User talk:Zola

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Two links on all of Wikipedia for a site I own that is a legit Big O fan site. There is a private dispute with the owner of paradigm-city.com and it seems that it's spilling out where it doesn't belong and someone just took away the link and claimed "spam". It's been there for more than a year--how is it suddenly "spam"?

Not sure of how to handle this, honestly--could definitely use guidance. spam would be adding my site to every big o related link you have, and I wouldn't do that, only put it in the two places it seemd pertinent as a legit outside link.

• Big O oldid=4744384 has the original link addition. Second one added recently, again, it's pertinent as PCF isn't the only place Megadeus gets discussed. How should I best proceed?

Update: Megadeus has been resolved.

Hello, Steve Caruso here from the Association of Members' Advocates in response to your request for Advocacy. Looking over your talk page, I must ask if this issue been solved or do you still require the assistance of an Advocate? :-) אמר Steve Caruso _(desk/AMA) 16:58, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you Steve. the Megadeus page has been resolved, Ned Scott was very nice. So far the link on the Big O has remained, but given that there is the situation with the other site, my concern is that it keeps disappearing due to partisanship. What I would like advice on is the best way to handle it. Should I simply put it back and report again if it happens too many times? Should I comment about it or just ignore it and put it back? I figured it was wiser to get assistance from you folks before I did anything more because you know, the whole thing is a stupid Internet fight and it doesn't belong here!

[edit] Re: Google Directory

Hi

Yes I'm sorry, the information can be added. I was more concerned that it wasn't really that relevant for a summary, but considering the article has been merged into just the product listings. Feel free to put it back. Once again, sorry about that - only trying to do things for the better. Mambo Jambo 23:11, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Roger the Negotiator episode page

I have never even looked at the episode summary on your page before. I have plagiarised nothing. If you're going to make accusations, prove them. Given that both pages are summaries of the same information, there are bound to be similarities, but nothing was lifted. You think that you're the only one who can write a coherent summary of the episode, or own the exclusive rights to do so? The page has been reverted. I have no desire for conflict with you as we're both fans of The Big O, but please try to be more reasomnable.-CWD 13:52, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Two editors have now looked at this and both have removed the article. Please don't copy from my site. Observe there are no complaints about the other synopses at all and won't be because people wrote their own articles. We have no corner on the synopsis market, anyone can write their own, but expanding on the original is still plagiarism.Zola 16:01, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't give a damn what two people have done. They're both wrong. I did not, repeat DID NOT copy from your page. This is ridiculous. They're both summaries of the same episode, scene by scene. There's no way they're not going to be similar, but I can't find a single line that's the same aside from diologue quotes. I did write my own summary and will continue to do so. -CWD 16:07, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Two Wikipedia editors, who have final say. Just rewrite it yourself in your own words and it's the end of the matter. That an editor did it means they went and checked out my original and agreed, you're being told by Wikipedia staff, not just some random person who happened to wander in off the street.

Only one of them seems to be an admin, from what I can tell. In any case, both removed your copyright violation box. Looks to me like they're steering a neurtal course. I wrote the article in my own words to begin with and I defy you to show proof that I did not. I will not rewrite the article and make it worse just for the sake of making it look more different from your version. This is you word against mine, and I guess we see what kind of fan you really are in that you'd rather have there be no page at all than so much as give my the benefit of the doubt. -CWD 16:43, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You win

Upon further reflection, I've decided this isn't worth the time to me. So you win: There'll be no episode summary from me, nor will there be any others, though I had planned to eventually do the whole series. Maybe you'll take virtual pen in hand to make one? I doubt it. In fact, I won't edit any Big O-related pages. You can have them as your personal feifdom to prosper or rot for all I care, assuming nobody else has the patience to fight with you. I may not edit any wikipedia pages anymore at all. Editing anime pages on Wikipedia is something I do for enjoyment and to contribute to the fan community. There's no enjoyment in a futile struggle to make you see reason, and there's no point in trying to contribute when everything you work for can be wiped out by self-centered bullies in the blink of an eye and you get called a thief and a liar and you just have to take it.

In closing, I will reiterate once more that I copied NOTHING from your episode summary. I had never seen it before. Any similarities between the two can be attributed to the fact that they both cover the same material in the same fashion. We have both a set of eyes and a set of ears to recieve information and brains to process that information and if we're both asked to faithfully recount a certain set of information it's not surprising that we process it the same way. I already know there's no point in trying to convince you of that, though. No matter. I know the truth, my conscience is clear. I have that, and I gain nothing by wasting further time and effort on this struggle. Best of luck to you. -CWD 23:50, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

The reason they removed the copyright violation box was because the matter was handled by deleting the article because they went and looked and saw enough similarity to agree. I've already taken pen in hand, and all the episode synopses can be found at www.savebigo.com, the site you plagiarized from. I actually don't handle Big O at all here--my biggest contribution so far was to expand the "Roger Smith" stub way back in the day. I leave it to the folk who have the time to do a really good job of it, which describes just about all the Big O Content here.

If the best you can do is call me names, it doesn't make your assertion that you did nothing wrong very credible. But I agree, article is gone, case closed. Best of luck to you as well. Zola 02:27, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry, Zola. Maybe once we get all of the episode synopsi written, we can post them here ourselves..... Without the assistance of plagiarists. ....JetBlack...