User talk:Zanorath

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Contents

[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia Sam

Well Sam, you've joined the ranks. There are so many things for me to tell you, but there is somehing that I believe is most important. At some points during your time on the encyclopedia, your going to be discouraged. It's a fact of wikipedia. Because I know your quite tentative (probably) about being on Wiki, it's important that you know this. People on wikipedia (wikipedians, as they call themselves) are really wuite critical at times, but dont let this phase you. You don't have to create articles to be a good editor. You can simply contribute, and your work, I'm sure, will be greatly appreciated. If this happens, do not get too fussed about it, but try and figure out how to do it better, how to improve, and, of course, I, and many other helpful wikipedians, will be there to help you out. Ok, now on to some of your questions. Firstly, something that you may want to fix up as a start on your own user page is the articles ive contributed to section. You've done it fine, but the links you have implanted on the articles you've helped with are what are known as external links. these are links that link out of wikipedia. The ones you'll want to use when linking to articles within the encyclopedia are called internal links. To create internal links, you need to put two brackets around a word: example. While this may seem quite tedious, putting two brackets around every word you want to link (linking or 'wikilinking' (linking into pages in the wikipedia is considered important when making edits or articles. Every word you see that you think could lead to another page should probably be linked). However, there are several easier ways to do this: If you look up at the toolbar at the top of the edit screen, you should see a box with a blue 'Ab' that is underlined. Highlighting a word and pressing this button will form two brackets around the highlighted word, and create a link. Now that I have told you this, then you should realise that your Links section is really quite superfluous. ok. now. uve mentioned images quite a bit on MSN. This is how you do it. I'm going to put a very small and simple image on to your page, and you can then view this edit page to see what the script for the image is. Here goes:

The image example. See the edit page to see the script
The image example. See the edit page to see the script

ok. What ive done is implanted a small image onto your page. each time one of these - | - appears in the script for the image, im specifying another field,i.e: how big it is ((number) px),where its going to be (left or right), whether it's going to be a thumb or not (a thumb is a picture with a box containing text around it) (to not make a thumb, and leave a bare picture, just leave the field out) Ok, if theres a field you dont wanna fill in, such as what size its going to be (a thumb without size specification will fit in with the text appropriately), then just leave it out. Watch, I'll make another smiley without thumb:

un-thumbed image of simley. see script on edit page.

Anotgher thing about images that you need to know is Wikipedia:copyright policy. Theres a way to upload images. You do this by selecting, on the side toolbar of any wikipedia page (like where it says 'main page' 'contents' etc.) the 'upload file' link. This will take you to a page where you select a file from your documents to upload. It's pretty straightforward. But in the box, you MUST provide the information it requests. Look, its quite advanced for you right now, so just try and use images you find in articles by clicking on them, and using them the way I said. In a little while (meaning a couple of days) you can ask me about that, and i'll try and fix you up about uploading files.

Ok, that raps up images. Next thing you are going to need to know is where to find articles to write (you requested I tell you this). Well, wikiprojects are a prime way to find articles to write. I see you have already joined the military history wikiproject, but simply cliking on the following link: WP:PJ will send you to the wikiproject contents. There are oloads of wikiprojects, on almost every subject. Just click, in the contents, any field your interested in, and you'll be sent to a page filled with wikiprojects involved with that field of interest. This is the way i find articles. In most wikiprojects, they'll have a task list, to do list, or the like, filled with lists of articles that either: need to be created (requested articles), need to be cleaned up, need to be expandeed etc.

When you make articles, things need to be perfect to avoid the aforementioned scrutiniaty of others. You MUST reference the page properly, or it may even be considered for deletion, or someone will stick a nasty tag on it marking it for deletion or cleanup. You also must try and spell things correctly, and use the best grammar you can. I know you're not a fan of this, but it's important. People will fix it, when they come across your article, but try and make it as good as you can before this. Like me, you may want to enter some of your articles for DYK. I'll discuss that with you in great detail, if you want me to. But one important note: for articles to be eligible, they must be less than five days old, and considerably over 1000 letters. The aforementioned good grammar/spelling is also quite important, and unreferenced articles aren't even considered. More about that some other time.

On to the contributions you have alreeady made. I hope not to sound like those critical, people ive mentioned, and you've done a great job, but you must be grammatically correct. I know I've done it a fair bit in this message, but I need to tell you alot, but it's more acceptable on a talk page. I can see you've already used the word inpossible in your contribution to BFMEII. This should be fixed as soon as you can. You may also want to fix up grammar on your user page. To re-iterate: i know it's boring and quite annoying, but you should try to spell and use punctuation and grammar as best you can. It just takes a little longer, but it is vital. Another thing you may want to do is to leave an edit summary. this just explains on the history page of an article what exactly you have done. it's not too important, but people like it.

Ok, that's all I can think of to tell you at the moment. Everything i have said needs to be expanded, and if you just message me about your concerns, problems, worries and questions, I'll be able to answer them all. (well probably :)) Theres more to tell you, but that comprises the basics. I'll oprobably message you back some time soon to tell you more, but I think I've answered most of the questions you have already asked. (oh yeah, and about the userbox - it's just an image, a standard image. If you want to find userboxes for each of the wikiprojects youre involved in, then they should probably have it on the wikiproject front page, and you can just copy the script onto your page)

One last thing. Because I know you personally, and have a fair bit of expierience, you have your own personal answers machine. Please consider asking me how to do something before doing something that you don't really know how to do. Everybopdy makes mistakes, but you may cause a serious error, or regret what you have done later. So before doing something that you just don't get, ask me, and I should be able to sort it out.

Ok sam, thats the end of the very long message. It's fantastic that you've joined wikipedia, and I hope you decide to stay. It's a great place to share your great knowledge, and I think you'll really enjoy it once you get used to it.

Message me after you have read this message with any questions etc. Ill be waiting for your message. Your friend Josh, or as I am known here: --- ÅñôñÿMôús Dîššíd3nt 09:00, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Windows Vista

Hi, I am sorry I will have to revert your addition to Windows Vista again. What you have added is totally unsourced and as such goes against wikipedia's policy of having only text that is attributed to reliable sources (by which blogs and forums are disallowed). In absense of attribution, it stands as Original Research which is strictly disallowed. Also, it is written in an editorial-ish tone, and not a formal third person tone that wikipedia advocates.

Also, what value does it add to the Windows Vista article? People come to this for information on Vista, not iTunes. And if you are talking about compatibility issues in general, then why pick up only iTunes? That would constitute as PoV. (This does not mean I am advocating incuding a compatibility section, as in almost all probabilities it will be an incomplete list - not all software will be covered - and choosing one over other would be only because of preceived importance, and no concrete basis. Also, doing this would make the article's size blow out of control).

Due to all these reasons the edit is unsuited for the article. I am removing it. Please discuss the issue with other editors first before re-adding it. Being pushy about including your edits only alienates from editors. And excessive revert warring will ultimately lead to you being blocked. So, please talk it out if you feel there is a necessity. --soum (0_o) 10:52, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Don't take this too harshly Sam. You are doing a good job. Just try and build upon what he has said, and, as I said before, try not to let it phase you. (see my contribs to the talk page of ipod compatability. --- ÅñôñÿMôús Dîššíd3nt 11:17, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, it was not a warning or anything, just friendly advise. Image:Smile.png
I understand what you are trying to say. But, we here are bound by the policies. I think you do understand that this is stuff that has been researched and made by you (I am NOT going into the debate of where it has come from or even if it is right or wrong, thats not the point). As such, it constitutes as Original Research. As per wikipedia policies, whatever we include has to be sourced from WP:RS other sources. What we think or feel or know is not enough - they can not be included unless the same facts are backed up by some source. It is this clause that prevents the inclusion of your edits. Neither mine, nor yours, nor anyone else's edits are allows unless they are backed up by some source. Per wikipedia policies and guidelines, the onus of finding a citable source falls on the editor who wants some information included. If some information has to be included, it has to be attributed and sourced.
If you can provide some attribution, it can very well qualify for inclusion (though where it will be placed is still open for debate). As for your efforts to try and help others facing the same problems as you, its really commendable. Why don't you create a blog and post this specific bit of information there. Google does a damn good job of digging up even the most obscure bit of information.
Hope this does not dissuade you from editing here. Please stick with the policies WP:ATTR, WP:RS, WP:NPOV and WP:N - and you will be fine. :) Regards. --soum (0_o) 12:22, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Hey, just saw the article that you created iPod Compatibility with Windows Vista. The problems I mentioned with your addition to Windows Vista applies to this also. Plus some more - which mainly refers to the formatting of an article. See Manual of Style for details. User:Anonymous Dissident has already pointed out the most glaring problems. I would like to add some more. First is formatting and source information. Source can be cited in-line with a list of references at the bottom. Also, such short articles are classified as stubs and each article is to be categorized. I am doing it for the article, just go through how I did it. The external links section should not link to sites containing generic info about the subject but rather be specific to the topic being discussed.
One thing you should keep in mind that things here work by consensus. So, if the majority of people thik something, that is enforced.
Also, articles not conforming to the policies are deleted. There are two types of deletion - Speedy and Consensus-based. Articles that meet the speedy deletion criteria are deleted without any discussion. More complex cases are decided by consensus where an article is nominated for deletion, other peoples comment, support deletion or oppose. If majority of the people endorse deletion, they are deleted. In general, an article is deleted if:
among others. Any editor can nominate such articles for deletion and administrators decide whether to delete or not (for speedy deletion candidates) and the community for AfD candidates. Your article can be deleted under OR, actually speedily deleted. I tend to nominate such articles on sight for speedy deletion. But I am not nominating this one. But I am nominating it for discussion for deletion. Please take a look at what objections are raised.
Please note this is not to dissuade you against creating articles. It is to get you familiar with what the community exects of an article. Once you are familiar with it, I am sure you yourself with write articles that correspond to it.
For articles being considered for deletion, please do not remove the notice from the article. Rather follow the link that takes you to the discussion and provide your rationale and justification for the article. If you can convince the majority, or fix the article per their concerns, the article stays. Good luck. :) --soum (0_o) 13:18, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] License tagging for Image:Drivers.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Drivers.jpg. Wikipedia gets thousands of images uploaded every day, and in order to verify that the images can be legally used on Wikipedia, the source and copyright status must be indicated. Images need to have an image tag applied to the image description page indicating the copyright status of the image. This uniform and easy-to-understand method of indicating the license status allows potential re-users of the images to know what they are allowed to do with the images.

For more information on using images, see the following pages:

This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. If you need help on selecting a tag to use, or in adding the tag to the image description, feel free to post a message at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 11:05, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I'll fix this. The problem was that you left no copyright or liscensing info. Since, you created it Sam, you don't have to worry about this - you just forgot to notify that on the image page, and thats why the bot, who is built to detect unliscensed images, found it. I'll do it for you, and you can look at the script. Ill also direct you towards tags. --- ÅñôñÿMôús Dîššíd3nt 11:38, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
just add the following to the images edit page (see the edit page of this page to see what the script looks like):
Public domain I, the copyright holder of this work, hereby release it into the public domain. This applies worldwide.

In case this is not legally possible,

I grant any entity the right to use this work for any purpose, without any conditions, unless such conditions are required by law.

and all will be fine. --- ÅñôñÿMôús Dîššíd3nt 11:42, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for butting in but software screenshots are covered by fair use. Even though the screenshot might have been taken by you, you do not own the rights to it. But rather the company that created the software. As such, you cannot claim to have rights, nor subsequently release it. See fair use guidelines on how to use such images. Please be aware that WP:FU is not meant a blanket license to use copyrighted images. There are a lot of nittie-gritties to it. Read the policy (and supporting guidelines) to understand it fully. --soum (0_o) 15:27, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to the Military history WikiProject!

Hi, and welcome to the Military history WikiProject! As you may have guessed, we're a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of topics related to military history.

A few features that you might find helpful:

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask one of the project coordinators, or any experienced member of the project, and we'll be happy to help you. Again, welcome! We look forward to seeing you around! Kirill Lokshin 13:08, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue XIV (April 2007)

The April 2007 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.

This is an automated delivery by grafikbot 15:10, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:Drivers1.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:Drivers1.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable under fair use (see our fair use policy).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BetacommandBot 20:46, 10 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] June 2007

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. However, adding content without citing a reliable source, as you did to Xbox Live, is not consistent with our policy of verifiability. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. DarkAudit 12:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue XV (May 2007)

The May 2007 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.

This is an automated delivery by grafikbot 16:22, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue XVI (June 2007)

The June 2007 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.

This is an automated delivery by grafikbot 15:13, 8 July 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Rhinoslogo.png

Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:Rhinoslogo.png. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI 08:46, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Military history WikiProject coordinator selection

The Military history WikiProject coordinator selection process is starting. We are looking to elect nine coordinators to serve for the next six months; if you are interested in running, please sign up here by August 14! Wandalstouring 11:49, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Military history WikiProject coordinator election

The Military history WikiProject coordinator election has begun. We will be selecting nine coordinators from a pool of fourteen candidates to serve for the next six months. Please vote here by August 28! Wandalstouring 09:29, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XVIII (August 2007)

The August 2007 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.

Delivered by grafikbot 10:28, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XIX (September 2007)

The September 2007 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.

Delivered by grafikbot 10:47, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:ITunesundervista.JPG)

Thanks for uploading Image:ITunesundervista.JPG. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BetacommandBot 15:17, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XX (October 2007)

The October 2007 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.

Delivered by grafikbot 15:15, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits to Jay Leno

Hello Zanorath, it might not have been your intention, but your recent edits removed content from Jay Leno. I have restored the lost information. Accurizer 03:08, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXI (November 2007)

The November 2007 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot 03:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXII (December 2007)

The December 2007 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 00:01, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXIII (January 2008)

The January 2008 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 01:34, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Military history coordinator selection

The Military history WikiProject coordinator selection process is starting. We are aiming to elect nine coordinators to serve for the next six months; if you are interested in running, please sign up here by February 14! Woody (talk) 11:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXIV (February 2008)

The February 2008 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 08:30, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXV (March 2008)

The March 2008 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 03:13, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXVI (April 2008)

The April 2008 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 02:49, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXVII (May 2008)

The May 2008 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 02:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)