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money

How the hell does youtube make money? They must be spending loads for all bandwidth they are using, yet I don't see a single advertisement on the entire site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.134.164.46 (talk) 22:31, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Commercial sponsors, and the fact that they're owned by Google. Calgary (talk) 17:37, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Video format

I Fact-tagged the TriD claim in this section as it implies youtube leave the file extension string, or the magic number, encoded in the FLV. Althoughh dubious, I guess anything's possible, but a cite would be nice. Then I noticed, and tagged, some other claims. I suppose the 300 kbps is an approximation because I can see up to 314kbit/s as of 2007-11-08, eg. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYbjnGWNoWo has 322279 bps. Also, and this may be too detailed for this article, didn't youtube previously allow both higher resolution and higher bit rates? I ask because "High resolution and high bitrate encoding test" at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIzqrDDQNSI has both 1119525 bps and 450 by 338 pixels. The linked Japanese article seems to be dated January 2007 with comments in August noting that youtube has now restricted videos to low bitrate. -Wikianon 20:24, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I would welcome a citation or other basis for the claim that "This technology [Sorenson Spark video codec] allows the site to display videos with quality comparable to more established video playback technologies". The technical quality of videos on youtube seems a lot worse than modern QT or WMA can offer. -- another anon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.181.252.178 (talk) 23:54, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

History

The part that says

"YouTube was created in mid-February 2005 by three former PayPal employees.[2] The San Bruno-based service uses Adobe Flash technology to display a wide variety of video content, including movie clips, TV clips and music videos, as well as amateur content such as videoblogging and short original videos. In October 2006, Google Inc. announced that it had reached a deal to acquire the company for US$1.65 billion in Google stock. The deal closed on November 13, 2006.[3]"

is currently in the intro. It would go much better in the history which currently just says "Main article: History of YouTube" and then jumps straight into "Domain name problem". Not a very inviting read for the History section, is it? --190.74.108.43 (talk) 14:00, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Hacking

There's have been several accounts that have been hacked on Youtube lately. Just take a look at this video[1].--67.87.66.127 (talk) 12:15, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I DEFINITELY think the subject of hacking deserves its own section in the article. It has been a major problem lately (lots of accounts have been hacked), and YouTube does NOTHING about it. On a side note, one of the hackers found an exploit to steal other people's user groups. I think that should be mentioned too. I'm the one who made that video by the way. TanookiMario257 (talk) 02:26, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Do y'all have any reliable sources you could cite supporting your assertions? --ElKevbo (talk) 03:13, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, here are some Google cached pages of hacked accounts (and they're not fake, as Google's caching feature copies the page exactly as it was):
iamachef (WARNING: Offensive images)
912cookie | (account prior to hacking)
spammer
spamming
viacom
sauskelover25 (WARNING: Seizure-inducing background) | (account prior to hacking)
NoSpammerRightsAgent | (account prior to hacking)
Animelover78 | (account prior to hacking)
itachi12123 | (account prior to hacking)
More hacked accounts: (note: in the first two cases below these users were able to get control of their accounts back)
Rct3man777
Sora444 | (bulletin from the real person concerning the hacking)
kurenai12 | (bulletin #2) | (bulletin #3) | (account prior to hacking) (Note: account was closed soon after that)
kaisblaze13 | (account prior to hacking)
super2funny | (account prior to hacking)
cody9994 | (account prior to hacking)
xmodscarbon —Preceding unsigned comment added by TanookiMario257 (talk • contribs) 02:03, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
That's quite a bit... and that isn't even all of them. There were a few more, but Google didn't cache of all of them. TanookiMario257 (talk) 14:49, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I know one. Theres one named roflcopter4 hacking mostly Thomas Fans. He is a Racist Guy and how he hacked them, He was posing as the Youtube Administrator called TheYootubeTeam and asked people for their passwords and it was quite obviously roflcopter because the one that was sent to me was titled you fags cant stop me! Most of my Friends are Gone. He announced to everyone through bulletins that he was Roflcopter4! - Bladez636 (talk · contribs)

One of the Barış Akarsu - Islak Islak videos was removed on September because of hacking. The video was the most discussed video of all time with close to 200,000 comments. Many of these comments has acquired after Akarsu's death. OnurTcontribs 19:21, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Just got a phishing scam today: [2] TanookiMario257 22:40, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
This all original research which is not appropriate, what we need our verifiable, reliable sources please. Thanks, SqueakBox 22:49, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

YouRipper and timeline issues

I feel there should definitely be a mentioning in the section regarding formatting into .FLV files of the illegal-but-widely-available freeware YouRipper, which allows users to simply download YouTube videos directly onto their computers by copying the video URL into the filepath box and saving them as Adobe Flash Videos under the filename ".FLV" after which they can rename it and, in the absence of a media player that can stream .FLV files on your desktop, can convert to another format, or simply upload to any website that permits said file extension, including Myspace, which many users in fact do. YouRipper essentially reverses YouTube's formatting when it rips. It should be noted that there are other softwares out there capable of this. I believe Mozilla Firefox can also accomplish this.

Also, in "#On YouTube," the sentence, "Beginning in June 2007, newly uploaded videos will also be encoded using the H.264 video standard to enable streaming of YouTube videos on the Apple TV and the iPhone." is quite obviously outdated and needs simple revision to past tense from future tense.

Thanks, Alan --24.184.184.177 16:52, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Porn?

I have never known youtube to allow porn on thier site, yet I found a link to porn today and amessage stating that a cnn report disclosed youtube's intention of permitting pornographic material on their site. Is any of this true, and if so why do I not see any mention of it in the article? 75.39.197.219 (talk) 05:28, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Well. YouTube isn't allowing it. They're trying their best to delete all the stripper's accounts + videos and pornographic material. The thing that bothers me is that one of the most viewed videos is a XXX porno film. BrianD1996 (talk) 12:54, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Can it be cited as a source?

There has been a discussion as to whether or not it can be used as an additional source. Is there?--Hourick (talk) 17:44, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

flagging

Why no mention of flagging? A video can be flagged without stating of proving a reason why it should be and this cannot be reversed. I remember a FOB video was flagged when as appropiate and this was not reversedYVNP (talk) 18:57, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

InVideo ads

This should be added into the article:

http://www.webtvwire.com/why-youtube-embedded-advertisements-will-fail-invideo-ads-are-distracting/

http://www.webtvwire.com/youtube-experiments-with-embedded-in-video-advertisements-here-to-stay/

The articles talk about the "InVideo" ads, which pop up from the bottom of the video, and stay for about 20 seconds, unless the user closes them.

Here is an example of an embedded advertisement in action. After 15 seconds, you will notice a random advertisement pop up from the bottom of the video screen.

70.121.29.89 (talk) 00:21, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Nazi Videos on you tube

Yesterday CNN International had a report about the massive use of youtube by Neo-Nazi organizations to showcase old propaganda videos of the Nazi-era and to reach new groups of people. CNN and many German newspapers and TV-reports brought the videos to the attention of youtube, but to no anvail - youtube still keeps them online. Therefore the Germen Zentralrat der Juden is going to sue youtube now. My question is, how do we get this CNN report as a source? There are many German sources about this topic, but the CNN report was extremly detailed and therefore I would like to use it, as primary reference. --noclador (talk) 07:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Found it http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2007/12/17/pleitgen.neo.nazis.on.you.tube.cnn --noclador (talk) 08:12, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

youtube on tv?

Think the idea of Youtube Getting a tv station will get off the ground? If so, will the idea go international? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.228.27.154 (talk) 19:13, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

How does Youtube get money?

I was just on the site and didn't see any commercials or what so ever. How do they make money? Traffic?

I'm uploading a video right now and am looking at an ad for the Ford '08 Escape, so my guess eould be advertising + traffic.
For the first time I saw advertisements in full-screen mode. They only were there for a few seconds, and you could get rid of them by clicking on the x, but I think they have finally started to ad actual advertisements for you to see while watching videos. 74.38.86.119 (talk) 18:16, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Broadcast Yourself

Anyone Else noticed that it has been removed from the logo?Veggieburgerfish (talk) 01:29, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Copyright Material

Anyone know how well Youtube enforces its copyright policy? In my opinion not so well considering that many anime shows and music videos are posted and not removed. Along with full length movies Rk589 (talk) 23:15, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Youtube does a very poor job enforcing its copyright rule, as indicated by these:


But with no reliable third party source, we can't post anything about it. SkepticBanner (talk) 06:33, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Found something [[3]] looks like something thats related maybe a senior member could consider some info? Rk589 (talk) 02:42, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

What are you talking about? They are doing a horrible job with copyright stuff. And not because they aren't removing enough videos. The fact that they ARE removing videos. Arogi Ho (talk) 02:14, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Quote from the article: Despite this, a large amount of potentially infringing content continues to be uploaded (e.g., television shows/clips, film clips, commercials, music videos, music concerts, M.U.G.E.N, emulator hacks, or games republished onto another system such as PSP). (Emphasis mine) As far as I know, YouTube is a video uploading service. This sounds like it was possible to upload software or other file types. Did the author actually mean that you could upload (copyright-infringing) games, hacks etc. (and if so, how is that possible?), or did they mean video clips of such? Either way, some clarification on this point would be nice. It's quite confusing to me as a non-native English speaker, and I'm reluctant to change it right away. 87.79.215.175 (talk) 13:58, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

It'd be better if they did allow copyright videos. Arogi Ho (talk) 01:48, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, just take a look right at this bulletin right here:[[4]]67.87.66.127 (talk) 21:34, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

2007 Primary US Presidential Debates

I didnt see any mention about the debates done with CNN. It should be worth a mention. First time supposed people had a chance to ask questions (I say supposed because CNN did "screen" them and some of them turned out to be operatives from other campaigns). Arnabdas (talk) 16:33, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

External Tools

Apart from

  • SaveTube
  • YouTube Search and Downloader
  • YouTube Catcher
  • Qooqle Labs
  • ViLoader

For windows exists a useful tool called YoutubeCrazyVideos 2. It is a complete desktop pack or suite (... Youtube search, Online Player,Audio extractor,Video Downloader, Local flv player, and so on...) that runs on windows without any spyware or malware that improves the youtube experience.

Should we add YoutubeCrazyVideos 2 as a 3td party tool? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.59.58.238 (talk) 18:23, 2 January 2008 (UTC)


YouTube Name

Dose anyone know Where or How Jawed Karim ((he rocks)) and the other 2 came up with the name YouTube? Shadowbean 20:40, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

How come no one has anwsered this question? I desperately want to know how they came up with the name YouTube! If anyone knows please type how they got the name in the article. Shadowbean (talk) 07:59, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

"Tube" word came from CRT as broadcasting I think. OnurTcontribs 17:59, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Spam

Me myself have reported there some animal-abuse videos and most of all, in my school a few asked me if they can have my phone to film some fight, which I accepted, however later on I removed it from my phone but others on school used their mobile for the fights and I don't know if they have uploaded this on Youtube or not. --Flesh-n-Bone 11:28, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

so?? what's that got to do with ANYTHING!?????(211.31.189.93 (talk) 13:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC))

I'm just saying it, as such stuff are mentioned. --Flesh-n-Bone 12:19, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

New I found another spammer (lolSPAMloll) is the username, can anyone tell me how to report this one? He kept writing nasty comments in my user page. --Flesh-n-Bone 12:15, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/request.py, Report Abuse - Spam and contact YouTube team. OnurTcontribs 19:34, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


Universities on youtube

With the increased use of educators to use youtube as a medium of distributing their lectures, i think that there should be a wiki listing the universities with youtube channels. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.82.51.28 (talk) 16:02, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

RACISM

I must reveal that Youtube has numerous racist videos, and such things promote hatred and violence toward race, ethnics and color. My view seems to be shared by at least 1 other user, as you can see from the first Racism section above. Here is the evidence:

[5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] [25] [26]

I beg all of you to consider putting this in the article. Please consider well. Thank you very much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aidoflight (talk • contribs) November 18 2007

Racists exist? What's your point? 82.112.142.123 (talk) 18:10, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, it's been said before, but...reliable sources. If you can confirm that your view has recieved significant attention from reliable third party sources then it can go in. Otherwise...Calgary (talk) 17:39, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
How is "America Sucks" and "Canadian Idiot" racist? Arogi Ho (talk) 16:11, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

If I were post the n-word in this forum would that be making Wikipedia racist? Your logic is terrible. Please grasp the concept of user-submission before bringing your claim back up. Dkkicks (talk) 03:54, 15 December 2007 (UTC) That is not true. This person is probably trying to excercise the point that youtube is eligible to post racist material.Iceberg2229 (talk)` —Preceding comment was added at 15:23, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Article split?

Does anyone think we should split the social impact section into a new article called "Social impact of YouTube"? This is page is already 62 kilobytes long. If no one responds within a week, I'll go ahead and do it. Noah¢s (Talk) 21:00, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

yah, i think that is too large.--Aristotle58 (talk) 16:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)-Aristotle58

M!$$ $c()oBy 2 U #@+!N #()3$ K@k@ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.251.46.139 (talk) 21:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

YouTube videos on Wikipedia

Other wikis (such as Uncylopedia or Encyclopedia Dramatica) are able to paste Youtube videos directly into their articles. Is there a way that can be done on Wikipedia? --Ye Olde Luke (talk) 03:12, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

In Turkey

The ban has been lifted, please update the article --88.241.65.126 (talk) 19:54, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Anthony Anderson

I don't think it's the same guy. We should note that. Otherwise, we have a serious libel case on our hands. Justin(c)(u) 16:45, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

That section isn't written well. It's obviously some other Anthony Anderson. I removed the name to eliminate consufion. Cool Hand Luke 19:31, 1 February 2008 (UTC)


Video Statistics

At the end of the first section, someone wrote "As of January 6, 2008 , a YouTube search for "*" returns about 64,000,000 videos (the asterisk is a commonly used wildcard character in search engines, therefore showing all videos)[6]. On January 2, the number was 61.7 million, showing an average of 825,000 new videos every day the past 4 days." Today is January 12, 2008 (6 days since the claim) and a * search comes up with 64,100,000 videos. That means a 100,000 increase in the past 6 days. Maybe there was just higher than usual uploading between the 2nd and 6th, so the 825,000/day claim really shouldn't be in the article because no one has proof of that. I'm new to editing, so I guess that's why I'm not able to change this particular article myself?--AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 11:47, 12 January 2008 (UTC) Let me rephrase, it shouldn't be in the article because it makes it look like youtube adds 825,000 videos a day, not that the actual number mentioned didn't take place.--AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 11:48, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm also having an issue with this statistics statement... I don't think that it is valid to approximate the number of videos using the wildcard for the following reason: At the time of writing, the wild card search gave me 62 800 000, but using the letter "v", I got 63 700 000... I did not edit the article because I only wanted to point out the problem and have a discussion about it.
A little suggestion. I think it could be possible to evaluate, maybe even have the exact number number of videos on YouTube by using a script that would test all possible combinations of caracters that YT uses to identify videos. That's 11 caracters, ranging from A to Z, a to z, 0 to 9, dash and underscore. By testing each url for a valid page instead of a "video not available" page, we might be able to know the real number. I know that would be about 73 786 976 294 838 206 464 combinations to test, but it's just a thought... So, anyone wanna try?Smumdax (talk) 22:41, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps the discrepancy in total videos and the rate at which that are uploaded has something to do with Youtube deleting many videos that violate copyrights. Maybe some days more videos are removed than others affecting the rate in growth of the total number of videos. The current count on Feb 1 is 67.7 million...so it seems that over the last month about 4 million were added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.183.200.150 (talk) 16:18, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

It would be interesting if we could add demographics and statistics to most areas like, how many users actually post videos, how many video's the average user posts, and things like that... I haven't yet looked for sources but it would be an interesting addition I think.--Sparkygravity (talk) 15:27, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Youtube mods

jih\ —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAmericanUhate (talk • contribs) 21:46, 13 January 2008 (UTC) lolwut?--Axe995 (talk) 03:10, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

YouChoob or YouToob?

Is it pronounced YouChoob or YouToob? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roxy2k7 (talk • contribs) 07:50, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I believe this depends on the person and/or their regional accent, so both are correct. Kind of like how some people say "Toosday" and others "Chewsday" for "Tuesday". • Supāsaru 14:34, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

HD Controversy

Recently there was a breakthrough regarding uploading High Quality videos to Youtube as shown here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiQRCbdhh6o

If you look at the sidebar, you'd find that the method no longer works. I thought it might be noteworthy to add this into the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.171.123.60 (talk) 20:41, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, and what do you mean by controversy? The people finding out how to put higher quality videos than 320*240 is in no way controversial or bad. It kinda sucks that it no longer works. Youtube had no reason to change it. Arogi Ho (talk) 22:53, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

  • In general, I just thought it would be good to incorporate, but I'm having trouble finding sources to back up what happened, or the circumstances. 72.234.254.153 (talk) 04:23, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

you CAN avoid youtubes re-encoding of your videos

It seems to me, that no one right here knows that: Uploaded videos which are in flv-format and have an average bitrate below or equal to 350kbit/s don't get re-encoded! So you can retain any resolution (for example 480x360, which is the size of the flash-player-window) and use any mp3-stream (for example cd-quality 128kbit/s with 44.1kHz/stereo). I recommend Mencoder. In the post above this one they said, that youtube recently removed such a feature. But that's not true. For testing-purposes I uploaded a custom-flv-video before some minutes and it still works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AlCAFC5ZOI —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.193.249.214 (talk) 12:51, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Nice sound quality. I guess they did something to prevent the 11 minutes hex cheat and nobody noticed they still could upload High Quality vids.- Master Bigode from SRK.o//(Talk) (Contribs) 15:03, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
It looks alright, but it's not as clear as what HD tricks could do. In addition, this vid explains how that method works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC2EPfsfllI . I'll consider adding in your bit, though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by EvilThouther (talk • contribs) 20:01, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Censorship Section Removed

The following was posted, and I have deleted due to it not being well-written, sounding biased, probably not being true, and not being cited at any rate. Edit it with sources if you have them. Theonejanitor (talk) 07:06, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Censorship

YouTube is known for censoring certain content themselves. This includes the temporary disabling of PerezHilton's account. Recently on February 10, 2008, YouTube is attempting to silence Chris Crocker's account by removing him from the most subscribed list even though he should be #10 for having over 92,000 subscibers. Crocker's video entitled "Gay HATE on YouTube" was posted on February 8 quickly rose to #1 most viewed daily having over 700,000 views. YouTube has removed him from the most viewed daily list, from #1 to nothing. Crocker claims that YouTube does not support him, and did not want him garnering more attention, first being his "Leave Britney Alone!" video.

Censorship of February 10th Protests against Church of Scientology

Could someone please review the material at the following URL and decide whether it is worth mentioning under the "censorship" section? The website is fairly reputable and contains a decent quantity of evidence.

http://ipower.movielol.org/youtube-anon.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.149.189.120 (talk) 03:34, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

This is more legitimate than the Chirs Croker incident. That turned out to be a site error when he changed his icon. The view count freeze seems to have affected a lot of videos, even one by MRirian who is a Youtube partner, and doesn't even speak in her latest video! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.206.124.190 (talk) 06:02, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Stupid content shit

Why do yu in this article even have youtube CONTENT in it???? Youtube has everything, and alot of everything, remove the content parts and just tell what youtube is about, and maybe whats negative with it which leads to ppl uploading violent vids and shit, ive seen people DYING on youtube, why dont u write about that, too much to write about, stupid

Utube

In the section "History of Youtube," it is worth noting that since then, the tubing company website has moved from utube.com to utubeonline.com in response to the increased trafic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.116.222.46 (talk) 02:11, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, utube.com is now a squatted domain. The domain name problem section needs to be updated.


Tom Dickson

Should we add Tom Dickson the creator of Blend tech ?

Political Section

Makes reference to Hiliary and Obama in a way that can be construed as negative. I recommened deleting the names of the two. I would do it myself, but the Temple University WLAN won't allow it for some reason.

Slideshows of Official Renders of Characters

Hmmm....if anyone did slideshows of official renders of characters, are you sure that he or she should ask the owner's permission first? How they would ask is if they at least logged into the company website. --PJ Pete

Brazil

Though there was a court order to block youtube in brazil, it was never enforced, not a single day went by that the website was down. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.246.169.242 (talk) 16:54, August 20, 2007 (UTC)

Greate place for hate videos

There are so many xenophobic, nazi and antisemitic videos. Just type in Youtube search russian nazi or something like this and you'll get many hate videos. -Unknown

I want to further add to your point regarding japanese right wings. I recently found out a lot of japanese right wing activists' propaganda. Frequent denial on nanking massacre and anti chinese videos were common. Those acts were clearly consistent with japanese right wing's philosophy. Also there were videos related to historical revisionism.

At the same time there were anti-japanese propaganda by chinese and koreans. Those often exchange fire with the japanese counterparts and cause great consternation to the general public. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.21.154.111 (talk) 07:36, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

That is not all you can find loads of radical muslims posting snuff filsm, muhajadeen, suicide bomb videos all from msulism on Ytube this is a huge problem it disgusts me. Youtube is all biased against those who criticize anything Islamic. Muslims run falgging campaigns and abuse the so-called flaggin function just to suspend anyone. But yet, youtube keeps Al-Quaida snuper vids up depsite the leigitmate claims. YouTube has a huge problwem with this among the neo-nazis, and of course don;t forget Islam hates Jews which goes hand and hand with it.(---Anonymous) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.223.182.114 (talk) 23:09, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Seems here that everyone is trying to use this discussion as a forum page, not the point of this page. RodolfoWong (talk) 17:03, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Politics?

I believe it'd be fair to mention Youtube's dabbling into the world of politics over the past few months, especially in its blog section. Sure the thing in Burma is terrible, but is it in the nature of Youtube a place that hosts videos (mostly of Californian kids butchering the art of video, let's face it) to highlight things its main target demographic won't have a clue about? And then there's the presidential candidate debate thing, again surely a fair chunk of users are underaged to vote anyway. What is Youtube trying to prove? - Godawful023

Suggestion to Delete the Section on "Economy of YouTube"

I suggest deleting this section that was originally created by me and never modified substantially by somebody else. I have expertise in this field myself and besides citing myself (which is a rule for Wikpedia articles if you have expertise and draw from your own published knowledge) I prior cited other works in the same section. My contribution was considered as spam by some because I cite myself. I don't agree with this, but can understand the argument. But overall I think that if just Tapscott and Williams are cited here, then this is narrow-minded because it leaves out other views which is not my intention and is unbalanced. If anybody finds the economy section important, then please heavily edit and expand it, the current form is not sufficient, it doesn't satisfy NPOV because it heavily promotes one position (Tapscott/Williams) although others are in existence, but not cited and mentioned here. This discussion was a result of my creation of the economy section: Please take a look here and consider contributing/mediating the conflict that has arisen here. User talk: Crscrs.


500 Internal Server Error

Many people are getting this error ("500 Internal Server Error") lately along with a message about highly trained monkeys being dispatched to fix the problem. However, the problem has persisted for several days now, which points to either the severity of the problem, or youtube (and Google) engineering's inability to remedy the situation, or both. I think this problem should be included in the main article to comment on youtube's technology. Todd (talk) 19:39, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

  • It's working fine here 72.234.254.153 (talk) 04:27, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
    • Thank you for this very helpful message, 72.234.254.153!!! (PS: Don't bother to sign up as a user.)

youtube

Youtube is very fun place to watch funny and sad exciting ect. vedios but it can be danrous. So don't make a vedio were you live and who old you are because,thats not very safe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.4.179.105 (talk) 21:37, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

This is freakin' truth. --63.212.164.234 (talk) 22:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Pakistan Blocks YouTube

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7261727.stm

Did it apparently because it was showing images of Muhammad and insulting the Islamic faith.

65.255.147.8 (talk) 19:27, 24 February 2008 (UTC) (VONV)

More references for Pakistan incident

I wanted to add these URLs as references but the page is locked:

Technical summary by Alex Pilosov on the network operators' mailing list nanog: http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg06384.html

Technical timeline: http://www.renesys.com/blog/2008/02/pakistan_hijacks_youtube.shtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.46.209.99 (talk) 15:36, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

YouTube hijacked

YouTube has mysteriously not responded lately.

"DNS highjackers have effectively blocked YouTube globally by gaining control of the root domain record. whois youtube.com returns a poisoned record: disruptive:~ stevey$ whois youtube.com

Whois Server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net/ for detailed information.

YOUTUBE.COM.ZZZZZ.GET.LAID.AT.WWW.SWINGINGCOMMUNITY.COM YOUTUBE.COM.MORE.INFO.AT.WWW.BEYONDWHOIS.COM YOUTUBE.COM.IS.N0T.AS.1337.AS.WWW.GULLI.COM YOUTUBE.COM

Traceroute to www.youtube.com shows packets disappearing into a Hong Kong ISP, PCCW Telecom. "

(from a Slashdot post)

http://samspade.org/whois/youtube.com

Tracerouting youtube.com just stops at my ISP's routers (TeliaSonera) with time outs.

--nlitement [talk] 19:30, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Whois Server Version 2.0 
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered 
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net 
for detailed information. 
   Server Name: YOUTUBE.COM.ZZZZZ.GET.LAID.AT.WWW.SWINGINGCOMMUNITY.COM 
   IP Address: 69.41.185.205 
   Registrar: INNERWISE  INC. D/B/A ITSYOURDOMAIN.COM 
   Whois Server: whois.itsyourdomain.com 
   Referral URL: http://www.itsyourdomain.com 
   Server Name: YOUTUBE.COM.MORE.INFO.AT.WWW.BEYONDWHOIS.COM 
   IP Address: 203.36.226.2 
   Registrar: TUCOWS INC. 
   Whois Server: whois.tucows.com 
   Referral URL: http://domainhelp.opensrs.net 
   Server Name: YOUTUBE.COM.IS.N0T.AS.1337.AS.WWW.GULLI.COM 
   IP Address: 80.190.192.39 
   Registrar: KEY-SYSTEMS GMBH 
   Whois Server: whois.rrpproxy.net 
   Referral URL: http://www.key-systems.net 
   Domain Name: YOUTUBE.COM 
   Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS  LLC. 
   Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com 
   Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com 
   Name Server: DNS1.SJL.YOUTUBE.COM 
   Name Server: DNS2.SJL.YOUTUBE.COM 
   Status: clientDeleteProhibited 
   Status: clientTransferProhibited 
   Status: clientUpdateProhibited 
   Updated Date: 01-nov-2006 
   Creation Date: 15-feb-2005 
   Expiration Date: 15-feb-2009 
>>> Last update of whois database: Sun  24 Feb 2008 19: 06: 03 UTC <<<

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.210.47.67 (talk) 20:01, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Appearing on digg.com too: http://digg.com/tech_news/Youtube_Offline_3; this may be notable. If this really is a DNS hijacking case, well ... vow! --77.4.227.252 (talk) 20:38, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


According to OpenDNS, "Youtube.com is down right now because Pakistan Telecom has decided to (accidentally probably) hijack their IP address space which means that nobody in the world can reach Youtube. This isn’t an OpenDNS issue. Just letting you all know. "

Regarding the "YOUTUBE.COM.ZZZZZ.GET.LAID.AT.WWW.SWINGINGCOMMUNITY.COM" etc. in the whois, they have always been there —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.13.98 (talk) 20:55, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

YouTube's downtime was caused by a BGP misconfiguration, which allowed Pakistani ISP PieNet to advertise a more specific and bogus route for youtube.com's IP addresses. See here and here for details. Andareed (talk) 09:37, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

New Area

I think that we should add a new place called Most Famous Youtube VIdeos —Preceding unsigned comment added by Birdy541 (talk • contribs) 00:03, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Help with vanadlism

Recently there was some vanadlsim with content removed. [[27]]. Most of the content has been restroed howerever the catagroies have not been added back. Since I can't edit the page myself can someone plese fix this. --76.71.210.13 (talk) 01:25, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Fixed. DiverseMentality (talk) 02:20, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Politics Section

At the end of the section it implies that John Howard is the prime minister of Australia when in fact he is the former PM. Please change this?

78.151.123.219 (talk) 20:00, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Done. --Esanchez(Talk 2 me or Sign here) 20:05, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Repetition

From the page:

Cory Williams (aka Mr. Safety of smpfilms) is the host of the first national television show to spawn from video bloggers. It's a "best of the net" type show called The FIZZ[97] on DirecTV channel 101 in the United States.[98] on DirecTV channel 101.

DirecTV channel 101 in the United States on DirecTV channel 101...? 163.192.21.44 (talk) 05:23, 6 March 2008 (UTC)


Taken care of. DiverseMentality (talk) 05:29, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Islamotube

A thing being discussed on youtube as of late are militant Jihadist groups which flag videos critical of Islam in droves, getting the creator's account suspended. This has led to a lot of people calling it "islamotube" and "muslimtube". Should a new section be created on the page for this?

VinTheMetalhed (talk) 20:11, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Direct access tot he uploaded flv

it woudl be interestign if there was at elast a mention ont he article about the possbiility to download the flv files, what Youtube has done to prevent that and such. Even if the article won't mention the exact techiniques used to reach the files, having the possibility of doing it aswell as the reasons why Youtube tries to make it hard would be somthing I woudl think would add much to the article in terms of quality and usch --TiagoTiago (talk) 13:15, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

most viewed

its now css, music is my hot hot sex. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.241.8.147 (talk) 19:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Ripping YouTube vids

Can we please include a section on ripping youtube vids? This is a big thing, and doesn't violate the terms of YouTube or Google. I guess it's the advantage of YouTube over other video sites. http://tubezaa.com/ is a good site which does this (there are a whole list of them). What are peoples thoughts? 130.220.153.164 (talk) 12:24, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Youtube Poop

We need a section on Youtube Poop. Definitely. They're the things I watch when I'm feeling down and they make it all better. If you don't understand what a Youtube Poop is then type in 'Youtube Poop' in the search bar on Youtube and pick one. Some think they are a random assortment of clips, some think they are awesome. I am one of those people who enjoy them. Please do not delete my post, I am doing my best not to have a POV here...--Editor510 (talk) 16:25, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Most notable channels

What about to write a list of most notable channels on YouTube?--Kozuch (talk) 20:09, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Banning or Blocking?

Have renamed the section Banning to Blocking, 'cause they block access to YouTube and I think they are not able to ban YouTube. xeryus (talk) 01:00, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Redirects

Can we change the page so that searching for "Youtube awards" redirects to the YouTube Awards page, and not to the YouTube page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.95.36.13 (talk) 18:09, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Chain letters section

Don't remove it because there are chain letters on Youtube. Claimgoal (talk) 01:52, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Featured videos have been rick rolled

It's April Fools Day and YouTube has been hacked

User:DMRiggs —Preceding unsigned comment added by DMRiggs (talk • contribs) 09:12, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Stupid locked article. Here's a ref for the [citation needed]

<ref>{{cite news | last =Arrington| first =Michael| title =YouTube RickRolls Users| work =TechCrunch| date =[[March 31]], [[2008]]| url =http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/31/youtube-rickrolls-users/| accessdate = 2008-04-01 }}</ref>

124.169.171.74 (talk) 12:41, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Chain letters

Get rid of the chain letters section; there's absolutely no reason for it to be there. It looks childish. Come one, just look at those.. 72.200.27.179 (talk) 02:01, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

I removed the content. Childish indeed. DiverseMentality (talk) 02:49, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

YouTube History

I'm not a wikipedia commentor or editor but I saw this article was lacking on the history of the founding of the company which seems like pretty interesting and important info.

See this time magazine article about the history of youtube here's link —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.125.157.64 (talk) 20:06, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Is it in the article? (not word for word but as a refence.)(58.170.24.143 (talk) 03:02, 8 March 2008 (UTC)) Let me add something in this article that youtube also provides videos sharing on your website. Through this you can add multiple videos upon your website. But the videos that are locked by users can't be shared on your website.


Here are the major examples which you can see about http://www.paktubevideos.com

this website also has some forums which they very well utilized for youtube videos discussion forums

http://forums.paktubevideos.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.82.59.56 (talk) 11:37, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

"Spamming" section full of OR

I would suggest we scrap almost everything in the section on "Spamming", as it is too lengthy to be relevant to the purpose of the site (videos and social networking) and is line after line of unsourced WP:OR. Ironiridis 15:19, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Youtube Quality Tweak

Almost every Youtube user (if not all) have realized how horrible the video qualities are. Almost no matter how high the video quality is before a user uploads the video, it turns bad right when it is uploaded. People want to watch videos with high quality right? Well, fortunately there's a way to make them about 3 times better than the original video was. Explanation:

1. Find a youtube video. 2. Open the video. 3. At the end of the video url, add "&fmt=18" (this is what makes the video quality better) 4. Refresh the page make sure the &fmt=18 is still in the URL, if not, copy and paste the URL with the &fmt=18 at the end into your browser, and enjoy good quality videos.

Example:

1. Regular youtube video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=QSIFvtn1uHA 2. Better quality of same video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=QSIFvtn1uHA&fmt=18

Notice the difference? Enjoy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sortmasivci (talk • contribs) 20:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

The creepy video?

I dont know to much about it. Id like to though. Anyone know anything about it and if its worth noting in the wikipedia page. Its that video that was like 2 minuets and it had no ip address and no one knows who uploaded it. Anyone know more about it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omgtkkyb1992 (talk • contribs) 22:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure I have any idea what you are talking about. AtaruMoroboshi (talk) 15:16, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

New YouTube Logo?

I don't know if it's just temporary or if it's permanent, but the YouTube logo is different. It has the same style but the rectangle around the "Tube" part looked like a map instesd of being red. Anyone know anything about this? Ogdens (talk) 15:11, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

It's a one off logo. Its only there because today is Earth Day.Samaster1991 (talk) 15:46, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Not to mention it's a Google property. Google usually puts up a special logo for events like this. Pacific Coast Highway {Spring • ahead!} 16:38, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

new logo

Hey, youtubes got a new logo, we should change it from the one Wikipedia has right now —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.126.130.26 (talk) 20:35, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Cost per month and day

~Guys ref number 4 says "YouTube spends roughly $1 million a day" and thats a blog (March 25, 2008,) whilst businessweek gives a in an article " Current estimates range from $900,000 to $1.5 million per month" SEPTEMBER 18, 2006Megistias (talk) 22:35, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

It's CNNMoney.com, the blog is subject to editorial oversight. [28] I'd note that given the exponential growth of youtube over the last several years, its entirely plausible that the the cost of hosting and bandwith rose so significantly. It is the most recent of the two article, from a notable verified source. It should stand. AtaruMoroboshi (talk) 15:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
So it went from 12 million per year costs that are losses at the same time to 365 million per year costs that are losses as well?Megistias (talk) 11:17, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure about your synthesis - but from the article here it clearly states

"However, delivering all those free video clips isn’t cheap. YouTube sends a staggering 1,000 gigabytes of data every second, or nearly 300 billion GBs each month. Several industry insiders estimate that YouTube spends roughly $1 million a day just to pay for the bandwidth to host the videos. By that number, YouTube downloads would account for roughly 3% of Google’s $11.5 billion operating costs for 2007."

A cost of operation does not necessarily equal a financial loss. AtaruMoroboshi (talk) 12:54, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Its just that they were not making profits yet as youtube they links say.So they truly spend the 1 mill per day today?Megistias (talk) 13:03, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

CoS circumvents YouTube's TOS.

Please read in the link below how the Scientology has circumvented YouTube's TOS:

http://glosslip.com/2008/04/30/with-enough-money-you-can-circumvent-youtubes-tos-on-banned-accounts/

This needs to be added to the main article to show YouTube's corruption. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.183.106.150 (talk) 17:28, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

YouTube rolls out Scientology double standard

Quite an interesting double standard, indeed. Cirt (talk) 14:39, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Anyone going to do anything about this on the wiki?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.183.106.150 (talk) 18:19, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Youtube outage?

Is youtube server down for maintaince or something? I cannot see any videos. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MidNiteNeko (talk • contribs) 12:39, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, me and a number of friends do not have access to the site. It is apparently completely down; reason unknown--FeanorStar7 (talk) 13:18, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
It's a DNS issue... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.121.114.29 (talk) 13:31, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Is it Pakistan blocking access again?Norgy (talk) 14:26, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Thought it was just me. Curious. I doubt this is of any significance to the article though AtaruMoroboshi (talk) 16:18, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
See also: [29]. It looks like there were some technical problems for an hour or so. --♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 20:22, 3 May 2008 (UTC)