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[edit] Simchat Torah

Hi! What was your reason for removing references to hard alcohol? The references were sourced. Like it or not, it is a [[WP{N|notable]] custom. See WP:NOT#CENSORED. Best, --Shirahadasha 02:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome back

Hi Yoninah: Bruchim HaBaim it is a true joy to see you editing. May Hashem grant you the strength and wisdom (and enjoyment!) to continue doing so. Wow, it's great having you here. IZAK 08:57, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Massacre of Uman

Hi Yoninah: User TShilo12 (talk · contribs) asked me a question about Massacre of Uman and perhaps someone here can help him out. The qustion he asks is: "I just listened to a program of Gavriel Aryeh Sanders' (http://www.gavrielsanders/com/) on Uman, and went and looked up the city article, and found a link to this article, which seems to have no references and a lot of weaselwording. I don't know whose attention it would be best to bring this to, to effect some improvement, so I'm hoping that by bringing it to your attention, that you will know whom best to contact." Please contact User:TShilo12 if you are able to help him. Thank you, IZAK 05:21, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

  • Hi again Yoninah: Thanks for making the effort to answer User:TShilo12 who will no doubt appreciate it (as soon as he logs back on) and will be most grateful to you. All your efforts are truly appreciated. We need more of your time and expertise (yes, by now you are already at least a halbe maven if not a gantze maven about what gives on Wikipedia) so hopefully we can get more of your input on Judaism-related topics and articles. Thanks again, IZAK 12:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment ratings

Hi Yoninah, I replied to you on my talk page and I am not sure if you saw this, so I am reposting my response to you here again: Good to hear from you. A Freilichen Chanukah! You can do this (change the assessment ratings) on your own, see all the details and criteria at Wikipedia:WikiProject Judaism/Assessment. The so-called "ratings" to articles are added by a "bot" -- not a human, and if you have any doubts, you can always click on the "history" button at the top of the page of any article and you can see who has been involved in rating any article. I have not been involved with the "assessment" project. User:Eliyak is involved with it. I think that User:Java7837 was involved with the project, and perhaps also User:Shirahadasha. You can also ask around and leave a request at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism there is always someone there who knows things and will get back to you. Hope this helps. IZAK (talk) 18:20, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

I've responded at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#Assessment ratings. Assessments aren't really necessary, but they can be helpful; especially by browsing the article categories by quality and by importance. All the best, Eliyak T·C 05:52, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

The assessment rating is determined by any editor who feels that the article meets the criteria found here. It's really just a way of letting other editors know where the best/worst articles can be found, and to help us all pay attention to the articles that need it. It's also used in determining which articles are included in the CD version of Wikipedia. To get a feeling of what might constitute a high, medium or low article, see the relevant categories (Low, Mid, High, Top). Again, it's user-determined, and not always easy to decide, but keep in mind that the system works best if the articles are fairly evenly districuted between high, mid and low ratings. To understand the current distribution spread, meditate on this for a while.

I've found it easiest to decide what gets rated as "low." That includes various specific synagogues, schools, organizations and trivia which, if they disappeared tomorrow, would not leave much missing in the grand scheme of things. "High" is for those topics which either have general importance througout Judaism, or else have central importance in a specific branch of Judaism. "Mid" falls somewhere in between.

As for Shalom Zachar, I felt that it is a B class, because it's well-written, but not an A class because it could probably discuss the Shalom Zachar more in depth, such as including customs of specific communities and how it was observed at various times and places. "A" class is really for exceptional articles. I rated it as "mid" and not "high" because it didn't seem to have the sort of key importance found in "high" articles. If you disagree, you of course have the right to change the rating. Remember, the rating is not a "seal of approval," but an assessment of the article for other editors' benefit. --Eliyak T·C 02:27, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the more detailed explanation. When I looked at this, I was shocked that 80% of the Jewish articles are at the level of Stub or Start class! Either that means there's really a lot more work to do, or maybe we're setting too high a mark for ourselves? Yoninah (talk) 21:50, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually, the average over all Wikipedia is about 94%! --Eliyak T·C 21:58, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hanoch Teller

Hi Yoninah: Hope you are well. Could you take a look at the Rabbi Hanoch Teller article, as his notability has been questioned by someone who knows nothing about the subject. Thanks, IZAK (talk) 08:37, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

  • Thank you for all the great work with this! IZAK (talk) 08:47, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] rabbis

I see your points you are right they should go under Hasidic rabbis in Israel--Java7837 (talk) 21:30, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

A Russian rabbi can mean a rabbi in russia or rabbi who's ancestors were from Russia--Java7837 (talk) 21:56, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I am going through all of the rabbi categories and will eventually add more articles to the Russian Orthodox rabbis category--Java7837 (talk) 22:40, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New rabbi categories sprouting like mushrooms

Sorry, I've been away for a week. Is this still an issue? Is there a discussion about this going on somewhere? Jayjg (talk) 03:37, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

No, I didn't start that discussion. I'll take a look. Jayjg (talk) 03:13, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Schick picture

What is the source of the picture? Do you have a link? Jayjg (talk) 01:24, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it's obviously the same picture, though the uploaded one is larger and better quality. It has been uploaded on the Commons, so it would have to be deleted there. That editor has uploaded a number of other images that have been deleted there. Jayjg (talk) 00:00, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Chaim Michael Dov Weissmandl

Hi Yoninah; the citation was there before I added my edit; but I didn't feel it was right to remove it although I know it as factual. So now I've made it myself look as if someone is questioning my edit.

The truth is that very little of that article has citations, and the reason probably is because most history of that great man hasn't yet been written. The public and private life of this multifaceted genius of a man is as of now sitting in the collective memories of all who knew him and those who know/knew those who knew him. I think that contemporary history has a problem of citing sources, as much isn't yet published. What's the solution; wait another century until someone publishes it? Itzse (talk) 22:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Yoninah; I heard it from a person who was there, and also from a person who knew and heard from many who were there. If Wikipedia policy says to delete it, then be my guest and delete it. I would just caution you, that if indeed this policy is above all others, then we could do WP a favor and delete at least half of it; because a good part of the information it has; although true, has never been published. It's there because people edit those topics where they are at home; they don't sit and copy words from books.
I don't know about you; so I'll only talk about myself; that almost everything that I ever edited was taken straight out of memory, only when not absolutely sure, I'll go check it out; and I don't remember ever having made any serious mistake. I'm thinking, it might be fun to tag every undocumented fact for a citation; fun for me, that is; but keep in mind Wikipedias most important rule, which is to Ignore all rules. This rule states that "Every policy, guideline or any other rule may be ignored if it hinders improving Wikipedia". I personally only tag items which I question or I know it as outright not true; the rest I leave, especially if it gives the reader more knowledge of a subject; which is the definition of improving Wikipedia. Itzse (talk) 19:46, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
This time my response is on my page; thanks. Itzse (talk) 16:46, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
You’d probably be interested that all this got me to create a new article for Hanson W. Baldwin; all thanks to you. All the best. Itzse (talk) 23:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] In appreciation

Hi Yoninah; I am honored by your bestowing on me the Original Barnstar Award. It feels good to know that there are those who appreciate my work. Yours' is the first award that I ever received, after being here for almost two and a half years. It sometimes feels as if I'm all alone here, as most people either don't care or don't notice. Although in real life my work is appreciated; here for the first time, you have broken the ice. Thanks again and good luck in all your endeavors. Itzse (talk) 18:38, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Caravanim

Please use some more references for this article. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 14:17, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Caravanim

An article that you have been involved in editing, Caravanim, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caravanim. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Shuki (talk) 23:08, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Yoninah. I had a look at the article on caravanim and I can understand why it is being considered for deletion. As an article in Hebrew Wikipedia, it might be justified, but I think the information could just as well be added to a generic article on mobile homes (citing the political use of the "caravan" or "caravilla" in Israel) or perhaps an article on "housing in Israel" or the "Israeli settlement enterprise" or "Immigration to Israel." That is my feeling, but I don't want to take sides in the deletion vote. I don't think the issue is that critical.--Gilabrand (talk) 09:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
  • So your Caravanim article survived the AfD vote. Good for you. Personally, I thought it would be merged with trailer but I did vote to keep it. Artene50 (talk) 21:14, 7 June 2008 (UTC)