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[edit] Jack

That sounds pretty reasonable to me, since too much backstory in the appearances section can read like a biography, and the exposition-heavy second series is making that section look bloated. How would you put it, something like Jack's backstory is developed through exposition and flashback... "Adam" reveals that Jack... in "Fragments", Jack does such and such. The thing is, didn't we try something similar a while back and Bignole said it was unnecessary? This seems better, but it would be nice if we could get some OOU info on Jack's past, why they decided to tell the story the way they did. Maybe TW Declassified?  Paul  730 22:56, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it sounds like a good plan. What did you make of Saturday's Doctor Who, by the way?  Paul  730 23:22, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I was a bit confused by the order the info appears in, wasn't sure whether it was supposed to be in-universe or out-of-universe because it seems to flip about a bit, it goes from the Time Agency to his childhood to his post-Torchwood history. Maybe we could tighten that up unless there's a specific reason you ordered it like that. Otherwise it looks good, I'd put it in the article.  Paul  730 12:13, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Edit Summary in Big Brother 9 (U.S.)

Hi, this just kinda confused me a bit "if you're going to write it in a way that presumes it's not genuine, you could at least spell it correctly", exactly what did you mean by that? ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 21:14, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Whedon

OMG, those covers are pretty damn cool. I'm loving Gunther centre stage! (Aw, look at his little whiskers!) And Drusilla?? Oh the possibilies, I've already heard theories that she was the vampire who escapes the Twilight spell to erase magic, leading to her repopulating the vampires? I wanted Harmony to be that vampire - since she has a habit of escaping and it would be hilarious to have her as a villain in Fray having not matured at all in 200 years. I've always wanted closure for Drusilla though, her disappearance from both shows wasn't good enough. I'm glad Harth is in it again. Not too excited about Angel as usual, the Fredllyria stuff seems interesting but... meh? Someone was commenting that Fred has filled out a little in her absence... I hate when they do that to characters. Blindfold and Pixie are currently being transformed in double-D hookers over in X-Men, it's disgusting. I'm not opposed to T&A in general, but Pixie??? She's like fourteen??!!! >:( It doesn't surpise me that Acker is in Dollhouse, Whedon does love to re-use actors, the entire cast of Firefly were villains in the Buffyverse at some point.  Paul  730 01:28, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

So what do you make of the latest developments in Buffy and Angel? The last panel of Buffy was brilliantly brutal.  Paul  730 21:47, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Come on, more details than just "really good". :P What did you make of Renee's apparent death, I know you were fond of her? I really expected her to be Twilight's mole so that was surprising. I desperately hope they don't de-activate the Slayers, I think that would just shit all over the girl power theme of the series and I doubt Whedon would do that. I was very surprised, because I loathed the character in the TV series, to think that Kate's brief return has been the best moment of AfF so far. They managed to give her the sendoff she never really got in the show, develop the character by showing how far she's come since the time she couldn't accept the reality of demons, furthering Connor's character arc via her advice, and reinforcing the entire theme of the series (keep fighting even though it's ultimately futile). It was brilliant, please take note Gwen.  Paul  730 12:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm sure Kate died, I think that was the point. It felt like a nod to "Not Fade Away" in that sense. I've seen some people speculating that she'll be back as part of the Connor and the Random Recurring Characters gang but I doubt it. There's nowhere else for the character to go and it would ruin the poignancy of her one-shot story. Yeah, the Scoobs' attack on that vamp was cool, I loved the power walk at the end. I love the panel with Drac's dramatic entrance, and Xander carrying all his bags in the background. I love their relationship, but that said, I hope it doesn't get any heavier than just comic relief. God knows we need a token hetero in the cast. ;)

I actually knew it was your birthday today (you have a userbox somewhere) but it slipped my mind. Happy birthday. A friend and I went out to a gay bar for my 18th but it was pretty crap. Lots of dirty old men looking to pull. :| Hope your night is better. How have you been enjoying DW, now that you mention it? I'm offically sick of Martha, she's done nothing but get kidnapped lately, she needs a new schikt (sp?).  Paul  730 13:12, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Donna's thoroughly impressing me every week, although I loved her to begin with. I find her much more sympathetic and engaging than any other companion, I thought her scenes where she failed to save the little boy from the volcano, and with the Ood circle, really moving. I've read reviews claiming she's the most well-rounded companion of the entire series, which is great. Jenny was okay, I liked her in the episode but have no strong opinion of her. More appearances and a comic book spin-off would be perfectly acceptable in my eyes. Martha has just done nothing impressive since her initial return in Torchwood. Davis has a tendancy to bing back characters and then make them stand in the background of an episode with has nothing to do with them. (Jack!!!)

Forgot to reply to part of your previous comment: the Slayer thing in Angel... it was a lot like the Fredllyria thing in that it was an intended dramatic relevation which felt flat because I didn't fully understand it. My friend thought that Slayers were bursting in to save George, while I thought George was reading the vamp's memories of fighting Slayers. It wasn't clear enough IMO. With the Fred thing, because we already know Illyria can take her form, it wouldn't even have occurred to me that that was actually Fred if the issue hadn't been hyped so much.

Where'd you see the Dollhouse trailer?  Paul  730 13:33, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

It's been removed, I'll just have to catch it later. Never mind, I can be patient (still haven't seen Sarah Connor yet!!) Aren't you a member of SlayAlive as well? I do a lot of lurking over there and I'm sure I've seen you commenting once or twice. I'm reluctant to join a Buffy forum because I'd feel obligated to argue against all the criticism and it would just put me in a bad mood. Whedonesque is good, I've seen quite a few intelligent debates over there.  Paul  730 14:19, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

That Dollhouse link was dead for a little while but it's working now. The show looks interesting, I'll definitely give it a chance. By the way, looking through your contributions, Electra features a lesbian kiss in it IIRC, so that might be why someone classed it as LGBT, not because "it's gay".  Paul  730 21:44, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jenny (Doctor Who)

Please do not redirect an article without first bringing up in Discussion page. --Human.v2.0 (talk) 15:43, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Please do not allow editors to dissuade you to from being a confident editor. The worst thing that can possibly happen is that someone will have to hit "undo". This is a better fate than being bogged down in endless discussion.

Oh, and the answer to your totally unrelated question is "yes", although such a confirmation on-wiki isn't good reference material. I'm pretty sure IMDb is already cited as a source.

Could I trouble you to add a valid e-mail address to your account?

Bonus points if you remember your actual, original question.

—Adrian Lamo ·· 2008-05-21 20:21Z

[edit] Billie Joe Armstrong

Hey. I've been un-vandalizing that article for months now. Is it possible to get it locked? And also, since you're on my side (the true one), could you add the bisexual reference? Thanks.

I'm glad some of his fans are open-minded. But maybe they're 14-year-old girls whose parents didn't raise them right. Or maybe they're 14-year-old girls who think there's less chance he'll marry them if he's bi. I'm joking, but they are pretty nasty people.

Thanks again.Sillycucumber (talk) 07:59, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Billie Joe

exactl what i said to sillycucumber, when was the last time i did anything like that? a while ago.your warning was unnecessary. --Greenday21 (talk) 15:16, 24 May 2008 (UTC)Greenday21

[edit] Buffy S8 Thanks

Thanks for taking the initiative to expand and improve the cast reaction section I started. Jclemens (talk) 14:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jack

I prefer the comic book image, but I'm not sure about the source... images aren't really my area of expertise. The rationale could also be questioned; does it have any specific critical commentary beyond "here's an image of him in the comic"? You could say the same about the images of Jason Voorhees in comics as well I suppose. I'd say upload it, and if there's any opposition during the FAR then we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Sorry the Jack article has been hanging in limbo for so long by the way, I know I promised to submit it months ago. I've been so busy in real life lately that my Wikipedia activity has suffered a lot.

Yes, I saw the preview and amazing is the word I used as well. It felt so alive, like watching an episode of the show, what with the emotion of Renee's death and the adrenaline of the battle. Dracula vamping out, "he's not alone"... oh my god! Have you seen the uninked artwork that were posted on Whedonesque? Shocking stuff if it's what it looked like.  Paul  730 14:55, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

How did your birthday go? Isn't Brighton a total party town? I do enjoy clubbing but I very rarely do because I'm a bit of a loner; all my friends belong to different social groups and I don't really belong to one at all. I go on the odd work night out, which can be interesting, given some of the oddballs I work with.  Paul  730 15:26, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

My knowledge of Brighton stems almost totally from Sugar Rush. Dunno, Glasgow apparently has a good club scene but like I said I'm not too familar with it, and the clubs I have been to weren't that great. I keep planning to go to Polo Lounge (apparently it's a cool gay bar) but it hasn't happened yet. Oh well... Glad you had a good time.  Paul  730 15:44, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cassandra Cain

What is your reason for moving the article back to Batgirl (Cassandra Cain)? I mean it's titled Dick Grayson, not Robin (Dick Grayson), or Stephanie Brown not at Robin (Stephanie Brown). hbdragon88 (talk) 03:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Consensus on reasoning for LGBT Project Articles

A new discussion you may be interested in:Consensus on reasoning for LGBT Project Articles. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 07:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Buffy #15

How have you read it? I thought new comics didn't come out in Britain until Thursday... they don't up here in Glasgow anyway. Did you read it online or something? I'm trying my hardest to remain spoiler free until tomorrow, does the "big twist which blows #12 out of the water" live up to expections? As for Buffy's sexuality... I'm not really looking for a confirmation either way to be honest. I'm of the belief that human sexuality defies definition... it depends on the inidividual and labels don't always reflect how a person feels or acts. Buffy and Willow are both technically bisexual, but lean on the hetereo/homo sides of the spectrum, respectively. Besides, it would be boring if Joss just came down on one specific side of the fence, what would the fans argue about? :P  Paul  730 23:13, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I've seen previews and Willow's relationship with the snake woman (Vesuki or something?) is very intriquing. So people are speculating that Vesuki is the creepy doll thing on that "Grave" temple? That would be some great continuity. Lol, how is Buffy "rad"?  :P My friend and I were speculating that Twilight might be future Xander, and to stop him, Buffy must kill present Xander. That sounds great - very "Buffy" - to me, but I've always been firmly against the idea of killing Willow or Xander. The Buffy trinity are a perfect chemical formula, you break that formula and the series dies IMO. I take it Buffy and Satsu further their relationship in some way, judging from your edits here?  Paul  730 23:35, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Lol, doesn't "sweet old Dracula" get his head chopped off by Xander? I was really shocked when I saw that and then I remembered Dracula can't be killed (or can he?????). You've got me all excited I must admit. The idea of Buffy being forced to kill the ones she loves has been a recurring element in show and Xander of all people would be heartbreaking. Plus the writers have been gunning for Xander for years - I heard rumours that Xander was going to be Glory instead of Ben in season 5, and that Giles would have murdered Xander in "The Gift". That would have been horrific. Then he was going to die in "Dirty Girls" and "Chosen"... he's dodged a lot of bullets over the years.  Paul  730 23:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Good luck. What is it?  Paul  730 23:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Grr, I hate when that happens. I hate when you write someone a message and it doesn't save or whatever, so you have to write it again. The "WatG" conclusion was really great, I thought. MechaDawn has to be the most ridiculous, jump-the-shark idea ever and yet I still loved her. What did you make of Angel? Gunn's story was pretty good I thought, I liked how it literally showed how Angel's mission causes him to neglect the ones he loves. The civillian story just sucked, I didn't get it at all, what a waste of time. I continue to be indifferent to Gwen "I'm not a Rogue rip-off, honest" Raiden but her story was allright.  Paul  730 05:24, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] LGBT WikiProject Newsletter

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[edit] Forest of the Dead edits

You might want to examine those citations a tad more closely, bud. The first citation that you reinstated (the Fact File, is little more than a blog, and the citation does not connect to Moffat's statements). The second citation that you reinstated comes from the same blog and refers to the series of books by Paul Cornell and makes the comaprison to River Song. I would suggest that perhaps you were snookered into this edit, and might wish to self-revert. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 04:01, 13 June 2008 (UTC)