do it without hesitation. Rafael voted out against Pedro because he viewed Pedro as a bigger threat than Rolando; Mauricio voted against Marlon because he felt Marlon didn't deserve to win the Robinson. At the end, Ramon was eliminated in the most polemic and dramatic TC so far. (voted out 4-3-1-1)
- Pedro Luis - Ramón's departure was a fissure to the Ukup alliance. However, the remaining alliance stayed together. Pedro was viewed as the smartest player of former Atchas and his charm made Ukups nervous. He didn't have problems with the them as did Rolando so Pedro was viewed as a strong competitor to win the game. Ukups decided to eliminate him before he became a major threat. Atchas viewed Luisa as being too lazy around camp so they targeted her. However, because Ukups were majority, Pedro was the next person to go home. (voted out 4-3-1)
- Mauricio - Mauricio openly showed his disagreement to the other Ukups for having voted out Pedro. He thought the Final Two should be the people who, by their own merits, got there instead having alliances. Although the Ukup alliance targeted Rolando, he proceeded to win immunity. Mauricio's comments got the other Ukups upset. They also thought he was trying to divide them. Luisa believed Mauricio was the Ukup member who voted out Ramón and Marlon realized it was Mauricio who had been voting against him during the two last Tribal Councils. Then, Mauricio was eliminated by all his former tribemates. (voted out 4-2-1)
- Lorena - Relationships between Rolando and Luisa, Anny and Rafael became increasingly more difficult. Even though Rolando was once again the first Ukup choice to target, he managed himself to win the IC again. Lorena, who had passed unnoticed until that moment, became the target and was eliminated by the Ukup alliance. (voted out 4-2)
- Rafael - Being the only remaining Atcha member, Rolando knew he would be eliminated unless he won next IC. Fortunately for him, during IC, he again saved himself with a crucial immunity win. Since Rolando and Luisa didn't stand each other and, Rolando had been voting for Luisa during last three TC's, Ukups thought Rolando would keep his vote once again. However, Rolando informed the Ukup alliance he would not be voting Luisa out this time. This, worried Ukup members as everyone could be potentially eliminated. Rafael tried, without success, to convince Rolando to form an alliance with him. Ukup alliance broke into two groups: Marlon and Luisa, and, Rafael an Anny. Marlon and Luisa tried to figure out who was the person Rolando would be voting for. Anny, thinking she was the person who would be eliminated, pleaded Rafael to vote for Luisa anyway, he agreed. At tribal council, Rafael did not keep his word and voted for Anny because he thought she was the person majority would be voting out. However, Rafael's thoughts proved to be wrong as Rolando, Marlon and Luisa's votes were for Rafael and he was the 12th person eliminated. (voted out 3-1-1)
- Anny - After 36 days, the Final Four were informed there wouldn't be anymore tribal councils. They would have an IC, the person who won this challenge would be one of the Final Two. Besides, this person should eliminate one of their tribemates immediately. Marlon won this challenge and he decided to eliminate Anny stating it was time for her to go.
- Luisa - Next day, Rolando and Luisa had a final challenge to define who would be the other person in the Final Two. Rolando won the challenge so Luisa was eliminated.
- Marlon - In the finals, he received votes from Luisa and Rafael. Luisa and Rafael considered Marlon had been friendly during the whole game. However, he was also considered to be two-faced since he eliminated various of his allies while playing the game.
- Rolando - Even though Rolando was viewed by the Ukups as a difficult person to deal with, he was also seen as an independent and honest person who did not lied and did not hid what he thought during the game. He also managed himself to stay in the game and fought back from a minority tribe and became the Robinson without backstabbing anyone. Besides receiving the two votes from his unconditional friends, Pedro and Lorena; Rolando also received votes from Mauricio, Anny and Ramón.
Season 2: Expedición Róbinson: el desafío
Expedición Róbinson succeeded and became a hit in the Colombian audience. Caracol TV released a second season the next year, 2002. This time, the show format was changed extensively for the production of numerous 30 minute episodes. Episodes were broadcast from Sunday to Friday, and did not necessarily end with a Tribal Council elimination. Most of elimination episodes happened on Sundays.
This season was called Expedición Robinson: el desafío (desafío means challenge in English) and the chosen location to set the show was Los Haitises National Park, Dominican Republic. Challenges were more difficult than previous season and the contestants were not given any initial supplies, including food, water or matches. Both camps were given merely a water well and a machete, conditions were also extreme because camps were almost completely surrounded by mangroves and it was common both camps were invaded by mosquitos at the sunset.
The price was elevated 225 million Colombian pesos. Contestants were divided into two initial tribes: Mucaro and Kahaya, these Taíno words mean "owl" and "shark", respectively.[5] Mucaro team was represented by red color and Kahaya team was represented by green color.
The show was won by Cristobal Echevarría. He was part of the Mucaro tribe, he made a powerful alliance at the tribal swap. This alliance was known as the Paisa alliance, since all alliance members came from that region of the Country. He won the 225 million pesos price. Camila Puerta, the runner-up, was rewarded with 20 million pesos and an expedition to Australia.
Participants[6]
Contestant | Original Tribe | Switched Tribe | Merged Tribe | Finish | Total votes |
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Pilar Meira 34, Cartagena |
Kahaya | 1st Voted Out Day 3 |
5 | ||
César Augusto Cruz 42, Bogotá |
Kahaya | 2nd Voted Out Day 6 |
9 | ||
Reyna Escobar 51, Manizales |
Mucaro | 3rd Voted Out Day 9 |
7 | ||
Diana Márquez 20, Cali |
Mucaro | Kahaya | 4th Voted Out Day 12 |
6 | |
Jean Pierre Mandonnet 37, Barranquilla |
Mucaro | Mucaro | 5th Voted Out Day 15 |
4 | |
Juliana Pozzo 26, Bucaramanga |
Kahaya | Mucaro | 6th Voted Out Day 18 |
5 | |
Ronald René Robles 23, Santa Marta |
Kahaya | Kahaya | Yabisi | 7th Voted Out Day 21 |
5 |
Iván Darío Correa 37, Medellín |
Kahaya | Mucaro | 8th Voted Out 1st Jury Member Day 24 |
8 | |
Diana Marcela Restrepo 20, Pensilvania, Caldas |
Kahaya | Mucaro | 9th Voted Out 2nd Jury Member Day 27 |
7 | |
Juan Gabriel León 19, Cali |
Kahaya | Mucaro | 10th Voted Out 3rd Jury Member Day 30 |
9 | |
Maria Carolina Lizcano 26, Bogotá |
Mucaro | Kahaya | 11th Voted Out 4th Jury Member Day 33 |
7 | |
Jimena Urueña 21, Bogotá |
Kahaya | Kahaya | 12th Voted Out 5th Jury Member Day 36 |
6 | |
Danilo García 32, Bogotá |
Mucaro | Kahaya | 13th Voted Out 6th Jury Member Day 37 |
3 | |
Pedro José Vera 19, Cácota |
Mucaro | Kahaya | 14th Voted Out 7th Jury Member Day 38 |
2 | |
Camila Puerta 20, Medellín |
Mucaro | Mucaro | Runner-Up Day 39 |
4 | |
Cristóbal Echevarría 27, Medellín |
Mucaro | Mucaro | Sole Survivor Day 39 |
5 | |
Voting history
Original Tribes | Switched Tribes | Merged Tribe | |||||||||||||||
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Episode #: | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | ||||
Eliminated: | Pilar 5/8 votes |
César 6/7 votes |
Reyna 7/8 votes |
Diana 5/6 votes |
Jean Pierre 4/7 votes |
Juliana 5/6 votes |
Ronald 5/10 votes1 |
Iván 5/9 Votes |
Diana Marcela 5/8 votes |
Juan Gabriel 4/7 votes |
Carolina 3/6 votes |
Jimena 3/5 votes |
Danilo 3/4 votes |
Pedro 1 vote |
Camila 1/7 votes |
Cristóbal 6/7 votes | |
Voter | Vote | ||||||||||||||||
Cristóbal | Reyna | Jean Pierre | Juliana | Ronald | Carolina | Diana Marcela | Carolina | Carolina | Jimena | Danilo | Pedro | Jury Vote | |||||
Camila | Reyna | Jean Pierre | Juliana | Ronald | Carolina | Diana Marcela | Juan Gabriel | Carolina | Jimena | Danilo | |||||||
Pedro | Reyna | Diana | Juan Gabriel | Iván | Diana Marcela | Juan Gabriel | Jimena | Jimena | Danilo | Cristóbal | |||||||
Danilo | Reyna | Diana | Juan Gabriel | Jimena | Diana Marcela | Juan Gabriel | Carolina | Cristóbal | Camila | Cristóbal | |||||||
Jimena | Pilar | César | Diana | Juan Gabriel | Iván | Cristóbal | Juan Gabriel | Camila | Cristóbal | Cristóbal | |||||||
Carolina | Reyna | Diana | Juan Gabriel | Iván | Danilo | Camila | Camila | Cristóbal | |||||||||
Juan Gabriel | Pilar | César | Iván | Juliana | Ronald | Iván | Diana Marcela | Cristóbal | Camila | ||||||||
Diana Marcela | Pilar | César | Jean Pierre | Juliana | Ronald | Iván | Pedro | Cristóbal | |||||||||
Iván | Pilar | César | Jean Pierre | Juliana | Ronald | Carolina | Cristóbal | ||||||||||
Ronald | César | César | Diana | Juan Gabriel | |||||||||||||
Juliana | César | César | Iván | Diana Marcela | |||||||||||||
Jean Pierre | Reyna | Iván | |||||||||||||||
Diana | Reyna | Jimena | |||||||||||||||
Reyna | Diana | ||||||||||||||||
César | Pilar | Diana Marcela | |||||||||||||||
Pilar | César |
1 The vote was initially tied 5-5 between Ronald and Juan Gabriel, but after a revote, Pedro changed his vote so Ronald was eliminated.
Elimination notes
- Pilar - Pilar was well liked among the Kahaya tribe. She got along with everybody and was very friendly. However, she got very ill during the first night in the island. Her illness detracted strongly from her contribution to the group and she was eliminated. (voted out 5-3)
- César - Kahaya tribe found a tuberous root shrub near the camp shelter. They decided to collect some tubers to cook and eat them. However, it wasn't good idea at all as many tribe members became intoxicated, especially Diana Marcela. This weakened the tribe and they lost IC for the second time. César had been viewed as being too lazy around camp so they decided to vote him out and to keep an ill member hoping she would get better later. (voted out 6-1)
- Reyna - Reyna was a loner at Mucaro Camp. She wasn't liked by most of the tribe men who labelled her as a weak person. She wasn't well treated by Jean Pierre and Pedro either. When Mucaro lost its first IC, Reyna was eliminated unanimously. (voted out 7-1)
- Diana - A tribal swap, mixed things up. Ivan, Diana Marcela, Juan Gabriel and Juliana were traded to Mucaro; Carolina, Pedro, Danilo and Diana became part of Kahaya. Former Mucaro members found difficulties trying to adapt themselves at their new tribe camp. Furthermore, food was scarcing so Jimena decided to cook the same tuber that had former Kahayas fallen ill before. The result was exactly the same, new Kahaya members became intoxicated, specially Carolina. When Carolina found out it had happened before, she got very angry, thinking it was Jimena and Ronald's plan in order to intentionally weaken the former Mucaros and get rid of one of them. However, at tribal council, Jimena and Ronald talked about how glad they were about having new tribe mates so the new Kahayas turned on Diana as she was the weakest member of the tribe. (voted out 5-1)
- Jean Pierre - Things at Kahaya camp got better and Jimena and Carolima became good friends. On the other hand, frictions and tensions appeared at Mucaro camp. The tribe swap had taken away Jean Pierre's allies and had brought a strong competition to him. Cristobal and Camila got along with Iván and Diana Marcela as they all were from the same Colombian region so they made a very strong alliance. Things weren't good between women either and Juliana and Diana Marcela began having constant arguments. Jean Pierre's cocky attitude and intentions to get rid of Iván, the strongest member of new Mucaro tribe, angered Cristobal and Camila so he was eliminated. In retaliation for being eliminated, Jean Pierre took the tribe snorkel, diving mask and some fishing devices with him. (voted out 4-3)
- Juliana - Juliana got isolated at the Mucaro tribe as frictions with Diana Marcela and Camila became more frequent. Being viewed as a very conflictive person, Juliana was unanimously eliminated. (voted out 5-1)
- Ronald - Tribes were merged into the new Yabisi (tree) tribe. It was evident both former tribes had made their own alliances so neither of them were willing to lose any member. At tribal council there was a tie between Ronald and Juan Gabriel, each one receiving 5 votes against them. Contestants were asked to vote again. This time, Pedro decided to change his vote as he wanted all original Mucaro members (Pedro, Danilo, Cristobal, Camila and Carolina) to make it to the Final 5 and he had been contemplaiting the possibility of getting rid of Ronald days before. Ronald was narrowly eliminated. (voted out 5-5)
- Iván -