Talk:Zagreus (Doctor Who audio)
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[edit] Categorizing Zagreus
I'm not sure whether Zagreus should be in the Fifth, Sixth, and Seventh Doctor categories. True, it stars Davison, C. Baker and McCoy as well as McGann (not to mention the Pertwee cameo), but none of them are exactly playing the Doctor. They take on more Doctorish qualities towards the end of the story, but they're still other characters, partly modelled on the TARDIS's memory of past Doctors. I'm inclined to remove the 5/6/7 Doctor categories and templates from the page (and remove Zagreus from the templates as well). —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 05:53, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
- Seems okay to me. It's borderline, obviously, but this seems like a good course of action.--Sean|Black 07:13, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
- But they do appear very briefly as their actual characters of the Doctor in one scene - when the Eighth Doctor dies and is greeted by his other aspects inside his head. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 07:37, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
- That's true. I'd forgotten that bit. But is it enough to merit the story's inclusion in the category? After all, we don't include The Caves of Androzani as a Sixth Doctor serial, even though the Sixth Doctor has about three lines in it. (Sort of playing devil's advocate here.) —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 07:48, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
- I would distinguish Caves because the Doctor's lines, such as they are, have nothing to do with the story. Whereas in Zagreus, the aspects are part of the plot. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 08:08, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
- That's true. I'd forgotten that bit. But is it enough to merit the story's inclusion in the category? After all, we don't include The Caves of Androzani as a Sixth Doctor serial, even though the Sixth Doctor has about three lines in it. (Sort of playing devil's advocate here.) —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 07:48, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
- But they do appear very briefly as their actual characters of the Doctor in one scene - when the Eighth Doctor dies and is greeted by his other aspects inside his head. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 07:37, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Liverpudlian Zagreus
I think it's worth mentioning in the trivia section that the hologram Zagreus in the Omega audio CD has a comedy Liverpool accent. I notice from the history that somebody tried to suggest it before and was shot down. Paul McGann has a mild Liverpool accent; the Zagreus in Omega has a very pronounced, comical, fake one - he almost sounds like one of Harry Enfield's Scousers. I guess it's a joke that doesn't travel outside of the UK, but trust me, it IS a joke - and a funny one. Cardinal Wurzel 14:21, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
