Talk:Za dom spremni
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The capitalization is necesary?
Completely unnecessary... Don't want to venture any guesses why it was originally put in. Though Ustaše symbolism and identity is unfortunately alive and well in today's Croatia, it would be good to check the legal status on displaying and using these symbols and slogans and include this info in the article. Miranche 00:44, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Though Ustaše symbolism and identity is unfortunately alive and well in today's Croatia?????
explain this.Individuals (idiots) do not represent the Croatian people.Unfortunatley every county in the world has nazis.--(GriffinSB) (talk) 13:55, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] However, the salute has seen an increase in popularity in Croatia since the 1990s war, especially among Croatian nationalists
The salute was forbidden during the communist Yugoslavia because the Ustase used but more becuase it was a reflection of Croatian nationalism.Croatian nationism as well as the Serbian,Slovenian,Macedonian etc. was forbidden as well. So of course it's going to se some increse after the communist era because the starting point was zero.--(GriffinSB) (talk) 15:34, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Can I Say Something Here
I'm guessing this page was edited during the whole Thompson fiasco across north america by Croatians who don't have a clue about Ustase and want to defend Thompson (who is completely pro-Ustasa). "Za Dom Za Dom" is a historical Croatian call, "Spremni!" is a historical Croatian call, but "Za Dom - Spremni !" is a historical call / salute which was only ever used in history by USTASE. It was rehabilitated during the 90s wars as the 90s showed great parallels to the 40s in Croatian eyes (continuing the fight left in the fields of Bleiburg in '45 - fighting for a free Croatia against Serbocommunist hegemony etc). The fact that some people even try to argue that this salute is 'thousands' of years old or even 'hundreds' is completely laughable - they are just trying to defend thompson or simply do not know any better. Oh and one more thing - the Ustase, never saluted "Za Koga - Za Poglavnika!" - the only time I have ever heard of that is at the beginning of a popular HOS (Croatian Defense Force) song from the 90s. Ustase would salute "Za Dom!" "Spremni!" or PTB and PTS units would salute "ZA DOM I POGLAVNIKA !" - "SPREMNI!". OH, and the opera does not say "Za Dom Spremni" anywhere, it says "Za Dom Za Dom" - which I have mentioned earlier as a historical Croatian salute - however, once again "Za Dom - Spremni!" is 100 percent Ustasa make.AP1929 (talk) 06:13, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
This salute has nothing to do with that idiot Thompson.Thompson is allegely a Ustasa sympathiser,because he denies it.But who cares about him,as i said he's an idiot. The "problem" with this salute are the Serbs who comdemn Croatian nationalism from the starting point. Every patriot is an Ustasa to them and everything has to be connected to the fascist Ustasa regime. Serbs are trying to ripp us off our past and history by smearing it. It's translation says enough.For homeland.Ready!.... Serbs just want to globalize the Ustase conotations.--(GriffinSB) (talk) 10:15, 10 May 2008 (UTC)