Talk:Ying and Yan

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[edit] Sourcing

SaniOKh : This would be a question for all of the Wikipedia users. I sure didn't quote sources when I wrote this article, it is only because the sole source of information I had was the described book itself, I simply told what I've read while looking in the book to avoid confusions. Do I find a complete text on the internet and quote towards it? I'm not sure what is to be done, here... SaniOKh 05:52, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi there. In general, you need to cite another source that talks about the book (i.e., literary criticism). This is because Wikipedia cannot contain original research. A guideline for what sort of information should be contained in articles about books can be found at Wikipedia:Notability_(books). Oh, and p.s., please sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~). Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 05:41, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

SaniOKh:

OK, I figure this page I wrote so hard will be erased in the future, as there is no source in English about this book (the only thing I actually found was redirecting to this same article :/). There are some in Russian, but they depict the main concept and don't go far in the details. I thought that if people often posted their film plot summaries unsourced, it was also possible to do the same for a book. So I was wrong. OK, I'll just post sources as I find them. SaniOKh 05:52, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with the text, but if it's notable, there's no reason it shouldn't be here. The sources don't need to be online, so a published review in a magazine / newspaper would work as well. (Although since this is new, I guess those could be hard to find). And while people do use the primary texts (or movies) for summaries, we still need to have a secondary source (or two) to show that the subject is notable. Still, I'll go ahead and tag the article as a work-in-progress. That should give you some time to see if you can come across any sources. Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 06:01, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Done. If you don't find anything, feel free to ask these guys for some help: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Literature and Wikipedia:WikiProject_Russia. I don't know if it'll help much, but you could always drop a line on their pages and see if they can contribute. Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 06:05, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I posted on Wikipedia Project Russia a demand for help. I had no answer for now.

Think I'll just make some research to see what Wikipedia thinks about sources in foreign language (I've found the page once, but lost the link) SaniOKh 18:40, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

English Wikipedia has no problems with sources in other languages: we have all ethicities here to read and verify, and certainly plenty of Russophones. It is only that English language sources are really preferrable and desirable. `'Míkka 23:06, 5 October 2007 (UTC)