User talk:Ynhockey

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Welcome to my talk page. Here you can leave any messages you want for me. I don't reply on this page however, and will post a reply on your own talk page (unless you don't have one or I wish to leave a message for other readers as well). To make it easier for me, please have a talk link in your signature.

Also now I'm in regular service with the Israel Defense Forces, which means I may not be able to reply quickly.

Also, while I accept or even welcome criticism (as you can see, there's some on the page), I will delete any personal attacks. Please don't bother.

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[edit] Hadag Nahash

Hadag Nahash's press kit says that it plays hip hop, funk and other music. Generally, it is called a hip hop group in Israel. Why did you change the classification to funk group? -- Ynhockey (Talk) 08:59, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

The group hates that classification. I know the lead singer, who’s a friend of a friend. He said the group is placed in the hip-hop section because the record company to which it is signed did not know how to classify its sound. It sounds like the Brand New Heavies, not Wu-Tang Clan or A Tribe Called Quest, although it is influenced by hip-hop music. Remember: beats + rhymes = hip-hop. If the primary vocal is sung, it’s not hip-hop! Peace. —MuzikJunky (talk) 07:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

If they hate the label as you say, why don't they do something about it with their producer? In any case, do you have a reliable source to verify what you said? -- Ynhockey (Talk) 17:18, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

It has nothing to do with their producer—it’s a marketing thing. I spoke to the lead singer myself, who told me this. Peace. —MuzikJunky (talk) 20:52, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Jaffa-jerusalem railway.png

Thank you very much for posting this map.

However, I wanted to note that from Lod you note the old Eastern railway line as "unused". This is not so in practice as while that line no longer reaches Hadera from Lod, it does go all the way to Kfar Saba. So I think marking it as 'unused', at least from Lod, is incorrect. North of Kfar Saba it is unused, but south of it, it is definitely in usage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiliki (talk • contribs) 04:04, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting the map. However, according to your own ledgend, the Lod-Rosh Ha'ayin line should have been drawn in red or purple as it is quite often used by frieght trains and empty passenger trains.

[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Relentless.png

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Keigun uniform.png

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[edit] List of Bleach locations

Bleh my internet connection has been very unreliable recently. Although it has been a month since that AFD and discussion, I was under the assumption that most people wanted it to be merged into Bleach settings in the main article. I personally thought that would bring up a lot of clutter, so I suggested to merge it to a new article, List of Bleach locations, but most didn't see it that way here. Most manga and anime series usually have an article like that because usually a single article for a specific place cannot stand alone. Then there is a problem with Karakura Town. Some admin deleted it, based on the number of votes, so all the information is gone there. Now somebody else has merged everything into the Bleach (manga)#setting area, giving the main article too many copyrighted images and it might lose its GA status because of that, plus making everything untidy and cluttered.--Hanaichi 02:14, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] IDF Spokesperson's Unit

Just wanted to let you know that I agree with your deletion of the IP added info in IDF Spokesperson's Unit. In the very least it was written in an un-encyclopedic way without sources, and at the worst it was a major copyvio. Joshdboz (talk) 02:21, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanto stamp

Thanks for the tip at Talk:Postage stamps and postal history of Israel, I left you a question there. Kol tuv, HG | Talk 03:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey, how's it going? But you didn't even notice that I found a source?! Look again. Cheers, HG | Talk 10:33, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] About Tira

Sorry about that Ynhockey. I didn't know how to the move without retaining the histories. Is everything okay now? Tiamuttalk 12:00, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Ishida-Final Form.jpg

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[edit] Speedy deletion of Template:User IDF

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Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 04:07, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bleach character cleanup

I've started a discussion over cleanup of the Bleach characters here. Comments would be appreciated. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 03:52, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Oops

Thanks for correcting me. I'll go back and make the appropriate changes. Tiamuttalk 19:16, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] Arad Visitor Center

Actually I will like to see a reference that "Arad Visitor Center" is a tourist information centre. I think a google book search will be helpful. I know it is not controversial information, but reference makes an article complete and it looks good. Do you have any book related to tourism which describe this fact. If it is possible to give a reference on this, it will be good. Thanks. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 16:28, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Great! Thanks. --Bhadani (talk) 06:20, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Comments

Comments are addressed. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 18:17, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that-do you know of any to add or where I can find a source for them? Flymeoutofhere (talk) 21:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for that - sorry - I meant a source for additional proposed buildings/updates - where do you think is best. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 21:54, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks again for that information. This is just an idea but could we ask some of the people in those forums to add info onto here. Do you think that is a good idea? Flymeoutofhere (talk) 18:51, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
OK - will do so. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 20:00, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

RE: Arad Ynhockey - I think that Arad is getting very close to GA status - Im not sure if you are working directly towards this? Flymeoutofhere (talk) 19:33, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I didnt see that - I currently have Haifa awaiting a GA review and Tel Aviv recently failed its FAC to give you some idea. The content of Arad is now much better but I think it could do with more referencing. A GAC review will also say the lead needs extending and perhaps the demographics section also. I'll try to help add info over the next few days. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 22:03, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
I completely agree - if it were my opinion the page would be referenced enough but I know from having put Tel Aviv and Haifa through GAC and Tel Aviv into FAC that the reviewers want every point to be sourced. I will have a go - in my opinion this is one thing holding back many Israel related articles in general because often it is difficult to find sources, especially in english to reference to the article. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 12:50, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Back to Arad, I've done some copyediting - I think the history section is going to need expansion. Whilst they look awful, Ive added the citation needed tags so that other editors can add info as they view the page. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 11:48, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Sorry about that - I never realised I deleted anything like that...maybe converting what is already there into prose is the better option - I'll get onto it. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 17:44, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I was just looking at the Ashdod article and think this might be a more realistic GA article on which to base Arad in that it is more comparable in size. I really dont feel that with this article we are far off. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 19:55, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Maybe actually it would be an idea to nominate the article for GA now. Remove those tags - see what happens and if neccessary we can always delete the statements. The Haifa GA has been waiting for a month with no review yet so it might be an idea to get it in now and carry on working on it. Let me know (and I'll remove the outstanding tags). Flymeoutofhere (talk) 21:34, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
I'll nominate for GA now - and in the meanwhile we can continue working on it as before. If we are ultimately going for FA we need to pass through GA anyway so might as well. I think I'd find it very hard to find sources to those articles - Ive really found it hard to source anything which has prevented development of many of the Israeli geography articles in general. I think the map will greatly enhance the article as will all this further information, at least there now seems to be more to base the FA upon. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 21:43, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

On another topic - Ive renominated Tel Aviv as a FAC - you can see on the nomination page Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Tel Aviv. Could you please have a look and let me know if you agree with the comments made by User:Maralia as someone who hasnt had much recent involvement in the article's development. Thanks. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 18:15, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for those comments - to be honest, they really have been more useful to me in developing the article than any other comment I have been given in any FAC, GAC, Peer Review or Copyedit! I'm slowly working through Arad, and looking for sources. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 20:06, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

On another topic again, I wonder if you could do me a favour with the Haifa article. It was a GA nominee and failed in part due to a lack of information in a few sections. I've found info for some of these, but dont think my Hebrew is good enought to find/translate information on the current city council/legislators and to expand the art and culture section. Any help here would be much appreciated. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 10:32, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for those links. Ive extracted some information for demographics but think I will struggle with the government and culture sections. For the government section, there needs to be information on the municipality - its makeup, jurisdiction and what it covers (responsibilities), regularity of elections etc. Also basic information on law in the city, and other public services of notability. For the culture section, I think it just needs general expansion with whatever ifnromation is available at that source. If you would do this - itd be fantastic. Thanks. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 16:51, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the government info. With the cultural section, is there any extra information on music, theater, cinema, art, etc which you know of or is at the cultural source you provided. Its the one thing now which is missing from the GA review and whilst Im not sure it is crucual, it would be very beneficial to have this info. Thanks. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 10:38, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Ive posted a reply at my talk page. Thanks. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 14:10, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
    • No I didnt. If you could split it. My MSN is not really reliable for recieving files for some reason. Thanks. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 18:04, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
I just downloaded it so you can take it off. Oh - I didnt realise it was in Hebrew. I wont be able to translate this well enough. Im really sorry. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 09:01, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Thanks for that. Sorry - from now on I'll do that on your talk page. Im not that fussy about mine, tbh, but it might be easier if they were in that format. Also, theres a dicussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Palestine about tagging and scope of WP's which you might be interested in. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 18:43, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Second Intifada RfC

Hi, can you respond to this RfC for me, please? Thanks. ← Michael Safyan (talk) 22:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. By the way, if you happen to know any sympathetic editors who can help out, that would be amazing. Thanks. ← Michael Safyan (talk) 01:08, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
I'd advise against responding to this request. I've already informed Michael Safyan that I view this last post and his notification of seven other editors to be dangerously close to WP:CANVASSING#Votestacking. Thanks. Tiamuttalk 01:49, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
I was not advising you against participating in the RfC. I was advising you against notifying other "sympathetic editors", as Michael put it above, from joining the debate. That's just plain votestacking and obviates the purpose of an RfC, which is to garner feedback from the community at large, and not call partisans to battle. Thanks. Tiamuttalk 12:58, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] CfD nomination of Category:Palestinian mortars

Category:Palestinian mortars, which you created, has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. – Cgingold (talk) 07:03, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:AWB

Probably an automatic AWB feature. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 18:37, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2008-03-18 Second Intifada

Just notifying you, that as you have been involved in the discussion regarding the Second Intifada article, which is now the subject of a MedCab case, I'm notifying you of this as you may wish to partake in this case to discuss a resolution to this dispute. Feel free to leave a comment on my talk page. Regards, Steve Crossin (talk) 23:34, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Yediot

The Yediot thing was not intended as a transliteration - the article's name itself is the (albeit bad) transliteration - but rather as a pronounciation guide - kh is used in English to denote the sound of both Het and Khuf as we English speakers cannot really differentiate between them. The missing "a" was just carelessness on my part. Hope that explains, пﮟოьεԻ 57 15:50, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Several years of living in Israel - I think I could only just about tell the difference with Yemenite accents. Anyway, yes IPA is probably better, but I don't know how to write it. пﮟოьεԻ 57 15:58, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tel Aviv Peer Review (flymeoutofhere)

Im looking again at bob rulz's comments. Do you have any ideas for addressing:

  • Expansion of religion - I think it says enough - it isnt a huge issue in TA like it is Jerusalem
  • Education expansion?
  • Media expansion?

Thanks. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 18:56, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

OK - I'll try to do this over the next few days. I moved all the images from the left so someone else must have done that recently. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 19:14, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I made those changes to the article. If theres anything further you can add, please go ahead, I've found it hard to find sources here. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 15:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:HE

I made those changes to facilitate discussion, I wouldn't have been so brazen it if it wasn't simply a proposal. I never meant for it all to be permanant. In addition, I'm offended you removed imformation on what the policy will be with he at the end of words, and the transliteration letters to avoid (i.e., q, ts, ...), because since you did a blanket revert (which is fine), you should have responded to the paragraph I wrote at the bottom Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Hebrew)#Comments regarding guideline when I made those edits to begin with, and in which, as of yet, no "other editors will be more than happy to discuss the issue(s) with you and reach proper consensus," I'm still waiting for that. Good day. Epson291 (talk) 01:31, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Restoration of templates

Just wanted to thank you for restoring the original Israel muni infoboxes for those Negev towns. I was doing that before for towns in the Galilee, but just got tired of it. I'll start restoring infoboxes everywhere now. --Al Ameer son (talk) 04:58, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Just got done with some Center District towns and moved Kafr Qasim to the cities list of the Center District template. I'll do all of Haifa District tomorrow (most of the infoboxes have been restored there) Anyway, its 4:40 in America so I'm going to hit the sack. --Al Ameer son (talk) 08:41, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Eilat opening panorama...

Actually I got both the idea and the image from Dutch Wikipedia (through Commons, of course) and used it to replace the previous gallery shots - which were not very good. Please reconsider; I'm reverting for the time being. Meanwhile, hope you have an easy [and safe!| stint. Good Luck, Shir-El too 18:58, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

You are probably right, but this to me is a much more attractive and descriptive image of Eilat than a profile of North Beach hotels. Went back to the Commons to find out where else it is in use, but either it isn't any more or (more probably) I don't know how to find the info. Be Well, Shir-El too 19:17, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

realizing your issue is with the image itself, not the formatting, i've formatted the image properly and moved it to the bottom. feel free to move it around, but please leave the current formatting. Actually, I prefer the way I had it at the top, without the formatting, but I appreciate your attention to detail and will retain the formatting when I move it back up. Cheers, Shir-El too 17:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Am also working on the citations but Benno Rothenberg is not easily found on the web. Shir-El too 17:39, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Moshavot

Thanks for the heads up - I was a little unclear. My Hebrew isn't good enough to translate the Hebrew article, so I don't suppose you could have a go at it?

Also, should all the places I've put in Category:Former moshavot just go in Category:Moshavot as in the Hebrew version? Cheers, пﮟოьεԻ 57 14:04, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, I'll empty them and delete. Made a bit of progress with the translation... пﮟოьεԻ 57 14:18, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Arad GA Fail

Hi. I was very surprised to see Arad get a quick GA fail - it doesnt meet the quick fail criteria - the only thing it comes remotely clear to meeting is because of its 4 cn tags but this is hardly a large number. Let me know your thoughts. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 08:59, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

please deal with the issues and i will re-review the page. don't worry! i appreciate your efforts and i will not let your hopes fall down! Just meet those issues and i will definitely pass it! Cheers, (the one whom you consider as an unfair reviewer) Sushant gupta (talk) 16:41, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
OK - yes I agree. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 17:01, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
fine, perhaps you are right. do one thing, let the history section the way it is now. but truly speaking while i was reviewing this page i found images very messy. if you don't mind can you please remove few images, which you yourself find less important. it looks very scattered on wide screen monitors, especially on iMac. thanks, Sushant gupta (talk) 17:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
yes, i agree with you. i found your comments really worth and rational. just meet those citation tags. well if you are not bluffing regarding the appearance of the page on 17'' monitor. i can withdraw my comment. after all our purpose is to build wikipedia. if it looks good in small monitors if have no problem. With regards, Sushant gupta (talk) 17:30, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

sorry, i don't know how to take a screenshot. anyway, i have no problem with images to that extent after all it won't be obstructing GA passage for the page. just address those two statements which needs ref. And inform me. i will pass it. now if you don't mind its very late night in India and i want to sleep for at least 8 hours (i haven't slept for 2 days). i will surely pass it in the morning. thank you (if you address those statements) Sushant gupta (talk) 18:52, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

i have passed it. Good night! zzzzzzz.............Sushant gupta (talk) 18:59, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Great work! It deserves it. Yes, lets work on getting more Israeli cities etc up to this standard. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 19:37, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

The Barnstar of National Merit
For your great work and dedication to Israel articles in general, especially your most recent contribution to the promotion of Arad, Israel to GA --Flymeoutofhere (talk) 19:42, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Avigdor Liberman

Hi, Yan. Glad to see you make an appearance on the talk page. Hope you stick around. בברכה, El_C 13:37, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: List of cities in Israel

I was looking at this list and thinking its close to FA list standard so was making little edits to get it there. I know that if we leave the gallery there (even though we prefer it there) it wont pass the FA. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 14:17, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I completely agree but its better I guess to have it ready before than to ammend it as a result of a comment. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 14:23, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
You dont by any chance know where the source for hte list of cities by immigrants is? Flymeoutofhere (talk) 14:28, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
I cant see an updated version of that data so will cite that one. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 16:24, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shinigami

Hey, Ynhockey. I'm User:Hobbeslover (changed my name a little while ago). Why did you revert my edits? I thought that they would be clarifying. erc talk/contribs 18:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

No problems. I'll go back and re-word it later, if it's okay with you. erc talk/contribs 18:14, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
I mean, I really don't care. I just think that the wording right now isn't that great. And again, no worries :) erc talk/contribs 18:17, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Introduction

I saw your posting at User talk:El C's page today. I'm on a kind of crusade to get rid of anti-Semitism on Wikipedia, mostly by accident. I mostly edit medical and science articles, because I am a physician (and spent several years in the US Navy in the Medical Corps), and I think I accidentally ran into Race and intelligence. There was an editor who thought he could get away with an evil comment about how Nazi's executing Jews was humane (the logic still eludes me, but since I'm missing Uncles and Aunts because of the humane treatment, I might be biased). I see your passion on some of your edits, so you might want to watch some other articles where anti-Semitic behavior is seen--right now there are a couple of racist editors involved with Ku Klux Klan, which is a Neo-Nazi hate group in the US.

However, this isn't the reason I'm writing. I noticed your name, and I had to laugh. I am a big hockey fan, and I share Los Angeles Kings season tickets with an Israeli ex-pat and his wife. We attend many games together, and we even went to watch the Israeli team play in some games in the US a few years ago. My son, who, of course is Jewish, plays hockey and I've tried to convince him to go to Israel and join the team. Then we found out that just about every good Jewish hockey player in the US, Canada, and Russia moves to Israel for the team, and my son isn't that good! Matthieu Schneider came to a friends Bar Mitzvah a few years ago (when he played for the Kings), and he told me the story that he is the answer to a great trivia question: what is the only NHL goal by a Jewish player which was assisted by another Jewish player. It was Schneider passing to Camalleri (both with the Kings at the time) in a game at Carolina. However, it took 100 years for that to happen, so it may not happen for another 100 years.

I'm not sure how you became a Canucks fan, so I'd love to know. Stay safe while you're with the IDF. Shalom. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 18:26, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sde Dov

Thanks, it seems that we're on a bit of a role here! Flymeoutofhere (talk) 09:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ness Ziona

Yes of course. Im a bit busy over the next couple of months but should be able to give it some attention. Thanks. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 17:03, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New articles on Israel

Nice work on the railways articles. It's good to see someone is maintaining th project. I'm a bit busy at this time, so I don't really make major contributions, but hopefully I'll get back on it soon enough. Meanwhile, get a ח"ח. Keep up the good work :-) -- Nudve (talk) 06:39, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jaakobou RfC

Please see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Jaakobou. You seem to know a bit about Jaakobou's editing history, and I know you like to pop into discussions and defend him. Here's your chance! :-) <eleland/talkedits> 20:18, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Map for High-speed railway to Jerusalem article

Way cool, thanks for stepping up and adding it. Slambo (Speak) 17:33, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kfar Mena(c)hem

PLEASE , I LIVE IN KFAR MENACHEM born there ( I am 56 year old )

NOT Kfar Menahem

Shqlomi Garber


[edit] Kfar Menachem

Avraham Menachem Mendel Ussishkin (1863-1941) was a notable Zionist leader

Is this from WIKI enough Shalomi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shalomig (talk • contribs) 18:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Conflict of Interest

Ynhockey, I am just wondering if you might be able to explain how, as a member of the IDF you do not have a conflict of interest when editing Israeli or even Palestinian related articles? I only ask this because some of your recent edits on Gilo seemed to have removed important and worthy sources (ie: The UN) and replaced them with sources like the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, which are far more partisan sources. The article also seems to have taken on a rather nationalist tone, and minimises the viewpoints which dispute its legal status. Colourinthemeaning (talk) 04:28, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ness Ziona

Shalom. Please use more preview button. I found that you saved article about Ness Ziona 10 times in less than half an hour. Thanks. --Faigl.ladislav (talk) 08:19, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cities XL vs. CITIES XL

Thanks for catching that, I did try and look up on the WP:MOS before changing the name from Cities Unlimited when the game's name was changed. However, it appears I missed WP:MOSTM - it didn't click for some reason that it was trademark. Camaron | Chris (talk) 15:32, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

I have replied to your question on my talk page. Camaron | Chris (talk) 15:45, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:AWB & interwiki links in Arad, Israel

Sorry about messing up the interwiki links on Arad, Israel. I complained to the WP:AWB people. Apparently the latest version sorts them correctly (although the one I was using was only 2 or 3 weeks old). Ling.Nut (talk) 16:34, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Micky Rosenfeld

Hi. I was wondering if you can review the AfD page for this article and then offer your advice. Thanks. Stanley011 (talk) 22:41, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kfar Menachem

I try to let you Know Kfar Menachem in the name Menachem Osishkin - from WIKI: ".... by a group of activists named "Irgun Menachem" after Menachem Osishkin founded in Rehovot ..... " [1] and Avraham Menachem Mendel Ussishkin is translate wrong too [2] you change the history when you try to translate name of place. sorry for you .... Shalomi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shalomig (talk • contribs) 09:57, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent AN/I comment

Hi Yan. I appreciate your comments and find them quite reasonable in the whole.

Regardless of the fact that we may agree or disagree about the blocks and whether they fit their purpose or not, we could at least have a couple of days to discuss how to better deal with this with the minimum energies possible. They were meant to stop disruption so others can think about what should be done. 1 week was not a random block period but enough to start fresh.

As you said, many people lose ineterest in editing I-P area. Others come. Same happens to mentors and admins in this area. Avi and me co-mentored Isarig and if it wasn't because he decided to leave Wikipedia he would have been a very good editor - probably a model to a few others. I know how hard is to mentor someone but I can't imagine spending our time mentoring (almost) everybody all the time. The ArbCom message has been sent a couple of months ago. It has been said, re-explained and set clarly lately on AE. The message is clear. Wikipedia needs to move on and it is not a school for parties disputing the same thing forever. Administrators and mentors have different roles but they are still complementary in our case. Both mentors and admins are editors and are very active users on other areas of the project. They are not supposed to dedicate all their time in Wikipedia to police one dispute.

Both Jaakobou and PR have had mentors but we are still at the same point. This is not because of the mentors but because of the users themselves. However, I can understand Jaakobou's particular situation, according to what his mentor, himself, Avi and you are saying (I already warned people on AE recently) - but that is not a green line to revert without discussion and prompt another revert. Same aplies to PR. People are fed up with discussing so they just revert. All I hope is that attitudes change or else we would need a divorce.


That being said, our purpose is to see as many possible conflicting editors working better in a professional way. WP:IPCOLL is one of the venues where parties, mentors, admins and third parties can gather. This way we won't clutter ANI, AN, ArbCom, AE, article talkpages -with all the protect/unprotect stuff that comes with.

Wikipedia should encourage editors to monitor themselves. That is where we should invest our time. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 00:06, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gadsar Nahal

Hi. I thought I'd check it with you since you're (still) in the army. I've found this new article and my question is - are they really a Gadsar (i.e. battalion)? Are they not a squad (Palsar) or, more accurately, a Sayeret? How does it work nowadays? -- Nudve (talk) 19:16, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'll post a message on the talk page. If there's no response, I'll propose a move, right? -- Nudve (talk) 19:29, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I'd say go ahead with the move now, because there's absolutely no evidence for it being a battalion, although your strategy is sound as well. The most important thing is to watch the page and not forget this issue in the coming few days. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 19:38, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Very well -- Nudve (talk) 19:40, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Addendum: Meanwhile, User:Shuki has suggested that this article and the similar Gadsar Tzanchanim be merged into their respective brigade articles. IMO, it might not be such a bad idea.-- Nudve (talk) 06:28, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:HE

Acronym Chambers Dictionary defines

Acronym: a word formed from the initial letters of other words, as radar. This is the widely found dictionary definition. מ"ץ is not a word is it?

Mapik Maybe you have missed my point. Mapik has absolutely nothing to do with dagesh. It makes perfect sense to ignore dagesh in romanization, but none to ignore mapik. In the middle of a word a he is almost always aspirated. In the absence of a vowel the he carries a shva to indicate aspiration (a shva under a he is never sounded). At the end of a word an aspirated he is not given a shva but a mapik. Since the mapik is the aspiration mark, it should be romanized. An unaspirated he carries no mark, whether in mid-word or at the end.

I hope I have myself clear. With thanks. --Redaktor (talk) 23:28, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dag Nahash

Fair enough, I did a 'google test', which overwhelmingly favours spelling it with a c, but I would use the offical press release as well. Epson291 (talk) 06:55, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Odd, I got 83,000 vs.13,000. Epson291 (talk) 01:03, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion review for The Benji Hillman Foundation

Hi. I saw your comments regarding deleting the original page and therefore have added a lot of information regarding the Foundation as well as 7 secondary sources. I hope you will decide this article is now acceptable. Thank you.--Chaffchaff (talk) 16:49, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Damaged RfC

I don't know what's happened over there and I'm hesitant to try and clear up the mess left.

However, I see nothing new whatsoever. If a book-review in an Israeli newspaper tells us "Under the influence of other historians who have dealt with the same issue in recent years, [Prof Shlomo Sand] argues that the exile of the Jewish people is originally a Christian myth that depicted that event as divine punishment imposed on the Jews for having rejected the Christian gospel". then the material is undoubtedly highly relevant. Even proving it factually wrong (as you've not attempted to do) would hardly justify leaving it out. PRtalk 18:15, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Citation a bloody mess

I would appreciate an direction you could give me regarding improving the citations on Yerida. Thanks Pini00001 (talk) 01:42, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Thanks for Citation help

Thanks for taking the time to help me. I will try to implement your suggestions. Pini00001 (talk) 16:29, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Settlements in Israel

See Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/FritzpollBot and User:Fritzpoll/Geo categorical assessments and also note the category naming in Category:Cities by country. It is all part of an infrastructural process to add a complete world gazetteer on wikipedia and make articles on settlements the most comprehensive possible. This means simplified category structures connecting them all. There is a brilliant list of the main cities in List of cities in Israel anyway for reference which is much better. An FA list congrats! IN several weeks there will be several thousands new articles generated on missing Israeli settlements. These will all be housed in one category to make wikipedia a better and more consistent place for all. Basically we are preparing for a potential 1 million new articles on wikipedia. You;d be amazed how many articles I;ve come across on villages which have been categorized as "Cities" or towns categorized as villages etc. The original discussion on renaming took places back in November 2005 when categories like Category:Cities, towns and villages in Cyprus were created. IBassically I'm looking to have an article on every city, town or village on the planet and I want universal consistency and standard of articles whether they are cities with a population of 7 million or villages with a population of 50, ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:47, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Well that isn't exactly a fair deal to consult the WP:Israel as they are bound to side with you because that is what they have been accustomed to. I have no idea what you mean when Israel is "missing". Here is all 1100 places. As for a category being named "City" vs "Cities, towns and villages" being a criteria for regarding Israel as "up there with the western powers like USA and UK" is silly. I am fully aware that Israel is far more developed than many countries but the fact is the way israeli settlements on wikipedia are distributed on here in aover 30 different categories is not good and far too complex. There is such a thing as overcategorization. I have no objection to you readding Category:Cities in Israel to the major cities as long as you don't remove the main category I put in; can we please also keep all settlements in one category also for convience? This way it has only positive benenftis surely? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:46, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Because I am trying to get some standardization across wikipedia where all settlements within a given area are categorized in the same way by country. What is very difficult is when certain countries are unwilling to change what they are accustomed to in relation to the rest of the world on here because they think they are different or special. Having all the places in one main category is for convenience and to say, all places in Israel are in this category at my fingertips. I found many Israeli aricles on my travels which were categorized as cities with a population of 4,000 and articles with a population of 11,000 categorized as villages. Is this what you want? Aside from this the articles on Israeli cities again go against the norm and have their own infboxes which unlike others don't have a useful locator map as standard ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:08, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Ther eis alot of inconsistency with the categories. Articles like Rishon LeZion were never categorized as "Cities in Israel" either. You expect people to browse through the 30 + subcategories and find "Coastal cities in Israel" to find the article? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000?

Let me guess? It was User:MJCDetroit who wanted to convert it to standard right? I have to say that I do think your infoboxes look attractive but they seriously need a map. You may know where the cities are but most wikipedia users don't. I'm not going to pressure you to change the infoboxes but I would strongly advise that pin point map and coordinates is added to the infobox to address these concerns. If you ask MJCDetroit himself he may be able to help out with that. But you're incorrect in that the standard infobox doesnt cater for all countries. It does which is why it is used in over 90% of places now. If the standard infobox has at least 6 parameters which are empty and you can write whatever you want into them how can this not be compatible?? They are a lot more flexible than the ones you have an present. What if I suddenly wanted to add an image or demographic data to the infobox. You'd be stuck ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:52, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] TASE companies

Here's the list you asked for, I'll put it in this subpage (Template talk:TASE companies/list) Epson291 (talk) 18:12, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Two towns

Hey Ynhockey, I want to first thank you for starting the Kaukab Abu al-Hija article; It was on my to-do list, so it was a delight to see a blue link there. I was recently looking at the North District article and I see it's just about finished! However, I remember a while back I removed one of the towns called Mi'liya because I thought it was the same as Ma'alot-Tarshiha. Since you have more knowledge on this than I do, could you tell me if the two are different towns or the same town. Thanks! --Al Ameer son (talk) 01:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling query

Hi there. Could you add your input at User talk:Derwig#Bnaya/Benaya? Just a question over spelling. Cheers, пﮟოьεԻ 57 09:36, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Replied

I ahve replied to you on my talkpage Fritzpoll (talk) 15:52, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Censorship

I find it rude that you delete the addition I made to "Focused Foiling" in the IDF article, what I wrote was perfectly just, I was expanding on what the practice is, state terrorism, and definitly does not lack neutrality, I have re-written a slightly more subtle addition, and would appreciate it if you fucked off. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nassimo (talk • contribs)

[edit] AfD discussion

Hi, would you care to comment on the AfD discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caravanim? Thank you, Yoninah (talk) 08:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:List of highways in Israel

I replied over there. Shalom (Hello • Peace) 02:28, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Hello

Re your revert, if you read the article, it is explicit that it is not the same 100% of the time. Hence my amendment. --Dweller (talk) 17:34, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Har Adar

Thanks for your very elegant (and thoughtful) changes to my stuff in Har Adar. And it's not very nice to malign Arad in front of strangers... Best, --Zlerman (talk) 12:51, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A few things

Hi Yan. I've got a few things which I'd like your opinion on:

Firstly I think Gilabrand is right in what she says here about using the Hebrew name; I began the article a long time ago before I'd really got to grips with what it was appropriate to Anglicise or not. However, I'd like your opinion on whether it should be:

  1. Hapoel Hamizrahi
  2. Hapoel Hamizrachi
  3. Hapoel HaMizrahi
  4. Hapoel HaMizrachi

I'm torn between 1 and 3; whilst 3 meets WP:HEBREW, I don't think I've ever seen the second word have the second capital (much like Hashomer Hatzair).

Secondly, I've also been toying with the idea of moving Hanoar Haoved Vehalomed to a capitalised version.

Thirdly, I've just created Settlement movement (Israel). Whilst as far as I'm aware Agudat Israel Workers, Mizrahi Workers and Kibbutz Artzi are defunct, they are listed as affiliations for several kibbutzim and moshavim on the Hebrew wiki. Do you know if the affiliation still stands, or whether it refers to their initial one?

I saw you said you had something you wanted to talk to me about. I'm afraid I haven't been able to get on messenger much recently, so it might be better to talk via e-mail. Cheers, пﮟოьεԻ 57 13:23, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ayyalon cave

Hi Yan. please contact me about the Ayyalon cave article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Isrnmn (talk • contribs) 10:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Allegations of Israeli Apartheid?

currently there is a vote going on in removing allegations of an israeli apartheid. i would appreciate your opinion on this matter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Allegations_of_Israeli_apartheid_%288th_nomination%29Wikifan12345 (talk) 23:40, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah no problem. It kinda disgust me that things like this get hosted on wikipedia. I'm honestly shocked how people can rationalize and justify the inclusion of propaganda in an online encyclopedia. it truly is pathetic. 70.181.148.148 (talk) Wikifan12345 (talk) 00:03, 11 June 2008 (UTC)23:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You

Thanks for the welcome note and the links. They were very helpful :) Kefo77 (talk) 20:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)