User talk:Yukonjack

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[edit] The Cascades

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as The Cascades, but we regretfully cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from either web sites or printed material. This article appears to be a direct copy from http://www.destinationdoowop.com/cascades.htm, and therefore a copyright violation. The Cascades has been nominated for deletion.

If you believe that the article is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under the GFDL, you can comment to that effect on Talk:The Cascades. Then you should do one of the following:

  • Make a note permitting reuse under the GFDL at the site of the original publication.
  • Send an email from an address associated with the original publication to permissions at wikimedia dot org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation.

If the article has already been deleted, but you have a proper release, you can reenter the content at The Cascades, after describing the release on the talk page. However, you may want to consider rewriting the content in your own words. Thank you, and please feel free to continue contributing to Wikipedia.For more information, take a look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Happy editing! Garion96 (talk) 01:09, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright

You appear to be adding copyrighted content to articles. --Brat32 01:15, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

As long as it's not proven that it's not a copyright violation, please stop adding material from htpp://www.destinationdoowop.com to wikipedia articles. Garion96 (talk) 01:17, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
I saw your message here. Please do one of the following so that we know for sure we can use this material on wikipedia.
  • Make a note permitting reuse under the GFDL at the site of the original publication.
  • Send an email from an address associated with the original publication to permissions at wikimedia dot org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation.

Garion96 (talk) 01:20, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Regarding your message here, no problem. Just don't add anything for the time being from your site until your e-mail is confirmed. Wikipedia can't be too carefull concerning copyright. Garion96 (talk) 01:34, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't know how long it takes. But even if the article gets deleted, any admin on wikipedia can restore it again. Btw, you can also respond on my talk page here. Garion96 (talk) 23:30, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
I would wait a while. Permissions has to send a message to this wikipedia to confirm. The permissions e-mail is for all Wikimedia sites so I assume it might take some time. I will see if I can find someone who can confirm it. Garion96 (talk) 02:24, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] E-mail

Regarding permissions, I send an e-mail to your yahoo account. Garion96 (talk) 23:04, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I responded to your email

I forwarded you the permissions email. Please review and reinstate the changes I made to the various group harmony artists' pages. Thanks.

[edit] The Five Discs

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as The Five Discs, but we regretfully cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from either web sites or printed material. This article appears to be a direct copy from http://www.destinationdoowop.com/fivediscs.htm. As a copyright violation, The Five Discs appears to qualify for speedy deletion under the speedy deletion criteria. The Five Discs has been tagged for deletion, and may have been deleted by the time you see this message. If the source is a credible one, please consider rewriting the content and citing the source.

If you believe that the article is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under the GFDL, you can comment to that effect on Talk:The Five Discs. If the article has already been deleted, but you have a proper release, you can reenter the content at The Five Discs, after describing the release on the talk page. However, you may want to consider rewriting the content in your own words. Thank you, and please feel free to continue contributing to Wikipedia. - CrazyRussian talk/email 15:59, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please don't add copyrighted text to Wikipedia

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We appreciate your creation of the articles, The Lanes, The Native Boy but we cannot accept copyrighted text borrowed from other web sites or printed material. Please see Wikipedia:Copyright problems for more information on this topic, or generally, Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines. Please do not remove the copyright violation notice placed in the article or repost the suspected infringing text. However, if you would like to rewrite the article in your own words, follow the link in the posted notice to create a temporary subpage. If your new article is appropriate, and not a further copyright violation, the reviewing administrator will move that new article into place once the copyright status of the original has been resolved. Happy editing! --Fuhghettaboutit 16:26, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I saw you message on the talk page of The Lanes. As I noted there I can;t confirm this and a mechanism of some kind needs to be put in place to give notice to editors of that permission. I suggest a note from the Administrator who handles the claim of permission on this page.--Fuhghettaboutit 16:38, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
I believe I tagged this page and many related pages a week or so ago as copyright violations, and they were removed or I reverted changes to existing pages. They are now all being reposted, how do we know that permission to use the text has been given, or is this just a big waste of time to have to delete (or revert) them all again? It's very frustrating to go around in circles. --Brat32 16:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] To BRat and others

--Yukonjack 16:47, 21 August 2006 (UTC)I have an email from the permissions folks at Wikipedia. I am going to post it here for all to see - this is were I granted Wikipedia permission to use any and all material from my web site (www.destinationdoowop.com) and they responded that I could go forward with posting my material. You can confirm this with Garion96 or Michal Zlatkovsky of your permissions group as well:

_________________________________________

Dear Yukon Jack,

Thank you for your mail.

Yukon Jack <destinationdoowop@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am releasing to Wikipedia any and all content from the Streetcorner of Stars > portion of www.destinationdoowop.com for redistribution under the GFDL. > Please allow our group histories to be included on your site. The public will > enjoy reading them and learning more about the great artists from the world of > group harmony and doo-wop. Thank you. > > Best, > > Permissions <permissions@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Dear Yukon Jack, > > Thank you for your mail. > > Yukon Jack wrote: > > > I am Yukon Jack from www.destinationdoowop.com. I own all the content on this > > web site. I hereby grant permission for any and all of our group histories to > > be posted on Wikipedia so that everyone can enjoy them > > > > best, > > > > > > Yukon JackDestination Doo-Wopwww.destinationdoowop.com > > > > > > > > > > If you wish for your information to be included in Wikipedia, you must release > it for publication under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License > (GFDL). This license may be viewed at . > > > If you provide us with a clear statement that you are releasing this content > for redistribution under the GFDL or into the public domain, or in the case of > images and other media, a similar license (such as certain Creative Commons > licenses), then your content may be used on Wikipedia. > > Thank you for your understanding! Please see > for more information. > > Yours sincerely, > Michal Zlatkovsky > > -- > Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org > --- > Disclaimer: all mail to this address is answered by volunteers, and responses > are not to be considered an official statement of the Wikimedia Foundation. > For official correspondence, you may contact the site operators at > . > > > > > Yukon JackDestination Doo-Wopwww.destinationdoowop.com > > > >

Your permission is enough for publishing your information. For information about contributing to Wikipedia see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Welcome>.

Yours sincerely, Michal Zlatkovsky

-- Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org

[edit] Your postings

It looks like you're going to a lot of effort to post a lot of potentially useful material. However, if you don't want it all to be deleted you should take a few simple steps:

  • For the material that comes from another site, you should post the permission on the talk page of the article. Otherwise, it will get tagged as a copyright violation and deleted
  • For articles that were previously deleted, you should explain, on the talk page, why they're ok now (in the case of a previous deletion because of copyright violation the release on the talk page should be sufficient)- otherwise they will be deleted as a repost
  • All of the articles should cite sources
  • All of the articles should be in some category
  • The articles should be formatted to Wiki standards (wikification) see the manual of style
  • All of the articles should state within them why the subject is notable. See WP:Importance
  • The articles should not contain original research. See WP:OR.

I hope this helps - I'd hate to see you waste a lot of time and effort. Thanks, Brian 16:57, 21 August 2006 (UTC)btball

[edit] Template you might use

It might help if you put the {{confirmation|url=source of material}} tag in the articles that have copyright permission. Otherwise there's probably going to be ongoing tagging of them as possible copyright violations...Brian 19:34, 21 August 2006 (UTC)btball

[edit] Some helpful ideas

Glad you got the copyright permission cleared up :) Unfortunately, now people are tagging the articles to be deleted because they don't clearly show that they meet our criteria for the inclusion of musical groups. You can check out those criteria at Wikipedia:Notability (music). I've removed a lot of the deletion tags because I know the groups and realize that they do fit the criteria (I've even mentioned why in my summaries when I remove the tag), but you might want to put an intro on the articles that gives a summary of their career including those things they did which merit their inclusion. Also, you'll want to find the references that the information in those articles came from - another very important policy is verifiability (see WP:V) which requires that we provide the sources for the information in our articles. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help. Shell babelfish 22:26, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

I am the source for this information. I interviewed members of these doo-wop groups and developed the material for these entries. Should I just put down "Source: Yukon Jack" or "www.destinationdoowop.com?"

Yukon Jack

Have you read No original research? Brian 15:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)btball

[edit] No Original Research

Well, all information has to originate some where, correct? Everything on this site was created by someone some place some time. Information doesn't just come out of thin air. If I cite to a source, lets say a book about the Cleftones, where did that source get his or her information? He or she created it - it was original. If you trace it all the way back, you have to get to the original source. In this case, I am the original source for the information contained in these articles. There is no intermediate source. If you delete my material, then people will never get to read about these fabulous musical groups that contributed so much great music to an entire generation of people. That would be very sad.

Yukon Jack

I agree that it would be good to have articles about these groups. The "no original research" means that the person that does the research can't be the one writing the article. Someone else, independent of the original researcher, could write the article and cite the source. Brian 18:14, 22 August 2006 (UTC)btball

[edit] I Have "Reliable Sources" As Required

Your policy says: "the only way to demonstrate that you are not doing original research is to cite reliable sources which provide information that is directly related to the topic of the article, and to adhere to what those sources say."

In this case, I interviewed the members of these groups - they are the "reliable source providing information that is directly related to the topic." They were there - they know what happened and can reliably report on it. Like an eyewitness to history.

Therefore, my material is not "original research" as suggested.

Yukon Jack

[edit] Just Forget It

Geez Louise. You would think that Wikipedia would be grateful to have material to add to their site. Instead, I get nothing but grief about posting my material. You know what - just forget about it. Delete everything. I'm done with this site and its crazy policies. Bye now.