Talk:Yitzhak Ben-Zvi
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 |
Yitzhak Ben-Zvi is part of WikiProject Israel, an attempt to build a comprehensive guide to Israel on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, visit the project page where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion. This template adds articles to Category:WikiProject Israel articles. |
|
Project Israel To Do (Drop-Down Menu):
|
|
| ??? | This article has not yet received a rating on the quality scale. |
| ??? | This article has not yet received a rating on the importance scale. |
 |
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography. For more information, visit the project page. | ||
| Start | This article has been rated as Start-Class on the project's quality scale. [FAQ] | ||
 |
This article is supported by the Politics and government work group. | ||
[edit] Biography assessment rating comment
The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Natsubee 16:13, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Jacob Israël de Haan assassination
The changes made in the name of NPOV include a very POV statement "a highly controversial figure in the Jewish Yishuv". Also are you aware of any contradictory claims to those made in the book that would support the "allegedly" that you entered? —Preceding unsigned comment added by KosherJava (talk • contribs) 06:45, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
-
- Yes, I certainly do. In every encyclopedia I have read, it says the order came from "Haganah" commanders. On the basis of one journalist's theory, you cannot state that Ben-Zvi ordered the murder. You can describe it as one hypothesis. This De Haan character was indeed controversial - a person who changed his views every other day, going from fervent Zionist to anti-Zionist, from secular to religious, from married to a Christian woman to a homosexual. These matters are complex (as is history in general), and Wikipedia is frightening in its ability to spread disinformation. Oh, and by the way, I also know of a theory that Ben-Zvi's wife ordered the murder--Gilabrand (talk) 06:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Here are few facts on de Haan, to back up the "POV" allegation that he was controversial:
- Yes, I certainly do. In every encyclopedia I have read, it says the order came from "Haganah" commanders. On the basis of one journalist's theory, you cannot state that Ben-Zvi ordered the murder. You can describe it as one hypothesis. This De Haan character was indeed controversial - a person who changed his views every other day, going from fervent Zionist to anti-Zionist, from secular to religious, from married to a Christian woman to a homosexual. These matters are complex (as is history in general), and Wikipedia is frightening in its ability to spread disinformation. Oh, and by the way, I also know of a theory that Ben-Zvi's wife ordered the murder--Gilabrand (talk) 06:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
"The name of Jacob Israel de Haan and his fate has somehow become associated with the Neturei Karteh, possibly because the story associated with him is unfavorable to Zionism. De Haas was never a member of the Neturei Karteh. De Haan was a gifted Orthodox Dutch Jewish poet and journalist, and a homosexual. He emigrated to the land of Israel in 1919, where he was at first an ardent Zionist. He defended Ze'ev Jabotinsky when the later was tried by the British for defending Jews during the Arab riots of 1920. Subsequently however, de Haan became an anti-Zionist and a sympathizer of Agudath Yisrael . He agitated against Zionism and sent back anti-Zionist dispatches. He was becoming an embarrassment to the British as well as the Zionists. He was murdered in 1924, very probably by the Haganah for unknown reasons, possibly involving betrayal of Haganah members to the British or possibly because he was about to disclose embezzlement of funds." http://www.zionism-israel.com/dic/Neturei_Karta.htm--Gilabrand (talk) 07:23, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] please protect this article
the article is being repeatedly vandalized. this - יצחק בן צבי - is the correct hebrew spelling of Ben-Zvi's name. anything else is incorrect. can anyone protect this article and disable its editing by vandals? Pelegisrael (talk) 04:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
