Talk:Yongle Emperor
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On January 31, 2005 User:219.77.188.39 added the following comment to the article, right after ("mother unknown"):
It's totally wrong//his mother's family name was SHUO 硕. She was a Korean girl from Korea. Zhudi(Yongle) built a temple named GANENSI (感恩寺) in Nanjing for her mother. Later Zhudi (Yongle) asked Korea (朝鲜) Dynasty to send the seven beautiful girls to be a concubine to him. He loved these Korean girls more than the girls from other tribes.
I reverted this edit, since it didn't properly fit into the article. It would be good if someone could fact-check this discussion and edit the article appropriately. --MarkSweep 22:00, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Yep
The reason I didn't put the mother is because of the long debate over the identity of his biological mother. I don't yet think there is (or ever will be) a definitive answer.
[edit] Occupation of Annam
Yongle's impact on the sinicization of Annam is overstated. The Ming could only occupy Annam for 10 years. They were defeated and chased out of Annam by Le Loi, the founder of the Le dynasty. Also, Annam refers to current northern and (part of) central Vietnam.
Reference. Viet Nam Su Luoc, vol. 1, Tran Trong Kim.
Some Korean nationalists claim that Yongle was half Korean. But their isn't any evidence for it, indeed, he was much more likely full Han Chinese.
[edit] death of Fang Xiaoru
can anybody tell me the source for the story of Fang Xiaoru writing 'usurper' in blood as he dies?
Daisy Dunn
[edit] Exploration of the world
The purpose of Zheng He's voyages was not exploration (though they have been erroneously compared to European exploration often in literature). Yongle wished to expand the Chinese tributary system and project Chinese power abroad. Zheng He did not find any places that were not already known about from China's past trade, nor were these voyages concerned with trade (in fact, trade was prohibited on these missions, though some took place regardless). Each voyage was used to show off China's military might and to threaten other states into paying tribute, which in no way covered even a portion of the costs of the missions. After Yongle's reign the voyages were abruptly stopped by the Confucian bureaucracy who had been opposed to the missions from the start due to the economic strain they put on China. I may update this article in the future with sources, but really anyone can do it. Just look at any literature on the subject published in the last ten years, or any current college world history book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xandarg (talk • contribs) 05:54, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Small Nitpick
There is a discrepancy on the arrival/departure of Deshin Shekpa -- it is listed as both 17th May, 1408 CE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Missaneurysm (talk • contribs) 11:22, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Mingshi- the English online version?
Mingshi is the official history book of the Ming dynasty. I want to read this historiography which is translated into Enlish in the Internet. I had tried to find something like this but I found nothing. Can anyone here give me the link of the English online version of Mingshi? Thanks so much,--Redflowers (talk) 09:00, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- According to my knowlegde a full translation of the Mingshi in a western language doesn't exist. The only partial translation I know of is Taylor, R(omeyn), Basic annals of Ming Tʻai-tsu, San Francisco (Chinese Materials Center) 1975. It's a translation of juan 1-3 of the Mingshi. Guss2 (talk) 11:54, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Yongle's mother
No info on her?--Pericles of AthensTalk 16:35, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
