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[edit] Patrician Brothers' College, Fairfield

Hi Zebra91,
The reason the lists of captains are not necessary is because it is of absolutely no interest to anybody outside of the school. It is better included on the schools website. Further, I deleted the section on the primary school as I had already merged the necessary info into the history section as it was repeated three times throughout the article. At present it is mentioned twice which is more than sufficient. Same with the building that is under constuction, it has its own section so it doesn't need to be mentioned again in the facilities list. Please have a look at the four best Aust school articles (GA's) to gain a better understanding of how to improve this article. They are: Presbyterian Ladies' College, Sydney, Caulfield Grammar School, Aquinas College, Perth, and Scotch College, Perth. Cheers. Loopla (talk) 15:11, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] February 2008

Please do not remove tags on articles unless the problem is solved, as you did on Patrician Brothers' College, Fairfield. Thanks. Loopla (talk) 01:56, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Patrician Brothers' College, Fairfield. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. ... discospinster talk 03:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

I know you dont intend on engaging in an edit war, and thats positive. But in reality you have, youve reverted four times on the page (see here, here, here, and here) which according to 3RR; Editors who violate the three-revert rule may be blocked from editing for up to 24 hours. In one of your edit summaries, you say: i will revert back to this until i am provided with a valid reason why i shouldback down, thats not how things work on wikipedia, we try to determine a concensus.

The guideline for schools is that lists of students do not belong in the article unless the students are notable outside the school. If you have an issue with that, then you can bring it up on the Wikiproject Schools talk page. Please remember that wikipedia is not for self promotion (with you being a past captain of the college).

Please remember wikipedia's policy on personal attacks, if you were truly that good, you would be writing for funk and wagnals, or britanica. but no, you are not. you are trying to exercise power over a wiki page, that appears to be in direct violation of it. Because you are new to wikipedia, im not going to take this any further. Please keep all comments to the content at hand, and keep it on the talk page of Patrician Brothers College. Thanks. Twenty Years 11:18, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FYI

Regarding your edits, I wanted to let you know that I've filed an alert here. I hope this can be resolved. Loopla (talk) 11:47, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Warning

Please take this as something of a final warning - you've already been asked not to edit war on the page, and you've been informed that doing so puts you at risk of breaching the three-revert rule. Further reverts may see you blocked from editing. I recommend that you use the discussion page of the article to resolve the situation. Also, be civil when interacting with fellow editors - all of us trying to improve the encyclopaedia, even if each has different ideas on what constitutes an improvement and how it may be done. Orderinchaos 14:14, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Actually, one has been cited to you. Firstly WP:NOT which is "an official policy on the English Wikipedia" specifically precludes the addition of lists of non-notable material to articles. Generally, edit warring rather than obtaining consensus with other editors and listening to what other people are saying is considered to be in contravention of communal editing norms. If everyone who wanted to put something in an article repeatedly reverted to get their way, the only people left on Wikipedia would be those who are willing to do so, and content development would practically cease. I understand that in real terms you're fairly new and don't yet understand how the place works, but please don't use that as a reason to fight for a list which does not belong on an encyclopaedia. In essence, Wikipedia's rules for inclusion don't vary *that* much from the Encyclopaedia Britannica and other works, so it's worth keeping in mind. Orderinchaos 07:02, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
One way of including the content, by the way, is linking in the External Links section at the bottom of the article to an external site which contains this information. That is quite acceptable, and provided the link conforms with external links guidelines (i.e. isn't to a blog or something like geocities) you shouldn't have many problems getting that accepted as an alternative idea. Orderinchaos 07:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Patrician Brothers' College, Fairfield

Ive made a proposal on the talk page of the article. I think it clearly satisfies both sides. Just hope we can forget all this stuff thats in the past, and move on. Thanks. Twenty Years 07:32, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Leadership at Patrican Brothers College

Another editor has added the {{prod}} template to the article Leadership at Patrican Brothers College, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but the editor doesn't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and has explained why in the article (see also Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Notability). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia or discuss the relevant issues at its talk page. If you remove the {{prod}} template, the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. BJBot (talk) 11:59, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey, ive noticed youve added the names of the past college captains to the page above. I thought we had a concensus to not have them actually on the page, but have a link to an external website which detailed the list of captains? Regardless, can you please add that link to the Partician Brothers College Fairfield page please? Thanks. Twenty Years 13:19, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Leadership at Patrican Brothers' College, Fairfield

Another editor has added the {{prod}} template to the article Leadership at Patrican Brothers' College, Fairfield, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but the editor doesn't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and has explained why in the article (see also Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Notability). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia or discuss the relevant issues at its talk page. If you remove the {{prod}} template, the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. BJBot (talk) 14:00, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Leadership at Patrican Brothers' College, Fairfield

I have nominated Leadership at Patrican Brothers' College, Fairfield, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leadership at Patrican Brothers' College, Fairfield. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Mattinbgn\talk 07:22, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Patrician Brothers' College, Fairfield

Hi. Noting your edit summary I've reduced the size of the image displayed. You may want to add a caption to it. Pedro :  Chat  09:46, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] General Facilities

Hi. I appreciate your reasons for wanting the list of general facilities. I believe the list of general facilities is not encyclopaedic and not notable. However, ultimately it's not my decision or your decision what goes on the page, but a view that is reached by the wider consensus of this Wikipedia community. For better or worse, the existing policies on Wikipedia have also resulted from consensus about what should be on here and what shouldn't. And there's consensus that material in Wikipedia should be encyclopaedic. Imagine the old hard-bound Encyclopaedia Brittanica - would you expect to find listed in there that Patrician Brothers' College has a canteen, ovals and a Year 7 block? That information is adding very little for the reader, and adds nothing of note to this encyclopaedia called Wikipedia. In the end, even if you convinced me, the chances are that others reading these pages may delete them if I didn't. I appreciate it's not the response you were seeking from me, but it's a reflection of how this medium works. (By the way, I'm assuming you're the user who left the message on my page - if you're not please ignore!) Murtoa (talk) 05:54, 15 March 2008 (UTC)