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[edit] Request

Please change Z Force all the way through. It is only known as Z Force by people who know nothing about Z Special Unit history. Few things rile/d the Z operatives more than being known as Z Force.

Well, I have read and heard Z Force members in interviews refer to it as Z Force, or "Z Special Force". Grant65 | Talk 09:24, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Agree with Grant65. The opening sentence explains it well "...also known as Z Force...". No need to change the article for the anon. Krait 10:22, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

It's a sign of respect - just because you think it shouldn't be changed! My Grandfather is in Z Special Unit and I am a member of Z Special Unit and it annoys them so much, so it has been chnaged! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anzac1974July 9, 2007 (talk • contribs)

Anzac74 please stop making alterations to the article which are against Wikipedia policy and/or the consensus of other editors. If you don't understand the objections to what you are doing, ask here. As for the name, see the official Wikipedia policy on this: WP:Use common names. Grant | Talk 06:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
In particular, please check out the instructions for Template:Infobox Military Unit. This is meant to be used to describe military units, and doesn't include reunion activities, etc. For instance, 'branch' refers to the service the unit formed part of, and not which branch of the RSL reunions are held at. Copying and pasting lengthy veterans biographies are copyright violations even if you provide a link, and biographys of non-notable people don't belong in an encyclopedia - especially if they're available on a stable government website. AFAIK, 'Z Force' is the most common name for this unit and even if it's not correct it's worth a mention - if for no other reason than to highlight that it's not the unit's correct name. --Nick Dowling 07:12, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Hate to tell you two but you are both wrong, this I can't understand. My Grandfather is in Z Unit and I am a member so the information I have is first hand and 100% correct BUT to be honest I don't have the time to keep correcting you two. So I'll point out a few of your glaring mistakes one last time and leave it at that - I understand that you two think you are correct but I guess it is a downside of having a WIKIpedia - you get people who think they know it all but don't! 1. "Z Force" is not their nickname - this is just what uneducated people call the Unit 2. Eric Dumesny is a notable person, he represented the Australian Defence Force at Borneo at the ceromonies, was one of the first navy personnel to join Z Special Unit - just because he didn't die or goes around telling everyone how great he is doesn't mean he isn't notable. Plus it was a lengthy biography - it's someones life - a BIOgraphy. 3. Also, it wasn't in breach of the Defence/Veterans' Affairs copyright laws, did you read the second link I provided???? I sourced the material, I referenced it, so it is not in breach of any copyright law!!!!!

And that's all I could be bothered doing, as I know you two people who have heaps of time on your hands and read lots of books and think you know something will have comebacks and wikipedia rules and laws and what nots, so I'll just leave it at that. I know I'm right as I talk to living members of the Unit, I march with them, I chat with them, have beers with them and we chat about the War, the Unit and life, so I know all about Z Special. One thing though, I am glad Z Special is on wikipedia and whoever started the page - well done, I'll give credit to you, what is on there is great with just a few mistakes. A lot more could be added but at least people out there are learning about the brave men who for 50 years after the war couldn't even tell their families what bravery they showed during the war.

ANZAC1974

[edit] S W Carey

I added a link to Samuel Warren Carey and will amend his entry to include info from here. Lt Walter Carey who lost his life in Op. Rimau was his brother. I have read elsewhere that S. Warren Carey, as he is usually known, was sent to New Guinea because the Captains of the ships in Townsville wanted him jailed. Fred.e 17:31, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tidal River base

Tidal River, Wilsons Prometory in Victoria has a monument to both Z and M Force, Tidal River was a training base for both units but there is no mention of this in this article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 211.28.252.137 (talk • contribs) January 18, 2007.

Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). Grant65 | Talk 07:01, 18 January 2007 (UTC)