Talk:Zakir Naik/Archive 1

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Zakir Naik's figures

Zakir Naik's figures about male and female population in the USA and the rest of the world are blatantly wrong adn people might use his WRONG figures for their use. Believe it or not, people use Wikipedia for research. We should provide the right information and direct them to links where they can get more information. This is not refutation of Zakir Naik's arguments, it is only pointing people to thr right information (from a reliable source).

If we just leave the wrong information as it is, it looks like this article is just puffing up Naik.


11:01, 10 February 2006 (UTC)11:01, 10 February 2006 (UTC)212.190.74.28 11:01, 10 February 2006 (UTC)Can please please stop adding links to the same site more than once, at least within the same topic area. I also dont think its wiase to be listing telephone numbers which make a profit for the person receving the call. I think if someone is able to view this website then im sure they can also download the lectures for free.

POV

I added the POV tag, after removing "Alhamdulillah" from the article, which doesn't sound very NPOV to me ... ---Benne ['bɛnə] (talk) 21:31, 13 January 2006 (UTC

I have removed the POV tag as I don't think it is needed anymore. I deleted the line stating that he is afraid of debating with Ali Sina, as on Sina's webpage (www.faithfreedom.org) it merely states that Sina sent the IRF a invite for a debate to Dr Naik, and the IRF replied stating that he does not arrange debates through the IRF's email. Which does not mean he is afraid to debate with him. I also removed the phrase 'glorious Qur'an' because although that is what I would call it, it's a phrase that would not normally be used by non-Muslims, so I thought it would be better for a NPOV. M2k41 15:28, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Eating pork makes you promiscuous?

I put up a POV tag until I can get to this article. It is completely biased, nothing but fawning praise for this fellow. The para on his "scientific studies" of the pig is completely RIDICULOUS. If the guy doesn't like pigs, he should check out bonobo chimpanzees. Plus, the suggestion that you become like the animals you eat is risible. Zora 18:54, 14 January 2006 (UTC) :I doubt if he said that. An anon has been adding it for the last one day, I have already reverted him once. I will remove his changes again as they are unreferenced. btw, the suggestion that you become like the food you eat is widely mentioned in the vedic regions, but that would be an entirely different discussion. --Gurubrahma 01:27, 15 January 2006 (UTC) Apologies, he indeed seems to have said that, check the link given in the article. --Gurubrahma 01:32, 15 January 2006 (UTC

Apparently this guy is an INDIAN Muslim, so he might well be repeating stuff he heard from relatives without realizing that it is Vedic.
This guy, or one of his followers, has populated Wikipedia with a number of articles dedicated to puffing him. A good hard google might reveal something about him. We could also use input from any Mumbaikars who edit here. Zora 01:36, 15 January 2006 (UTC)


this is a joke

Can I just point out that while factually accurate, this article is ACTUALLY written (or editted) by someone with a huge contempt for the subject. In particular the section on pig psychology is just someone taking the piss. Yes s he did say those stupid quotes, but noone considers it "pig psychology". I found this wikipedia entry laugh out loud funny however and since it is not factually inacurrate I suggest leaving it as is 129.67.126.71 08:57, 15 January 2006 (UTC)


Added some balance

Review the added link at the bottom for my primary source

Contribution on pig psychology

I am the author of the paragraph on "pig psychology" under "awards"

Yes, I agree that mentioning "a breakthrough in studies about pig and human psychology" is a slight exaggeration of Dr Zair Naik's merits, but I felt that I should keep the same over-enthusiastic and laudatory style used in the rest of the article.

With regard to the fact that his comparative studies are "widely recognized internationally", I would like to point to some interesting discussions held on this subject in a highly regarded UK Academic forum, ("The Student Room"), with contributions from all over the world.

Please check at http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/t194971.html

and http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/t194794.html Giordaano

  • "The Student Room" is not a highly regarded academic forum; it's a discussion site for undergraduates. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 13:57, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Ok, Ok, I'll stop being over-enthusiastic and laudatory.

You will be surprised, however, by the quality of many discussions on "The Student Room", which can be of a very high scientific level, and do include contributions from a very wide range of geographical areas 87.64.5.236 16:44, 15 January 2006 (UTC)