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[edit] requesting input
Noticed the ol' Wikiproject page is looking a bit shabby these days, know I'd be against joining if that's how things were. So, because I'm out of good things to do I've decided to go and play around with what we've got even though it means using chunks of layout and procedure common to WP:LGBT. Of course, I'm asking your for input on this as you're the only other regular that seems to be firing on all cylinders. When I say input, I do mean work on it, not just mentioning "that's fine" in passing as I really hate working alone on collaborative things and I know, you wouldn't just say little and move on but I want more ideas and a second pair of eyes on how this should look and work.
Feel free to use the talkpage for the sandboxes and even take code from other project's homearticles you like because what I've got is only framework and would love for anyone to put their two pence in on this as even though we're small fry dealing with small fry subject matter and articles I want for us to at least look like we can run with the big fish if/when we grow. Sandboxes at the new place or at least navigational at the old one. treelo talk 17:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- That's fine...
- Just kidding. That's pretty steep, it'll take a little bit of time to digest everything. I'll try to tweak up what I can, and have a few ideas already simmering. Yngvarr (c) 18:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Sure it's big, covers a lot of ground and I was actually thinking of using WP:VG as the starting point and that's a kingproject of several smaller ones so yeah, could have been a lot bigger. I'll discuss anything further on the sandbox talkpage but I've got doubt about this, what if all this framework and infrastructure building gets unused? I don't want a repeat of the todo list again! Maybe we should attempt a recruitment drive again, the pool seems to have shrunk of recent times but there's got to be a few who give half a damn, hasn't there? I dislike collaborative efforts when it's just two people collaborating in any meaningful way, maybe we should expand what we do to a adult swim project or taskforce, does mean a whole new pool to fish in. Just trying to find a way forward... again. treelo talk 18:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- I see it as catch-22. People see the project with two active members, and decide not to join. More activity, more members. And how to get more members? More activity! This might be a good jump-start, tho. We'll work up the framework a little bit more, put it all in place, and decide how to attract more people. As you know, there is tons of work that can be done by people of varying skills (i.e. I've been wanting to deal with the categories for some time, but never seem to get around it). How do other projects attract more members? And keep the (ahem) undesirables at bay or at least under some sort of control? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yngvarr (talk • contribs) 15:05, June 6, 2008
- It is a bit, isn't it? I decided to do this because I think it's been a bit neglected given the way it feels like the life has fallen out of the project. We should keep working on the framework further, I really do want to run our own in-project FAC so we can finally say that one of our articles is GA status if only within our small little world, I've mentioned something about that on the sandbox talkpage. There is lots of work to do, just hard putting down what and where isn't it? Member attraction for other projects seems to work on either headhunting the good editors and offering incentives like barnstars for those who generally do good work. If we do want to keep those who will work against the project even with good faith implied like the fanboi element we get as well as the generally illiterate, maybe some form of vetting system might be useful. How exactly you'd implement something like that though is a question for someone who knows more. treelo talk 19:50, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- I see it as catch-22. People see the project with two active members, and decide not to join. More activity, more members. And how to get more members? More activity! This might be a good jump-start, tho. We'll work up the framework a little bit more, put it all in place, and decide how to attract more people. As you know, there is tons of work that can be done by people of varying skills (i.e. I've been wanting to deal with the categories for some time, but never seem to get around it). How do other projects attract more members? And keep the (ahem) undesirables at bay or at least under some sort of control? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yngvarr (talk • contribs) 15:05, June 6, 2008
- Sure it's big, covers a lot of ground and I was actually thinking of using WP:VG as the starting point and that's a kingproject of several smaller ones so yeah, could have been a lot bigger. I'll discuss anything further on the sandbox talkpage but I've got doubt about this, what if all this framework and infrastructure building gets unused? I don't want a repeat of the todo list again! Maybe we should attempt a recruitment drive again, the pool seems to have shrunk of recent times but there's got to be a few who give half a damn, hasn't there? I dislike collaborative efforts when it's just two people collaborating in any meaningful way, maybe we should expand what we do to a adult swim project or taskforce, does mean a whole new pool to fish in. Just trying to find a way forward... again. treelo talk 18:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
(undent, sigh) Right, where to next with this? treelo talk 00:30, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Go live? There are some things still outstanding, but I think it's fairly complete enough. Maybe see what people at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council say? Not sure if that's the best place, but the best I could dig up at the moment. Yngvarr (c) 00:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, if you do put it live, I'd suggest archiving the existing talkpage discussions, and add a new section explaining what has happened. Sort of a clean-slate kind of feeling. Yngvarr (c) 00:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Does the WP council even handle things like new if copied infrastructures? Possibly not worth it. As for going live, I might do so in the next day or so but feel free to.. ugh, be bold.. and do it if it seems like the most logical step.
If we're archiving the talkpage, start a new archive, archival bot limits them to a workable 40kb and the most recent is neat that.After a rework you could put the current talkpage into archive #4 without being too big. treelo talk 02:17, 8 June 2008 (UTC)- Well, I got caught up in other things and now it's too late for me to do anything of import. Unless you beat me to it, I'll do it in a day (tomorrow, being Sunday the 8th). Saw you found WP:IGOR. I found it just a few hours ago, myself. Only looked at it for a few minutes, but looks pretty helpful. Yngvarr (c) 03:12, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Alright then, I might change it tomorrow (or today, my timezone's UTC+1 so yes, tomorrow as in May 9) and if you get there first then you get there first, taste the glory. Igor is a nice tool, I'm just doing beta-testing so I can suggest things when it's ready for prime time. treelo talk 03:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- The dark deed you have requested is done, sir. Yngvarr (c) 11:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- That's ma'am to you, jerkweasel. treelo talk 12:14, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Tsk tsk, I couldn't resist a Spongebob reference, even tho I don't watch it anymore. But sorry to have offended. Yngvarr (c) 12:15, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Pfft, you wish! I caught the reference but couldn't rebound it with a counter-reference from Spongebob so there you go. That and many people reckon I'm male. treelo talk 12:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, all is good. But I didn't catch your reference :( Anyways, on to other things for the moment Yngvarr (c) 12:36, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Pfft, you wish! I caught the reference but couldn't rebound it with a counter-reference from Spongebob so there you go. That and many people reckon I'm male. treelo talk 12:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Tsk tsk, I couldn't resist a Spongebob reference, even tho I don't watch it anymore. But sorry to have offended. Yngvarr (c) 12:15, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- That's ma'am to you, jerkweasel. treelo talk 12:14, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- The dark deed you have requested is done, sir. Yngvarr (c) 11:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Alright then, I might change it tomorrow (or today, my timezone's UTC+1 so yes, tomorrow as in May 9) and if you get there first then you get there first, taste the glory. Igor is a nice tool, I'm just doing beta-testing so I can suggest things when it's ready for prime time. treelo talk 03:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I got caught up in other things and now it's too late for me to do anything of import. Unless you beat me to it, I'll do it in a day (tomorrow, being Sunday the 8th). Saw you found WP:IGOR. I found it just a few hours ago, myself. Only looked at it for a few minutes, but looks pretty helpful. Yngvarr (c) 03:12, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Does the WP council even handle things like new if copied infrastructures? Possibly not worth it. As for going live, I might do so in the next day or so but feel free to.. ugh, be bold.. and do it if it seems like the most logical step.
(undent.. merp) FYI, I've created some more shortcut redirects, more at Wikipedia:WikiProject Cartoon Network/Alphabet soup navigation and my contribs. Also, there was no reference, not even certain jerkweasel means anything. treelo talk 13:03, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
