Talk:Zords in Power Rangers: Mystic Force

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1 Blatent Vandalism
2 Steedergon
3 It's my article!
4 Firebird and Lion.
5 Again, the pictures
6 Sprite or Fairy
7 Fair use rationale for Image:Sola streak.JPG
8 Fair use rationale for Image:Titanzords.JPG
9 Fair use rationale for Image:Train mode.JPG
10 Mystic mermaid - Trident???

[edit] Blatent Vandalism

Incredible. No more than what? Maybe two days have gone by after this pages creation and it's already being vandalized. Let me first say that if the vandalism was a mistake, It's no biggie.

The names of zords and formations that have not been mentioned on the tv show are mostly speculation, but those that have been featured include all the titan zords, Koragg's catastros zord, the dragon formation, Koragg's megazord form, the titan megazord and the combination of nick and catastros.

I assure anyone who cares enough to edit this page that the information currently listed (when i wrote in this duscussion page) in the article is (in general) correct, and that any future developments in the show will be acknowledged.

In short, summary and closing, please do not change any information on the article page unless that change is based on information from the television program. Otherwise, it might hurt more than help.

Ace Class Shadow 02:03, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Steedergon

Udonna does not control Steedergon. What on earth makes you think this?

67.123.142.85 22:40, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

To answer your question, people are probably basing that belief off of steed's colors. It's not proven, but try not to be so hard on them. Anyway, I'm going to return the "Koragg controls Catastros" part you decided to remove.

Ace Class Shadow 22:52, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Okay. I'll cease being coy. "Steedergon"'s japanese counterpart is the original horse of the red ranger's father. However, The red ranger rode it into battle with koragg and Catastros' japanese counterparts, respectovely. Although it's possible cockpit footage with the white ranger could be filmed, it's more likely Steedergon will serve the red ranger, if it shows up at all.

Bottomline: Let's wait and see what happens. No need to list Mystic Red or Mystic White as Steedergon's Master/Mistress.

Ace Class Shadow 02:45, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Nick/Mystic Red will control "Steedergon" in PRMF. This isn't speculation as almost all zord footage is always Japanese, meaning that they won't shoot new footage (certainlly not of the cockpit), as I doubt Disney has the resources to do that. Jacen Solo 18:24, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] It's my article!

I started this article because there wasn't one previously, no one else had the iniative to do so. If anyone has blatantly vandalized this page, it is Ace Class Shadow. If speculation isn't allowed, then you better go and delete PR Drive Force, and ALL of the rumors which circulate abundantly throughout this site. Do not insult my character and say my user page doesn't do me justice and "sigh". If you disagree with me, use my TALK page, don't just slam me in the edit history. And if I recall, I've had to remove many of your baseless speculations from many DC comics articles. Now "Im sighing now" Qilinmon 01:28, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Wow. Okay. Perhaps i was a bit...offensive, but i don't consider flooding another person's talk page to be the best way to discuss a problem, especially one such as this. For starters, this isn't "Your article". "Please note:

If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit it."

I can appreciate the separating articles spawned from Mystic Force, but i will not acknowledge you as the "owner" or "Master" of this article. Thanks for the base work, but a lot has been done without you to improve "your" article. One of those improvements was the removal of this "Udonna owns Steedergon" ahem "Stuff". Ha. I just realized the irony. Your assertion that this is "your" article is the result of your assumption Udonna owns Steedergon. Do you...like...have control issues or something? No offense.

Anyway, getting to Udonna and "her" horse, you were incorrect. Kai, The japanese red ranger known as "MagiRed" was the only one shown to control or combine with the horse in the non-canon movie. It was his father's and now being cared for by his father's comrades. Furthermore, I think Udonna's counterpart, "MagiMother" wasn't even featured in the movie. MagiRed used the unicorn to fight Koragg's counterpart "Wolzard" and catastros' japanese counterpart "Barikion". MagiRed and the unicorn became giant mecha, combined and faught. If anyone controls it then by your logic of Power Rangers largely copying plots, Steedergon would be Nick's zord, if he appears at all.

Furthermore, Power Rangers is constantly going against the "matching colors/designa" rule. Take Wild Force, Ninja Storm (Power Spheres) or Dino Thunder.

And as for other articles, I cannot speak for them, but thanks for bring "Drive Force" to my attention. I do, however, think you're mistaken in regard to DC Comics articles, but i never claim to perfect. In fact, I reserve the right to mess up. If i have, bring it to my attention. Although, since my edits are usually minor and i would never personally add speculation to an article, it's likely you maybe be confusing me with someone else. Ace Class Shadow 02:10, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

There were a lot of guys with Ace or Shadow in their usernames on the DC comics pages, so it could be a simple mistake on Q's part. I would have been confused too. And I have to admit, when I saw Steedergon on Ebay, I thought it was Udonna's too. So (since I just started Wikipedia) no rumors allowed on Wikipedia, right? Or is it just the unconfirmed rumors? Coronis 02:40, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Uh...huh? Are you being sarcastic/Rhetorical? Well, I'll just answer literally. Speculation is part of Wikipedia. One can't expect experts on a topic to leave their educated guesses at the door. However, this guy is a little...off and so are his assumptions. The last movie only thing/mecha i remember seeing in PR was a quick use of the blizzard megazord as an evil robot. It's highly unlikely that Udonna or any other white ranger will be piloting, riding or, quite frankly, with Steedergon in any way...at all.

I know that was a bit drawn out and redundant, but i want to make this very clear. Color, Marketing and Japanese story aside, all the footage would lead someone to believe it's Nick's horse. More often than not, PR (especially with bruce kalish) base their stories on the footage. Bruce is of the belief that footage dictates story and that there is little room for originality. Originality would be Steedergon working with Udonna. Following footage would be Nick meeting and working with Steedergon in a way similiar his team up with Catastros in episode six. And i repeat, even more like than it being Nick's horse is the possibly of them not using movie footage at all. I believe it's not licensed under the same deal as the japanese episode footage. Ace Class Shadow 03:17, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Cool (I was asking a "Literal" question). Like I said I am new here and I want to follow the guidelines, but I learn best though example (and there are a lot of "examples" here), so any info is helpful to me. So no rumors here. Period. Thanks Ace Class Shadow. Oh, in Magiranger ep. 34, Hikaru brought Saint Kaiser to fight Wolzard and Chimera (one time deal though). Coronis 03:24, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

No! Wait! Don't take me so literally!

I didn't say "no rumors". Just...no easily disproven rumors. Q was trying to represent his opinions as fact. While a more educated guess would contradict his. Rumors aren't neccessarily wrong, just...try to keep the facts in mind.

For example, If someone says "Steedergon is likely the red ranger's horse" that would be an aceeptable rumor, because it's based on facts.

Bottomline: A rumor isn't wrong unless something contradicts it. Ace Class Shadow 03:34, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Firebird and Lion.

Okay, Titanzord wasn't exactly a good term for the Firebird and Lion, but the Rangers do morph into a kind of Titan/Zord in Magiranger (it looks awesome when they do by the way). So I wasn't exactly sure if they were Zords since they were animals, or Titans since the Rangers do become them by means of a spell. And Titan size doens't mean "Titan". Got it:)Coronis 04:19, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Chances are, they'll be classified as completely different, sing the rangers become animals rather than humaniods and they're connected to the legend powers. Kind of like the "Swat Flyers" last year or the many other separate team megazords.

And yes, Titan sized only means similar in size to the titan zords. Although Koragg is "Zordlike" The giant white ranger is more like the giant forms of characters in "Mighty Morphin Power Rangers". Giant grean ranger, specifically Ace Class Shadow 05:14, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Again, the pictures

I'm getting old seeing Sentai pictures in Power Rangers pages. It might be the same, but it's a matter of fact that they're different. The Jetix or ABC logo proves that a screenshot is from PR, and the time in the upper left corner means the screencap belongs to Sentai. I'm taking them out. Cute Dirty Evil Pushie 05:03, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Are u happy now added pics--Dragon Ranger 2.0 15:10, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sprite or Fairy

I just watched an episode (Rock Solid) on DVD and paused it when they were in the cockpit of the Titan Megazord. In the back it shows the names of the titans (admittedly hard to read and mistakable), but there is no "Sprite". It says "Fairy". Bigblawbenjr 18:21, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Thats because the cockpit footage is Super Sentai Footage and in japan MagiPink's zord/majin was the fairy. --71.68.54.47 04:27, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

That makes sense. Thanks. Bigblawbenjr 16:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Sola streak.JPG

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BetacommandBot (talk) 08:22, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Titanzords.JPG

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Train mode.JPG

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[edit] Mystic mermaid - Trident???

I've watched PRMF about 4-5 times now but I can't recall the mystic mermaid having a trident even once. Is it just assumed that the mystic mermaid holds a trident just because the parallel character in Magiranger may have had a trident at some point during the series? Could someone please clarify this? 59.184.135.251 (talk) 09:36, 29 March 2008 (UTC)