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"Zo Race - It is considered to be a Tibeto-Burman race".

Zo is not a race. It is an ethinic group. Neither is the term "Tibeto-Burman" a racial category, it is only a linguistic classification scheme.

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[edit] Copyright

Copyrighted text from [1] was removed from this article. Conscious 17:04, 15 July 2006 (UTC) I am a naturalized American, originally from the ethnic group known as Chins in Burma. My people group has been knoown as such around the world especially when the British colonized Burma and adopted Chin to identify my people group without being sensitive to our deep feeling about the word. Even nowadays, some of my people are too naive to accept it as our ethnic identity, and to believe that we are Chins simply because others call us Chins. In fact, we have never called ourselves Chins. Well, if you ask today's young people, they might say we are Chins because they have been familiar with the Burmese word Chin. So-called Chins from the Haka region would accept it without any bad feelings because they say the word Zomi is particularly Tedim, and they do not want to be identified with a Tedim word. They would rather be identified with a Burmese word. Yes, if they like to be called Chins, it is OK for them. But there are others who feel that Chin is like the American "N" word to us. Please do not lump them altogether in either Chin group or Zomi group. It has been politicized and it has become a political word although we the people ought to be identified with our authentic identity. The word Zo is our root word but it means the region where we live. So if we want to identify the people, we are Zomis, the people who live in the Zo region. Zo in our language means hilly or mountainous region. In other words, we are hilltribes.

[edit] Chin merge

If anything "Zo (people)" should be merged into Chin (people), as - at least in the English-speaking world - the latter designation is far more common (cf. Minorities at Risk, Ethnologue).--Jsorens 18:51, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. They are different ethnic groups, location notwithstanding. I would suggest adding the Zo (people) to Burma, but not to eliminate the article altogether or merge with the Chin (people. -unsigned by User:64.148.3.3 (12:01, 21 September 2006)
Though Zo and Chin are related terms, they are not the same. "Chin" was a term used by colonial ethnographers of the Chin Hills (Burma), but the Zo people in Mizoram and Manipur hardly recognize the term. -unsigned by User:143.117.234.65 (18:49, 30 November 2006)

[edit] Zomi merge

The section of Zomi should not be moved to Chin since the Zomi has a broader and inclusive meaning than the Chin which is limited only for the Chin Hills. Zomi would cover the whole area of Chin Hills in Burma, North East in India, Mizoram in India and some parts of Bangladish. The "merge" indicator on the "Zomi" page should be removed. Zomi should still remain. -unsigned by User:Sianpu (07:46, 26 April 2007)

The articles right now are confusing, and since the tag has been up since July of last year, I am going to merge them as splitting them again can be discussed afterwards.--JEF 02:06, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

This article desperately needs cleanup. Merge discussion might be easier to undertake if the article is more organized. At first glance, it seems to be the same as article Zomi. ZueJay (talk) 13:03, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Zomi

[edit] WHAT or WHO is ZOMI?

By Tg. Thang

Zomi = Chin = Kuki = Mizo

"Zomi" is the term by which we call ourselves. We are also known as "Chin" by the outside world. The Bama people call us Chin, which was adopted by the British (whereas the Zomi call the Bama as Kawl].

The Zomi people live in (1) Zomi State (also known as Chin State) in Myanmar (also known as Burma), (2) Mizoram State and Manipur State in India, and (3) in Bangladesh (formerly known as East Pakistan).

"Mizo" and "Zomi" are inchangeable.

The Zomi people were one of the 4 parties signatory to the Panglong Agreement, i.e., (1) Zomi, represented by the Ukpis (Pu Thawng Za Khup, Pu Hlur Hmung, and Pu Kio Mang), (2) Kachin, represented by the Duwas, (3) Shan, represented by the Sawbwas, and (4) Bama, represented by Aung San.

Why we zomi are called "Chin" while we overselves call "Zomi" since time immemorial? It is a shame that we do not try to reason why we are called "Chin". "Zo" has many meanings. But why "Chin" ? Did we have "chin" in our language? Yes! We have " chin ta ei!". It is finished. It is the end. But, however, couldn't it,"Chin", comes from our ancestors' name "Qin"? It is grueling and difficult to prove why or how. For example, why Qin people once who had founded a dynasty could live half-naked in the very last century? Why? Why? We must scrutinize it.

Here,on the other hand, my friends or brothers, those who live in outer Myanmar, forgive me or comtemplate again and again that "Zo" people are from Myanmar in the very start and if we want to study our history, we must remove all of our prejudice and preassumption such as " "Mizo" and "Zomi" are inchangeable" ". If someone writes that kind again, every Zomi people understands clearly that he views the history of "Zomi", the so-called "Chin", with prejudice. Moreover, we must also study Zomi peoples' history by juxtaposing with Myanmar's history because it too belongs us, too.

It is crystal-clear that we will never be able to unmask our history by repititious proclaiming or writing that "Burmese call us "Chin", but we call ourselves" Zomi"".

Thankyou!. Contact me. penglampu@gmail.com

[edit] ZONET

ZONET is a network of Zomis across the world founded in April,2000.

Its mission is to build and promote mutual understanding and trust between the Zomi indigenous peoples who are called by different names such as Chin,Kuki or Lushei, ...etc.


ZONET members can freely post messages and exchange their views/opinions on issues related to Zomi http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zomi/ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shoute (talk • contribs) 18:58, 7 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] External links

I have removed the following external links from the article because they apparently were not used in creating the article, and their value as external links is unclear. If one of these links was used in creating the article, please cross it off this list and put it in the article where it belongs using reference tags. Please keep in mind WP:EL and WP:NOT --SueHay 15:33, 3 May 2007 (UTC)