Talk:Zara Phillips

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[edit] Name?

From where does the name Zara come? Kingturtle 08:56 Apr 19, 2003 (UTC)

The bible, like most "Christian names"
What I mean is, was she named after someone in the family? Kingturtle 09:07 Apr 19, 2003 (UTC)
A quick google search comes up with the following, whether it's true or not I have no idea. http://www.askmen.com/women/models_150/167c_zara_phillips.html Mintguy
It could well be. I think it was a bit of a mystery at the time of her birth. Deb 20:29 Apr 19, 2003 (UTC)
Any resource I can find indicates it is from the Arabic, but there seem to be different ideas on what the Arabic meant, e.g. "radiance", "dawn", "new flower". Ordinary Person 23:50, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Charities?

Could anyone supply source of the statement that she has decreed her World Equestrian Game winnings to the Great Ormond St. Hospital? Don't know whether it needs to go in the article, but I'm curious as I have been unable to verify this through other sources. --Wilma Sweden 13:12, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hockey

In the UK, and in fact everywhere in the Commonwealth except Canada, "hockey" means hockey. Nobody in this region has heard the term "field hockey", and the notion of a member of the royal family playing ice hockey is risible. Use a wikilink to disambiguate, by all means, but "hockey" is the only word that needs to appear in the text. --Jumbo 10:23, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Absolutely. Leave it as it now stands, there is no ambiguity. Incidentally, there are plenty of pages with the word "football" to which you could apply the same logic - you'll start a war if you decide to change them all to "soccer". Budgiekiller 10:44, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
Of course, we're not writing exclusively for "the Commonwealth". But it's good to know that we can hide monstrousities like "New York, USA" in links. - Nunh-huh 20:36, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
This article is written in British English, not Canadian English, and in British English, hockey doesn't mean ice hockey. Likewise in Australian English, South African English, Jamaican English etc. --Jumbo 20:47, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
And applying the same logic, we won't be correcting all soccer players' articles who are described as footballers... Budgiekiller 21:31, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Put simply, stop it. I know she didn't win the award fairly because her grandmother's the Queen, but Darren Clarke was only going to win because his wife died anyway so what's the big deal? Besides, it doesn't alter the fact that you are acting like twats. Just piss off and stop ruining the site. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SteveBrookstein (talk • contribs) 21:15, 10 December 2006 (UTC). Should be semi protected i think - mikeleeds

Somebody keeps vandalising the transcript of her acceptance speech. Stop it will you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 193.133.239.211 (talk • contribs) 14:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] BBC Personality of the Year

Please leave the transcript for the acceptance of the award as it gives a great verbal insight into the girl's character. It is very relevant. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.21.90.179 (talk) 20:27, 11 December 2006 (UTC).

While the quote is fine, it shouldn't contain the usual speech hesitancies like "um" and "ha ha ha". I've removed those. Gwernol 20:41, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

That was the whole point so it's a waste of time with you lot as self-appointed axemen. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.21.90.179 (talk • contribs).

First, I'm not self-appointed, I'm an admin appointed by the Wikipedia community. More importantly you cannot add information to Wikipedia for the purpose of promoting your own view of events. Please see our policy on maintaining a neutral point of view. This is non-negotiable. Gwernol 01:44, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
First I'm sorry for the slight on your position. Second - it is not my point of view - it's exactly what happened and what was said. If the Telegraph can record it then why not here? I am disappointed at this action. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.21.90.179 (talk) 01:52, 12 December 2006 (UTC).
The point is, as you said above "the whole point... is to give great verbal insight into the girl's character". It's your opinion that it gives such insight. It may be that under pressure she has some verbal ticks as most people do. This is why reputable journalists almost always exclude such hesitations when reporting verbatim speech unless they are trying to make a specific point. If the Telegraph has done so (I haven't read it) then you can cite the specific article and note that the Telegraph said whatever conclusion they drew. You cannot use Wikipedia to provide particular "great insights" into people's character by selectively quoting them. Sorry, Gwernol 01:57, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Intro

It seems to me that her status as granddaughter of the Queen, which made her famous long before she became a well known sports person, should be mentioned first. john k 01:45, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mike Tindall

Why oh why oh why is her relationship with Mike Tindall keep being removed from this page? It must have been added and then removed atleast three or four times. Anyone care to explain? It's not as if they've tried to hide it. The King of Spain's beard 10:08, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree - I have restored the reference which seems to have got lost during the flurry of edits following her being voted Sports Personality of the Year. Hopefully things will now calm down to a more mature attitude Daemonic Kangaroo 10:42, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
There are a couple of serious problems with the citation in the paragraph you restored. First it doesn't appear to be a reliable source; it appear to be a sensationalist, badly spelled blog entry. Second even if it were a reliable source it doesn't say that the couple are living together. That citation cannot be used to support what is currently written in the article. Hopefully a better citation from a reliable source can be found. Presumably their relationship has been written about in a reliable newspaper given the recent publicity? Otherwise that's an unsourced statement that should be removed from the article. Gwernol
I have added a second, more relible link, but cannot find anything very recent, although there is a mention of their relationship on the BBC website regarding her SPOTY win [1] Daemonic Kangaroo 18:43, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sports Personality of the Year

It says that she will be succeeded by, "cucumber". Although highly amusing, can somebody fix this? 154.20.157.6 01:16, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jack Vettriano's Painting

Does anyone know if the painting will ever be available as a print? Twobells (talk) 13:28, 15 May 2008 (UTC)