Talk:Zicklin School of Business

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1. U.S. News & World Report is a somewhat limited news publication. Its views on and rankings of business schools are just plain irrelevant.

2. Crain's New York Business is hardly a top business journal. Crain's does a great job following the advertising industry; its other papers are at best tier-two sources, and limited largely to the New York scene.

3. Baruch College / Zicklin School of Business does not appear on the lists of

The Financial Times

Forbes

Economist

Business Week

In short, the business press -- the name-brand elements of it -- does not find much to say about Baruch, or CUNY in general, or the Zicklin School of Business in particular.

4. Baruch may in fact be a pretty good school for accountants. Sadly, gone are the days when accountants are at the heart of running businesses. We could explain this, but better not. It is not nice to be unkind. They can't help it. It's really not their fault....

5. Taken altogether, Baruch is actually not the best of the CUNY colleges. There is more to education -- especially undergraduate education in business -- than accounting and the odd management and marketing class. Half the degree program is arts-and-sciences; Baruch's arts and sciences programs are not stellar, and in general Hunter and Queens -- to a smaller degree, City College -- do far better. In particular, Baruch's undergraduate social sciences departments include some of the dullest people around; my kindly nature precludes me from naming names publicly. Since modern business education rests heavily on high quality research in the social sciences (economics, but also psychology, sociology and anthropology, and certainly history -- look at the best stuff coming out of HBS if you don't think this is so...), a crummy social sciences faculty is the kiss of death for the modern business education program.

Not to put too fine a point on it, this article is just plain bogus and should be flagged, or pulled.

And I think we will leave this anonymous. I teach in a CUNY college and am fond of my salary -- as is my landlord and my butcher and my grocer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.101.131.20 (talk • contribs)