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[edit] Player Profile?

Would it be possible to add a section describing Zidane's playing style? Or is the article already too long? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wushugene (talk • contribs) 16:08, 31 December 2006 (UTC).

His style? Sure, there is plenty of room to put the word 'brilliant'. Or did you mean describing his his signature "Roulette" move? Ryecatcher773 04:53, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Muslim

Zidane listed as a famous muslim, but does mention it anywhere in the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.26.98.195 (talk) 08:15, 12 March 2007 (UTC).

I think he says somewhere that he's a non-practicing muslim? Wushugene 20:46, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm not aware of any firsthand quote or deed of Zidane that indicates he is Muslim. Until one is referenced in the article he should not be listed as such. He does not practise at all, and his wife and kids are non-Muslims. Karpouzi (talk) 13:59, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
His fourth son's name is a Muslim. --212.76.72.252 (talk) 18:23, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Out of retirement to Los Angeles?

Headline should really be changed, I think, to something like 'Possible comback' or 'Rumoured comebacks'. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.192.143.93 (talk) 22:34, 28 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] #5 shirt at Real

I'm not sure if the paragraph about his #5 shirt (diff) going to Cannavaro has much relevance to this article. It's not like Zidane personally gave the number to Cannavaro. Zidane simply happened to vacate it when he left the club, and as a new arrival, Cannavaro took a number that was available, just as Zidane took a vacant number when he arrived at Real. Unless there's some source stating this is anything more than a coincidence, I'm taking it out. --Ytny (talk) 15:09, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

It is an interesting information. I wasn't trying to stress that Zidane personally gave the number to Cannavaro. It will be a good trivia material.Madan | Talk 14:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 3 World Cup finales, not 2

Hi, Zidane particpated in 3 world cup finals. In 2002, he was injured and did not play matches # 1 and # 2 vs Senegal and Uruguay. But he played the last match of first round vs Denmark.

In the article's statement, "two World Cup Finals" is referring to the Final of the World Cup Finals. France did not make it into the Final of the 2002 World Cup Finals as they did not win a game or even score in the group stage. While the term "World Cup" technically includes the qualifying rounds and the finals tournament, "World Cup" is commonly used when referring only to the World Cup Finals tournament while "World Cup Final" is commonly used to refer to the very last game of the finals tournament. - Slow Graffiti 03:53, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed weasel words and POV

Zidane is knows to be quiet modest and shy - by who? Zidane has occasionally shown a quick temper. The word 'occasionally' is POV. Many would disagre that a forward who got sent off 14 times is his career is only 'occasionally' quick tempered. Cf Alan Shearer, who despite being a more physical player (and playing 80 more games) received two red cards in his career, one of which was overturned on appeal. Thehalfone 09:26, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I take these to be comments on his overall personality, not his on-pitch demeanor. Athletics has a way of bringing out a different side of people. In the interviews and videos of him off the pitch, I find those three adjectives to be accurate. - Slow Graffiti 03:53, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:ZidaneHeadbutt.gif

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[edit] Lipreading accuracy

"Sources of these translations often vary and some are based not on facts whatsoever. However, professional lip readers have been able to provide very accurate recounts of the event."

I understand a discussion about lipreading may not be appropriate in this place, however I would like to point out that lipreading is typically inaccurate and a big deal should not be made out of what has been lipread. It is true that some extremely rare gifted individuals can lipread remarkably well (close to 100%), but tests to prove it are always conducted in the lipreader's native language, and on high quality full frontal videos (e.g. A speechreading expert: The case of MM - J Rönnberg, J Andersson, S Samuelsson, B … - Journal of Speech, Language, and Hearing Research, 1999 - ASHA). The claim that it is possible to "provide very accurate recounts" by lipreading in a non native language from a much less than optimal video are unprovable and almost certainly exaggerated.

[edit] Wrong nationality

"Zinedine Yazid Zidane (IPA: [ˌzineˈdin jaziːd ziˈdan]; born 23 June 1972), popularly nicknamed Zizou, is a retired Italian football player of Algerian descent, famous for leading Italy to winning the 1998 World Cup": can someone please change that ? (s/italian/french/ and s/Italy/France/) when editing the page the correct country is displayed but the wrong country and nationality remain when saving. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.21.132.232 (talk) 23:03, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Name in Arabic

In previous editions of this article, Zidane's name written in Arabic was included. I wonder why was it removed? 124.106.201.225 12:38, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

tatp —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.200.164.152 (talk) 17:36, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Probably because Zidane isn't Arab and, as far as I know, doesn't have any Arab ancestry. Zidane is French-born of Algerian-kabyle descent. Metropolitan 2:33, 13 November 2007 (UTC).
if he is algerian descent that means he is arab cause one of his parents should be from algeria therefore he has arab acnestry —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vacumecleaner (talk • contribs) 09:53, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
He is of Kabyle descent, therefore he doesn't have Arab ancestry. Karpouzi (talk) 13:59, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Juventus/Real Madrid section

The section about Zidane's time in Juventus and Real Madrid is unbelievably short. Considering this was the pinnacle of his carreer, it must be expanded. Just compare the length of the Zidane-Materazzi section with the Juventus/Real Madrid section. It's absurd!!! In fact, I think it deserves two separate sections for each one of those clubs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.127.31.184 (talk) 07:22, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

...buddy algeria is an arab country buddy boy —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vacumecleaner (talk • contribs) 09:28, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Just make the Arabas happy and add him. He's at least Muslim, I know that for sure he prays at my local mosque. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.201.119.207 (talk) 15:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] World Player of the Year Awards

I know its relatively insignificant but it annoys me that the female footballer Birgit Prinz is placed in the same bracket as Ronaldo and Zidane, both male footballers abviously. She absolutely shouldn't be mentioned. He, by definition, is a male footballer while she is of course a female footballer. They are two different fields and entirely seperate, in much the same way as Roger Federer is chasing Pete Sampras' grand slam record not Margaret Court's. Its too poltically correct and insulting so get rid of it Lazarus89 (talk) 02:35, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Death

Can someone please post a source of his death.

First off, it was vandalism. Secondly, please sign all queries and/or comments with four tildes (these things: ~). Thank you. Ryecatcher773 (talk) 08:42, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Better picture?

Isn´t any other free picture, better than Zizou in his training suit ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Periptero (talk • contribs) 22:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)