Talk:Zabranjeno Pušenje

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[edit] Belgrade band members

I'd be really nice if someone could help with members of Belgrade band... --Dijxtra 16:35, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Copyvio

I just noticed that the big chunk of this article is a verbatim copy of this: [1]. Can somebody please try to clarify it? It seems like a simple copy/paste. Anyway, parts of the article, like intro and band members is still salvagable. --Dejan Čabrilo 14:11, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Could you please quote parts of article that are problematic? The thing is I myself wrote probably 50% of the article and I used all kinds of sources, but not that one, so if there is a copyvio problem, it is minor. Therefore, I beg you to remove the tag and I promise I'll rewrite all disputable data myself. I put a lot of work in this article and I know for sure it donesn't deserve copyvio (but I acknowledge the posibility there are some copyvio disputes, and if there are any I empasise they are minor and will be fixed at once). Now, please remove the copyvio tag and lets get to work. --Dijxtra 14:23, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Ok, now I see... Everything from here: [2] is a copyvio, and it was merged (of course, that's nobody's fault) in this article at some point. I think I got it all removed now. --Dejan Čabrilo 14:19, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Oh, I see. Damn, damn, then I merged the copyvio material. Sorry about that. I'll fix this article ASAP. BTW, the source you quoted is in fact a copyvio too, the original is here. --Dijxtra 14:30, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
I think I removed everything that was copy/pasted. See if you can find anything else (or if I removed some valid content). --Dejan Čabrilo 15:19, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Translation of the name

I thing that "forbidden smoking" is very much wrong, since it would represent a kind of smoking which is forbidden, which is not the meaning of "zabranjeno pusenje". I think that "smoking is forbiden" is by far more precise literal translation. --Dijxtra 13:06, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Given that the group calls itself in English "No Smoking Orchestra", why aren't we using that? Their web site is http://www.thenosmokingorchestra.com. - Jmabel | Talk 05:50, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
No Smoking Orchestra is an entirely different name. That band was spawned from Zabranjeno pušenje, but at one point they stopped calling themself Zabranjeno pušenje and started using similar but different name (No smoking Orchestra). Now, "Zabranjeno pušenje" is best translated as "No smoking", as it's a set phrase found on signs saying that smoking is forbidden. :) --dcabrilo 07:26, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
What Dejan didn't mention is that one of two currently existing fractions of original "Zabranjeno pušenje" still uses that name. So, strictly speaking, it is not true that "the group calls itself in English "No Smoking Orchestra"". Only one fraction of the gruop does that. --Dijxtra 09:40, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

The phrase "Zabranjeno pušenje" simply means "No smoking". I don't see why we would need a more literal translation than that. Zocky | picture popups 15:24, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the truth IS that the name of the band has those two meanings: 1. simple "no smoking", like "no smoking" sign; and 2. "the forbidden smoking" - the smoking that is illegal (zâbranjeno pusenje) - meaning of course: the drugs.--LifeOnMars (talk) 08:59, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Satan

Why "As you wait for the dawn with the Satan"? "…with Satan" would be more normal English. Is there anything in the original that requires the definite article? I don't know Serbian, but in general Slavic languages don't even have a definite article. - Jmabel | Talk 05:57, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

No, the original language has no definite article, so what ever sounds more natural in English. --dcabrilo 07:23, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Fixed. --Dijxtra 09:33, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Two diferent articles

I think this article should be divided into two after the break up of Sarajevo and Belgrade branches. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.180.66.133 (talk) 20:48, 29 February 2008 (UTC)