Talk:You've Got a Friend

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[edit] Unnecessary infoboxes

There is absolutely no reason whatsoever for every single artist who has covered a song to then have an infobox on that page. There are more appropriate venues.Awotter (talk) 04:11, 30 December 2007 (UTC)


You are arguing against an established practice on wikipedia. Please take a look at most major artist pages - everyone from Britney Spears to Mariah Carey to even now diminished artists like Brandy. They ALL have singles chronologies (infoboxes) on every one of their song pages which were released as singles. I don't think you understand how these infoboxes work. On every page devoted to a single by a particular artist - it offers on the bottom an infobox that links to the preceding (and following) single. Occasionally an artist may cover a song as a single and so the singles chronology will include a cover.

First off it's not that every entertainer who has ever recorded that song gets their own infobox - anyone who has recorded it of note should be mentioned, but ONLY THOSE WHO RELEASED IT AS A SINGLE should get an infobox as part of the singles chronology which again is an established practice on wikipedia. You say there are more "appropriate venues" to put those infoboxes without realizing that taking them off that page totally disrupts the singles chronology, thus for example someone who is on the single page preceding "You've got a friend" will be totally lost as you've broken the chain of singles which others have worked hard in a collaborative effort to establish (and I didn't even make it!)

Again, regardless of your opinion, it's an established practice on wikipedia: like I said take a look at other artists' pages. First take a look at non remake/cover pages to see the singles chronologies: example: Love Takes Time by Mariah carey (notice the infobox on the right which leads to her next singles, and also preceding single.

But now you want to argue about the covers? Well if you'll notice how the infobox works, by following the single chronology consecutively - it leads up single by single to her first remake/cover "I'll be there" which she covered from the Jackson 5. You can see that here: I'll be there <--- omg gasp, there's separate infoboxes for Jackson 5 vs Mariah! because it's NECESSARy. You can't put mariah's infobox elsewhere if she released that as a single as it's absolutely necessary for her singles chronology, otherwise you would disrupt the chronology and someone following it wouldn't have a link to go when they reached the single preceding her cover of "I'll be there", hence the entire chronology is useless!

You can check the pages of most major artists to realize they all have singles chronologies and thus all have infoboxes INCLUDING for covers/remakes, so regardless of your opinion you are arguing against an established practice on wikipedia, which in fact involves a huge exhaustive and collaborative effort. I invite you to go and look for yourself on major popular/recorded songs that have been remade by many artists. Everything from Right Here Waiting to Endless Love (song) or How Do I Live or on pages of artists still big like Madonna or Alicia Keys to more obscure artists or those whose careers have already diminished, you'll notice a similar pattern with singles chronologies. Thank you!Celinefanatictocorrector (talk) 17:53, 30 December 2007 (UTC)