User talk:Zompist

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Hello, Zompist, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Welcome on my part too, Mark! --IJzeren Jan 05:59, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
Thank you! Which leads to my first question... do you folks see responses I make here, or do I have to go to your Talk page to respond? --Zompist 06:12, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
Well, we do if we happen to be 'watching' this page. But when you put a message on someone's own talk page, they are always notified with the "you have a new message" box, so this is the best way.--Pharos 06:15, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
Everybody has his own style in doing that. Since I put you on my watchlist, I see it when something has changed on the page (when a person writes something on somebody else's talk page, he will probably look there for an answer). Others will rather write something on the talk page of the person who left a message. Both are possible. The former possibility has my personal preference, because that way one keeps the threads in one part! :) --IJzeren Jan 06:17, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] SpinnWebe has been nominated for AFD again

As a heads-up, SpinnWebe has been nominated for AFD a second time at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SpinnWebe. I strongly encourage you to participate in the discussion. SchuminWeb (Talk) 03:03, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Web history wikiproject

Hey Mark--you and I used to interact on sci.lang a decade ago. Neat that our paths have crossed again. Your web history project idea is a good one. Keep me in mind if you go anywhere with it! · rodii · 23:07, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Created at WikiProject Early Web History. Feel free to modify the project direction as you envision. Let's get to work! KWH 23:20, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
Cool— thanks, Kwh, and I hope our interaction was positive, rodii. :) Zompist 04:00, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
No way, you insufferable oaf. :) · rodii · 04:18, 25 February 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Roca Inca

I noticed that you created the page Inca Roca. I was thinking that it might more properly be called "Roca Inca", since Roca was his name, and he was Roca Capac before he was Roca Inca. Is there a Wikipedian procedure for this type of change? I actually tried to find Roca on the Category:Inca emperors page, which is how I noticed that it was listed under "I". Bejnar 19:22, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

"Inca Roca" is the name he's generally known under, in English and Spanish. Wikipedia prefers customary names, because that's what people are most likely to search for. You can rename a page; however, a better alternative might be to simply create a redirect page for "Roca Inca". Zompist 22:03, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Inca Empire article

Hi, before answering you, let me ak you one thing... where are your manners??? If you are in a bad mood, maybe it would be a better idea for you to relax first and then write somebody any questions or comments you may have. Passing to the article, I'm sorry but I've seen some vandalism made in it, and I do apologize because I didn't read the whole information first before reverted it. Still, if you read that paragraph, you will see that there are some information inside that are not in the introductory paragraph. For example the organization of the Tahuantinsuyo, and the perception of the Inca Empire nowadays. So for me, it would be much better than you, instead of erasing the whole information, edit and insert the information needed in another paragraph. In fact, I do like this article, and of course I'm trying to improve it, bad news is I don't have anough time now to do it. Remember that the fact that you don't understand something, doesn't mean anyone else isn't going to understand too. Again, you can ask first (maybe to the person who wrote it) and I'm pretty sure he or she may will be more than welcome to help you. (By the way, I didn't understand your last quotation, what do you mean?) --Evelyn Zuñiga 22:50, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] ZBB

Why cannot I register at your Bulletin board? You appear to have disallowed all possible user names.

Read the board. There is a topic in NOTA on how to get an account. Zompist 17:37, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dorothy Parker

I'm not trying to discourage your participation. If you own "The Complete New Yorker" and it notes her contribution history, then please feel free to add it to the article along with an appropriate citation. I am working hard to try to bring the article up to Featured article status and improperly or unattributed information may cause the current nomination to fail. So please, don't add it back unless you can properly source it in the article with an inline citation. Thanks. Otto4711 22:47, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Inca Flag

Can you provide english translations for the 2 spanish quotes in the flag section of Inca Empire?Tttom1 04:10, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You've made a friend

You've clearly managed to annoy someone - see the page history of User:Penis here[1]! Giles Bennett (Talk, Contribs) 16:03, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Doesn't ring a bell... I wonder what that's all about. Zompist (talk) 18:44, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Looking at the edit history for your talk page, I suspect the 83.0.0.0 IPs are socks of Wikinger, who did some vandal redirect to Zompist.com. WCKinger is another (now banned, for that little stunt). Giles Bennett (Talk, Contribs) 19:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Your languages are fantastic end especially Wede'i ;-) Congratulations for good job. I'm sorry for having mocked you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.21.67.48 (talk) 19:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Quechua

Hello Zompist.

To begin with, do you have any sources showing that the Incas did not impose Quechua within their empire? As far as my learning on the matter goes, the Incas, like oh so many other conquering civilizations of the planet, imposed their language upon the peoples they conquered. Now, that does not mean they were completely succesful in their attempt, but very few civilizations have been capable to succesfully impose a language over other societies.

Also, just because Aymara was also widespread in Inca territory it does not mean the Incas were not imposing Quechua upon the population. In fact, it could also mean that the Incas imposed both Quechua and Aymara (which I find unlikely, but nonetheless a reasonable conclusion) in the Tawantinsuyu. Bruce Mannheim's literary work further proves my point that even though the Incas tried to impose Quechua into the Tawantinsuyu, the peoples within the empire did not completely "subjugate" to such a language. Nonetheless, that does not deny the fact that the Incas imposed Quechua, their language, upon their empire.

When did I state that "Original Quechua," or "Proto-Quechua," was spoken during the times of the Tawantinsuyu? I recall that I wrote something along the lines that the Quechua of the Incas was the Kingdom of Cusco's version of the "original Quechua." Never did I write that "Proto-Quechua" was still hanging around by that time. In other words, either I erronously expressed the idea in grammatic form, or you've misread what I wrote.

Furthermore, just because certain areas of the Inca empire already spoke their own kind of Quechua, that, yet again, does not mean that the Incas did not impose their Quechua upon these people and other non-Quechua speakers. This can be easily related to the expansion of the Romans, whom imposed their language upon others and even societies that spoke languages similar to Latin.

Next, "Paul's excellent page" does indeed have its nice facts and theories that make much sense. Nonetheless, on matters such as the "Secret Language of the Incas," he only gives hypothesis that are by no means, at least not officially, a fact.

I'll edit the article again, hopefully this time into something that will please your strictness on Quechua. Oh, and finally, if you think you can do a better job than me on this section, please (and with much appreciation) go ahead and edit the thing yourself. Don't just simply erase the whole section because you don't like it; especially since the article needs a language section.--MarshalN20 (talk) 19:46, 26 April 2008 (UTC)