Talk:Youth detention center

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

⚖
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Law, an attempt at providing a comprehensive, standardised, pan-jurisdictional and up-to-date resource for the legal field and the subjects encompassed by it.
??? This article has not yet received a quality rating on the assessment scale.
??? This article has not yet received an importance assessment on the assessment scale.

Here is an article concerning Serious issues with Juenile Corrections:http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050917/NEWS10/509170345/1002/NEWS - Z.Spy 19 September 2005 17:44

[edit] Criminal actions?

article cites "Its intended purpose is to protect the public from the criminal actions of minors by granting those minors secure detention and temporary care with intent, in most cases, to make those who serve time functioning adults in society."

Most states, Idaho being cited here, disallow the denomination of juveniles as criminals, crimes are referenced as acts under the purview of the juvenile justice act of 1974 and specifically note this difference. Additionally, in order to be "convicted" of a "crime" the suspect has the right to a trial by jury. A right not afforded to juveniles being tried under the purview of their respective states juveinle justice act. Definitions can be cited in Idaho code 20-502 §13.

Ajohnson353 00:12, 26 August 2006 (UTC)Adam Johnson

[edit] Merge?

I'm proposing merging Reform school and Reformatory into this page. To me they look like they all are overlapping concepts. However, I'm concerned there might be some slight differences between them that might justify seperate articles. So, as per the merge rules, if anyone agrees I'll perform the merge in a couple of weeks, if no one says anything I'll do it in four weeks. If there seems to be a consensus to not do a merge (or no clear consensus), I'll remove the templates (I don't know about anyone else, but merge templates that just sit there without anyone doing anything with them drive me up the wall). Curtangel 16:02, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merging with Reformatory

Reformatory might be synonymous with youth detention in the United States, but not in Canada and other parts of the world. As such, a merged article would not reflect the world view of the word reformatory. --Jeff Johnston 19:56, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

My suggestion was based on the definition of reformatory offered in the article itself -- in fact the article seems to suggest (to me at least) that the term is more common in this usage outside the United States. Living in the United States myself, I can't say that I personally see the words as synonomous. In fact, I think of it as being for adult institutions as well. I assumed this term was more common in other parts of the world in this manner and therefore appropriate. If no one else disagrees, I will not merge that article -- but it clearly needs to be expanded to a fuller explanation of what a reformatory is, because as it is it seems to suggest it is almost exclusively for youths. Curtangel 00:55, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
I support a merge, but perhaps with a title for the combined program that is not specific to a particular cultural usage and instead a categorical name like 'Juvenile Prison' or similar. That seems to me to be the descriptive category of all these articles. Or maybe something like that. Right now many related articles have overlapping content. Without lots of specific distinctions between them seems to make more sense as one high level article and then subarticles could be expanded if and when there is enough distinctions to be made. - Owlmonkey (talk) 19:10, 1 May 2008 (UTC)