Talk:Zocchihedron
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I have added some infomration from White Dwarf magazine detailing the results of the test. Mill's test Zocchihedron gave a result of 34 more often than any other, but in the range of 10-90 the distribution was largely fair.
Does anyone have information on the fairness of more recent Zocchihedra?--Azezel 14:33, 18 Jul 2006 (UTC)
Why the quotation marks around "invented"? There's nothing on this page or Lou Zocchi's that seems to justify them. Eurleif 17:46, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- …not a polyhedron [but] more like a ball with 100 flattened planes...
All right, that piques my curiosity. Does the author mean that the Zocchihedron is not a regular polyhedron, or that it also has non-flattened planes like an ordinary die? Or something else altogether? A picture would be interesting…
—Herbee 12:23, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- I wish I had a digital camera to give you a good photo, but here's a quick set of results from Google. Think golfball and you'll be in the right place. Here's Zocchi's patent application- it's got a decent diagram. --Rossumcapek 22:46, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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- Since the above link isn't working for me today, I used a similar patent search to find these patents:
- Patent 6,926,276 Braking system for dice
- Patent 6,926,275 Five sided dice
- Patent D303,553 Spherically shaped game die
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- Would it be appropriate for this article to link directly to these patents?
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- To answer the original question, perhaps the article description should be more like:
- The Zocchihedron has one non-flat surface (the surface of a sphere), and 100 "spots". Each spot is flat and isolated from all its neighboring spots (and so is therefore a circle). Each of the 100 spots is the same size as alll the other spots.
- (The spots look like they are dimpled in concave slightly -- is that just an optical illusion?)
- To answer the original question, perhaps the article description should be more like:
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- Unfortunately, it is not mathematically possible to place 100 points on a sphere perfectly evenly, although one can get pretty close. It *is* possible to place 120 points on a sphere perfectly evenly, making a dice shaped like a disdyakis triacontahedron. Mathpuzzle has [a complete list of all possible Fair Dice with nice pictures]; and [Klaus Æ. Mogensen] has more details on them.
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- --68.0.120.35 17:04, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know where to find the frequency distribution test results?
- I have Mills own distribution chart (from which I took the information I put in the article) - but I do not hold the copyright obviously, so I am unwilling to publish it. Suffice it to say that it was more or less fair in the range between 10 and 90.
--Azezel 11:48, 8 Aug 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Purchasing?
Where can I get one of these?
The internet - I won't advertise any comercial sites, but a web search will yeild several results. --Azezel 11:48, 8 Aug 2006 (UTC)