Template talk:YouTube

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Templates for deletion This template was considered for deletion on 2006 June 16. The result of the discussion was withdrawn by nominator (Keep).

This is a template to generate links to YouTube.

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[edit] Usage

{{YouTube| video id | title }}

[edit] Example

{{youtube|id=yj_c5ZAIXbk|title=One Froggy Evening}}

Would create this:

One Froggy Evening at YouTube

Note that, since this will almost certainly go on the external link section, you should add a * before the template text to include it as a list item.

[edit] Obtaining Video ID

Searching for an article on YouTube will give you a URL in the format of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=video id&search=search terms.

For example, if you search for the animated short "One Froggy Evening", you may get a video that results in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj_c5ZAIXbk&search=one%20froggy%20evening. In this particular example, the video ID would be yj_c5ZAIXbk.

Note: This video has been removed from youtube.com at the request of copyright owner Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc. because its content was used without permission.

[edit] Discussion

[edit] Image

I have removed the image, as Fair use images can't be used in Templates. I am not sure if this template is really useful, knowing that some videos in YouTube have copyright, it may encourage copyright violations (in example, people may add a YouTube template pointing to the latest X-Men 3 movie uploaded in YouTube). I am requesting comments from the External links section. -- ReyBrujo 03:19, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

  • If nothing else, a template will make it easier to find and delete links to copyright-violating YouTube links. :) —tregoweth (talk) 21:27, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This could get popular...

There is a lot of content at YouTube, especially relevant for media/entertainment. We might want to set some guidelines. On what is and is not appropriate. -- 75.24.211.225 23:19, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

The correct place for such discussion would be WP:EL. So far, what we can do is to replace any YouTube video link we find in articles with this template, so that if it is ruled YouTube videos should be deleted from Wikipedia, we can know where each is. Or to review the videos to see if there is some copyright problem with the link. -- ReyBrujo 23:27, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
A couple of fairly obvious guidelines: I am trying to not let the already-available content of YouTube effect the content of the encyclopedia. By that I mean, I am adding links if the page exists. I am mostly just doing songs. I prefer live performances to music videos. A good example is Elton John, where the pages really just cover his period of greatest success (the 1970's) but Sir John has done tons of less successful music, duets etc. An exception I made was for Hotel California, where I thought the progression of the song through the decades was worth taking a look at. Another such example might be Eric Clapton's Layla (the rare exception that a song is re-released and is successful). -- 67.119.195.218 23:18, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Please stop linking to songs... often these are copy-vios and we shouldn't be promoting that. ---J.S (t|c) 21:28, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Functional limitation...

This template only points to a single video at YouTube. There are other funcations such as searching based on keywords and show user profiles that neither it or similarly-named templates do not yet accomodate. -- 67.116.253.187 15:59, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I personally believe that pointing to a single video is good: if people want to link to many videos, they will have to use this template many times, which may allow us in the future to differentiate articles that are using this template once from those that are using it several times. Besides, we should never point to a user profile, as people would begin using it to point to their own profiles in order to get more "traffic" for their videos. Also, searching based on keywords is not really necessary: When you are adding an external link to an article, you don't give a link to a search on Google based on some terms, but instead to a specific page. -- ReyBrujo 16:16, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
One note about user profiles: There are some YouTube users who are either becoming internet memes in their own right or are bands that are actually presenting their music vids on YouTube. They are a small percentage of the YouTube community, but they are there. -- 67.116.253.187 16:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
In that case, the user or band will have to have a page in Wikipedia after his notability has been probed (either music or internet notability). In example, if the band does Alternative rock, we should not go to the article and add a link to the band's profile because they happen to play alternative rock. However, if the band becomes notable, in their Wikipedia page it would be fine to either manually add a link to the profile at YouTube without using the template, or add one YouTube template per every video they have in the section Videos of their article. -- ReyBrujo 17:12, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No more renames!

Somebody felt that it was necessary to rename Template:youtube to Template:YouTube. Sigh. Fine. I can fix up the hundreds if refs (since the person who did the renames did not do so). NO MORE RENAMES, NOW. Ya hear? -- PinkCake 02:25, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] YouTube links on wikipedia

YouTube is almost never a good source. There are currently 11,000 links from wikipedia and from my research a good part of them (10% or so) are actually being used as a source. Stop it. It's also not ok to link to copyrighted material. (see WP:EL) That seems to be more then 60% of the links I reviewed. This is a big problem. There is currently a discussion about this on the WP:AN. ---J.S (t|c) 21:24, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

However since it is currently July 7 that discussion is no longer available. Are you asserting that anything on youtube is copywritten and thus we cannot link to it? That might ought to be discussed in the template.Litch 17:03, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
An issue with using this template for source material is that there isn't an obvious way to use it with a reference template. Here's an example from Alberto Gonzales...
The third item works, and I think it is better since it clearly notes the host (YouTube) and the copyright holder and publisher (CNN). But, is it a good idea to combine the templates like this? Edurant 03:48, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Youtube: main site versus hot links

originally posted at Wikipedia talk:Citing sources#Youtube: main site versus hot links, but no response there.

An editor at Quixtar would like to use an old promotional video as a source. Youtube hosts the video, and at least two Quixtar-related websites hotlink to it - one site belongs to a supporter and the other to an opponent. There is no licensing information at any site. My view is that linking directly to Youtube is the most NPOV (if we need to use the video at all) though that doesn't address the copyright issue. The other editor is concerned that if we link directly to Youtube the link will be removed. Talk:Quixtar#Controversy. Any thoghts? -Will Beback · † · 01:28, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Minutes and seconds

I think it would be a good idea to add optional parameters to inform readers of the length of the video.--Ccson 16:01, 21 August 2007 (UTC)