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Yuan Shikai was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. Reviewed version: May 13, 2006

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Contents 1 New material? 2 Death date 3 date links 4 GA nomination has failed 5 Japan on imperial bid 6 Hongxian 7 Family 8 Category 9 Grants Tomb 10 Dynasty name?

[edit] New material?

This material of mine touches on Yuan Shih-Kai's constitutional attempts: [[1]]. Perhaps people can use some of it, here and in any article on the Hartford convention. PML.

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Was Yuan ever really an emperor? My most detailed sources indicated that he delayed his coronation repeatedly and finally abandoned his scheme altogether. At best he would be emperor-elect. --Countakeshi 04:18, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

He was emperor, although he never coronated himself. See Empire of China (1915-1916). Elle _{vécut heureuse} ^{à jamais} (Be eudaimonic!) 09:11, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Death date

On the June 6th article it say that Shikai died on June 6th, but on his article it says 5th... i have looked al over and nowhere does it say he died on the 5th, so i am going to change it to the 5th till another person corrects it, with proff. Biggal6 5:23 PM EST, 8 October 2006

[edit] date links

Can someone please remove all of the links to years/months that have no date, as per WP policy. This is necessary to satisfy the critera for Good Article. Tony 06:27, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA nomination has failed

I am failing the GA nomination for paucity of sources and lack on in-line citations. The article is generally well written and covers the subject sufficiently fully but without verifiable sources it doesn't quite make the cut. Eluchil404 12:25, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Japan on imperial bid

"The Imperial Government in Japan suggested similar ideas"

--I thought that Japan opposed any settlement that would increase political stability in China? At least, isn't that why it crushed the imperial movement later on? Brutannica 06:08, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hongxian

Um doesn't Hongxian roughly translate to 'enlightened age' or something similar? Im pretty sure it was a self-proclaimed term.

[edit] Family

Apparently his descendants are everywhere in the world. Someone should put up a list. Colipon+(T) 03:40, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category

This article was recently moved from Qing Prime Ministers to Qing Dynasty Chancellors as a result of a blanket move that, seemingly, no-one noticed. I've proposed for it to be moved because it is a simple error. Please add your comments at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_March_22#Category:Qing_Dynasty_chancellors —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sumple (talk • contribs) 01:42, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Grants Tomb

I have seen grant's tomb and yuan's tomb in Anyang, they are not similar at all. Yuans tomb is more in the style of a Ming tomb, the site is about 1 km long and very pretentious for a man such as Yuan. Eregli bob 08:53, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dynasty name?

Does anyone knows what was, if any, the name chosen by Yuan Shih-Kai to be the dynastic name (such as Ming, Qing, etc)? Hongxian seems to be his reign name —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.40.57.129 (talk) 20:44, 6 June 2008 (UTC)