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[edit] Name confusion

are you sure that "da yu" and "yu huang" are identical? i always thought they were different persons... also, the "yu" in yu huang is different from the "yu" in da yu...

  • yeah I changed it. The Yu in Yu the Great is 禹, and the Yu in Yu Huang is 玉 Wareware 01:21, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Note that the Encyclopedia Mythica link is to yu-huang but the entry there that corresponds to this Wikipedia article is "Da-yu".How are the two related?--Louis E./le@put.com/12.144.5.2 21:41, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Da Yu (Yu the Great) has no relation with the Yu Huang Da Di (The Great Jade Emperor). I believe Stargate, which I watch and which features a character by the name of Yu, may be the cause of this confusion, since it doesn't seem to distinguish between these two persons. But then, hey, what do you expect from TV?...... I've removed that misleading link. --Menchi 22:05, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
They are different. See Jade Emperor for details. --Countakeshi 02:30, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
I don't think there are links between the Jade Emperor 玉帝,and Yu the Great,大禹.Though 玉Jade,and Yu,禹,maybe the homophone in Modern Chinese.--Ksyrie 19:52, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dating (eras) of this article

The MoS says that either BC/AD or BCE/CE may be used in an article. Since this article is about a non-Christian figure and part of the world, it seems to me that BCE/CE notation would make the most sense. Comments? Sunray 20:41, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree.-Agoodperson 02:03, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More info

I found a website about Yu:http://www.britishbornchinese.org.uk/pages/culture/legends/yu.html Agoodperson 02:26, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Redundancy

"... emperors in imperial times ..." -- are there emperors in other times? Mdotley 18:12, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Apart from that, Yu wasn´t even an emperor.

[edit] Contradiction

The following transcript is contradicting with the literature. "Before Yu's time, the title of emperor was passed to the next person considered by the community to have the highest virtue, instead of from father to son. However, Yu's son, Qǐ (啟), proved very capable himself and was recommended to be the next ruler, which marks the starting of the new dynasty (夏, the first dynasty of China). This became the precedent of rulership based on heredity in China."

Apparently the entry is enter before further reading. The above transcript are either base on Xi-Ji(史记) or Chun-qiu(春秋). It is noted that Yu predecessor, Shun, are taking the throne from his father-in-law, Yi-Fang-Shun(伊放勋). Do take note Yi-Fang-Shun inherit the throne from his father. So heredity is normal practice before Yu.

To avoid contradiction, I have remove the section.

[edit] 建碑《大禹陵》

The great accomplishment in controlling the flood of Si Wen-ming, Emperor Yu or King Yu of the Xia Dynasty and commonly known as Da Yu, is included in the book of Famous Chinese People published by China Book Press of Beijing Library in July, 2005. Si Wen-ming, i.e. Da Yu is a hero with much kindness and wisdom in Chinese history who is famous for his fighting with flood. He is also the founder of Xia Dynasty and is regarded as a respectable historic figure who had made great contribution to the development of Chinese civilization. Here is a photo of the stele in front of the Mausoleum of Da Yu 建碑《大禹陵》照片. A one-month self-catered travel starting from Beijing was made in July, 2005. Written by Jiuan Jiuan Yau —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.75.121.227 (talk) 00:49, 1 April 2008 (UTC)