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[edit] Lovcenac

Hi - Thanks for adding the link to the news article - it's not often that Lovcenac is in the news. Could you just add a little bit in English as to what it's about - from what I understand it's about an ethnic Montenegrin women from Lovcenac, but my (let's call it) Yugoslavian's pretty limited. Also, do you know anything about the Montegrins' desire to build a Montenegrin Orthodox Church? See [1]. Thanks Adam Mathias 04:51, 5 February 2006 (UTC) No Comment!!!Boris from Lovcenac.

[edit] Bosnian Genocide

Because it had been a week and I felt like testing the waters would be ok. And 0 posts since I unprotected it. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 21:15, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

I never unprotect blindly. If it got slammed with edits immediately I'd see where you are coming from, but quiet so far. It's not as if we cannot reprotect if need be. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 21:26, 8 February 2006 (UTC)i naravno RAC ALEKSANDAR KRALJ LOVCENCA

[edit] Request for edit summary

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[edit] Categorization

Hi Zvonko, I noticed you added Category:Serbian writers to Aleksa Šantić, who was already categorized into Category:Serbian poets. Please see WP:Categorization#Guidelines, esp. no. 3. In other words, don't duplicate categorization in both a category and a subcategory. When in doubt, place the entry in a "higher-level" category, but don't duplicate. Since Šantić was primarily a poet, he should go only to "poets" category.

Now, I admit the Category:Serbian writers is in disorder, but please don't add to the confusion :-). Also, as above, please use some more edit summaries – a mere "cat" would have pointed me that you changed a category rather than external links as indicated. See Wikipedia:Edit summary legend.

Regards & keep up on good work, Duja 14:00, 20 February 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Removed Image

I know. However the way it was being used was not consistant with the claim of fair use.Geni 05:50, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Read the tag.Geni 06:21, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
A lot of those other scanned pages are copyvios as well and will be delt with. The problem is that the article does not comment on the specific image and issue.Geni 08:28, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
No it has to reference that specific photo So along the lines of; photo/ front page X is considered a claissic example etc etc. Of course this could be tricky to do but fiar use isn't meant to be easy.Geni 08:56, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Malo sam promenio clanak o Dobrici Cosicu

pa ako mozes da ne brises ponovo ono sto sam dopisao(ako ti ni prvi put nisi to radio,onda ti se izvinjavam)Dzoni 14:49, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Color correction

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Thank you Avala 12:48, 14 May 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] User:Afrika paprika and Dado Prso

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[edit] Red Star Belgrade

Just wondering why you changed it back? Do you oppose using the actual name of the team? It seems UEFA officially uses FK Crvena Zvezda in English. --Lowg 02:26, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

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Also, you have several more images that are missing the necessary source information. Please cite the source and copyright owners, etc. Thanks. Ytny 11:09, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi. In the case of a screenshot from a TV program, the copyright belongs to the broadcaster and you do not qualify as the creator of the image. I will remove the GFDL tag and resore the nsl tag, and you can add the proper source information, i.e copyright owner, day, information about broadcast, etc. Thaks. Ytny 21:20, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Ceca raznatovic 36.jpg

Ok, I'm listening.

As far as #1 of WP:FUC goes, I don't think a "free equivalent is available or could be created that would adequately give the same information" in the sense that I didn't see one or don't have one at my disposal.

"I didn't see one or don't have one at my disposal".. this never implies that one couldn't be created. --Abu Badali 15:07, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

As for WP:FU#Counterexamples, it is fairly obvious that the purpose of putting this image isn't merely showing "what this person looks like". The entire turbofolk genre has a very pronounced visual component and this image showing the early look of turbofolk adds a lot to the quality and comprehension of the entire article.Zvonko 04:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

This makes sense. This image seems ok to be used in the Turbo-folk article, but not in Ceca. --Abu Badali 15:07, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Source

So, what should be placed as a source? And while, you're at it why were the other two images taken down in the middle of discussion? The source info may have been removed in the fair use discussion but there was no warning message or anything. Seeing that the source for this image has been listed by you as "missing", am I going to find it suddenly taken down too. Zvonko 01:30, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

As I explained in the edit summary, use the newspaper name and publication date. But if the newspaper is not this image's copyright holder, it must contain information on who is. But in this case, the tag is wrong and must be changed. --Abu Badali 01:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] About Otpor, and the country's involvement

I know what you're saying, and you're not wrong. Montenegro under the DPS was not very active in the FR Yugoslavia; they were concentrating on building their own walls and finding their way alone. The actions were within Serbia and remain a Serbian phenomenon. The problem is that ever since the creating of the FRY, the national name of the country until its final day in SCG was Serbia half the time and the national name for the other half. When I attended the Anti-NATO protest in March 1999 in London, the thousands of locals were chanting "Sr-bi-ja...Sr-bi-ja", then a few minutes later; you'd hear "Ju - Go - Slavija, Ju - Go - Slavija". Clearly people were confused and could not distinguish that the two entities were in direct conflict with each other, where-by at a national level, you can be one, or the other. Be that as it may, that's how it was. Now my purpose for adding terms such as "the federation", "Yugoslav", "the national" etc. on this page as with all others: the basis for the popular dissidency was dissatisfaction with administration from the highest level. Millions felt that the key to a good future is a good relationship with the western states, and only the central government stood between the citizens and the rest of the western world. And ultimately, it was the Yugoslav presidency which was ousted, and legally, it did have powers over Montenegro, and Montenegrins in turn were elligible to contribute to running the republic whether these privileges were taken or not. I think it would be a good idea if one of us revise the page from top to bottom and restore Serbia in about half of the slots (in a way that people know); or introduce a new section explaining what we both know (this as I have written it). I just feel that to continue using "Serb, Serb, Serb" is sloppy and unofficial. Do you see what I'm suggesting? Evlekis 07:54, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Božidar (Boki) Milošević

Zvonko, I think that we should use full names of the persons we are writing about. For example, Milenko Stefanović, also a clarinetist, is better known as Mima Stefanović; however, article about him has been entitled Milenko Stefanović. I suggest to give this article its previous name - Božidar Milošević. --Andrija 13:21, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Non-free images being disputed by User:BetacommandBot

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[edit] Replaceable fair use Image:Iggy00ve.jpg

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[edit] Image:Zeta_grb_veliki.gif

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[edit] Replaceable fair use Image:Halasp.jpg

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[edit] Image:Iggy00ve.jpg

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[edit] Yugoslav First League, team HSK GRADJANSKI

Hello Zvonko

You in many places have written structures of a team of the winner championship Look years 1926, 1928 and others, the champion team HSK GRADJANSKI [2] Some players at you are missed Look page [3] Check up and add all players Gavrilov Sergey 22:37, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] Replaceable fair use Image:Stadion CrvenaZvezda.jpg

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[edit] Foreigners in Ukraine

In your recent edit on list of foriegn footballers in Ukraine, you merged Kosovars and Albanians together. I don't support Kosovo's independence but put them separate since some users changed the flag icons to Kosovo and those players were born in Serbia. Why don't you want them in a separate category, since those Albanians are trying to call themselves Kosovars? (I don't think it is acknowledging the Kosovan independence but is just showing that those players are rebels that support Kosovan independence, what do you think?) --Shustfan (talk) 20:10, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

That works for me. Thanks for Replying. --Shustfan (talk) 19:47, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Rok mašina" & "Kraljevski apartman"

Zdravo, Zvonko!

Primetio sam da si imena članaka "Rok Mašina" i "Kraljevski Apartman" promenio u "Rok mašina" i "Kraljevski apartman".

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Ovo je omot prvog albuma grupe Rok Mašina. Na omotu se nalazi i njihov logo (ne samo ispisano ime benda, već logo, jer se nalazi i na omotu njihovog drugog albuma Izrod na granici, kao i na omotu singla "Vatra" / "Bilo mi je bolje"). Primetićeš da je slovo "M" jasno napisano velikim slovom. Da ne bih bez potrebe uploadovao neki omot Kraljevskog Apartmana (još ne razmiščjam da počnem rad na člancima o njihovim albumima), mogao bi da posetiš njihov zvaničan sajt: www.kraljevski-apartman.com. Iako je sajt pomalo zastareo, već pri njegovom otvaranju ćeš primetiti da je početno slovo u reči "Apartman" napisano veliko. To je logo Kraljevskog Apartmana, ali kako je logo nastao tek pre par godina, nalazi se samo na omotu albuma Ruka pravde, Best Of Live i DVD-a 10 godina sa vama - Live SKC. Bez obzira na to, na omotu albuma Rocker "Apartman" je napisano sa velikim početnim "A". (Izuzetak su omoti albuma Long Live Rock 'n' Roll i Izgubljen u vremenu, na kojima su sva slova u imenu benda velika.)

Nekim mojim drugovima i meni (a mi smo, kako smo do sada zapazili, najangažovaniji oko članaka koji se tiču srpske rock muzike) smeta što se prema našim rock bendovima često odnosimo sa nekom vrstom nepoštovanja. Jer, ako se imena bendova The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Sex Pistols itd. (zapravo svako dvočlano ili višečlano ime) pišu sa svim velikim početnim slovima (i toje praksa u čitavom svetu!), zašto takav slučaj ne bi bio i sa našim bendovima (a naša rock scena nije nešto što postoji nekoliko godina, složićeš se)? Istina je da se u našoj štampi dvočlana i višečlana imena bendova često pišu malim početnim slovom (to radi čak i Petar Janjatović u svojoj kapitalnoj Ilustrovanoj ex-Yu rock enciklopediji!), mada ja (kao u ostalom i većina ljudi) smatram da je to greška. Čak i kada je ovo pitanje diskutabilno, kao kod, recimo, Riblje Čorbe ili Bijelog Dugmeta, gde su sva slova u logou mala, ili Kerbera i Azre gde su sva slova u logou velika, čini mi se da je u slučaju Rok Mašine i Kraljevskog Apartmana reč samog benda dovoljna, i da bend može najbolje da govori u svoje ime (bar što se njegovog imena tiče).

Dakle, ja bih lako mogao da imena bendova vratim u "Rok Mašina" i u "Kraljevski Apartman" (kako sam ih prvobitno i napisao :)), ali bi ih ti verovatno vratio u "Rok mašina" i "Kraljevski apartman", pa bi ih ja ponovo vratio... I tako bez kraja i konca. Ali ovo prepuštam tebi, i nadam se da ćeš ispraviti svoju grešku.

Pozdrav! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ostalocutanje (talkcontribs) 09:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FRY in Eurovision SC

The election was held as if it was the SFRY that would be represented. Preformers from Slovenia, Croatia and Macedonia had cancelled their appearances but preformers from Bosnia and Herzegovina have not cancelled. In that time 1992 Bosnia and Herzegovina considered it a part of SFRY and I think even had the orriginal name Socialist Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina (like SR Montenegro until 1993).

So the representative has been elected under the red star and competed in the main ESC 1992 without the red star. This means a fact which should be represented in Wikipedia. Yugoslavia despit sanctions competed but this was a preformance for the old SFRY.

PFRY and SFRY are one the same but SFRY/FRY in 1992 is not the FRY after 2000 which stopped claiming that it was the sole successor of SFRY. Before 2000 FRY claimed just that the complete successor for SFRY.

Stop your revertments. Please.

Imbris (talk) 21:54, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Stop your futile attempts of trying to wash away the past of FRY. FRY participated in ESC 1992 with a song that was elected to represent a part of SFRY (B & H, Montenegro, Serbia). Croatia, Macedonia and Slovenia opted not to vote nor to send their representatives to Belgrade. The sittuation around FRY should be separated from the SFRY and also separated from the SCG. -- Imbris (talk) 21:56, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Yugoslavian names at birth

Hi! Sorry to disturb you, I've got a question for you: people born in SFR Yugoslavia's Republics (SR Slovenia, SR Macedonia...I think you were born in the SR Bosnia and Herzegovina) had their names in their ID in original (slovene, macedonian cyrillic, bosnian...) script or in the Serbian one? For example: Josip Katalinski was born as Josip Katalinski (and in the ID or at the register office is written Josip Katalinski), or was he born Јосип Каталински (so the transliteration "Josip Katalinski" is a later adaptation)? Thank you! --necronudist (talk) 18:31, 5 June 2008 (UTC)