Talk:Yevgeni Shevchuk

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[edit] Birthplace

In the article is written that Shevchuk was born in Rybnitsa in 1968. However, in the List of persons from Transnistria who had travel restriction in European union is listed "7. SHEVCHUK, EVGENY, “Vice-chairman of the Supreme Soviet”, born on 21 June 1946 in Novosibirsk. Old Soviet passport No A25004230." [1] Is the same person or a relative (maybe father?) of Yevgeni Shevchuk from this article?--MariusM 15:09, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

I would not put it beyond Brussels bureaucracy to have made a bureaucratic error somewhere. If you see some of the other names on their list, there are missing data and errors there, too. "This" Yevgeny Shevchuk is an ethnic Ukrainian from Rybnitsa. In the referendum, 17 September, he voted in Rybnitsa. That is his electoral district. - Mauco 15:20, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Was "our" Shevchuk “Vice-chairman of the Supreme Soviet”? Or it was his father? Of course he is living now in Rybnitsa, but this doesn't mean the impossibility of being born in Novosibirsk. I saw Tiraspol Times claiming that Shevchuk is from Rybnitsa, but not convinced yet.--MariusM 15:56, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes, that is the same guy. In the parliamentary session which ended December 2005 he was a member of Parliament (and Grigore Maracuta was the Speaker). Then, Shevchuk's party won. He now holds the majority in Parliament which means that he could be elected Speaker. He is a Ukrainian from Rybnitsa which is listed in many places, included in the latest ICG report (August 2006) after they interviewed him. I don't know anything about his father except that he is variously referred to as a basic worker or farm worker. - Mauco 16:02, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Despite what you may think about Tiraspol Times, it is actually a really reliable source. They are biased (which means that they report favorably on one side of the story, and not the other) but if you can read through that, their facts are beyond reproach. Remember that I actually spent several hours a week ago in factchecking one of their stories. I also think that it is impressive that they have a page like http://www.tiraspoltimes.com/getthefacts.html which takes guts and which you almost never see anywhere else in other newspapers. - Mauco 16:02, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shevchuk comments about possible union of Transnistria with Romania

In 23 february 2006 the press agency "Rusia la zi" (Russia actualized), which ussualy is showing Russia's positions, told that Shevchuk made a comment that an union of Transnistria with Romania is possible as "our people are friends (...) Over 30000 of our students learned in the Universities of Romania".[2] (sory, the source is only in Romanian, but I found no English version). As primary source is stated www.km.ru. Can somebody who knows Russian to check the accuracy of such remarks? He made other remarks which are not in line with this one.--MariusM 16:42, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Marius, it is a shame that you don't know Russian because that is the primary language of Transnistria. It would help you check facts and get a more well-rounded view of Transnistria (which you have never visited, and which you know from the English language and Romanian language texts on the Internet). But if you want to check www.km.ru, there are some online translators which may come in handy, for instance Babelfish. Try http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ru_en&trurl=http://www.km.ru - just a friendly suggestion, I hope that it is helpful. - Mauco 16:52, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
I thought you can check directly, as I gave the source and date (aproximate, as in can be few days in advance at www.km.ru). Same situation in Union of Moldavians in Pridnestrovie, where I gave a link in english with refference at Olvia Press, and you refuse to check Olvia Press.--MariusM 17:49, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
I check Olvia Press all the time, but your link over there in that article does not convince me that your argument has any merit. - Mauco 18:07, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
It's a shame you pretend to understand Transnistria if you don't know Romanian.--MariusM 17:49, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
I can read and understand Romanian, I can just not speak it. - Mauco 18:06, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

I asked a native Russian language speaker to check www.km.ru to see if Shevchuk's statement is there, and the answer was that he didn't find it. While double-check by other Russian speakers will be wellcome, I suppose is only a forgery of Russian-propaganda agency in Romanian language "Rusia la zi". The question that remains for me is "why?".--MariusM 13:53, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't rule it out, but there may also be another simple reason: Shevchuk is a politician. They are used to saying one thing one day, and another thing the next. Sometimes they say things that the audience likes to hear, to get votes or whatever, and when they are with another audience they "change their tune" a bit. I am not saying that this is Shevchuk's case with this particular comment. But it could be. In another (somewhat similar) case he stated earlier this year that he thought UN peacekeepers would be a good idea, sort of like Kosovo. This he said to a forum in London via telelink, but the voters back home in Transnistria got upset, and wanted to try him for treason or something like that. Nothing ever happened, but since then, his statements have been more "pro independence." So I observe things like that and to me, he is just a politician. - Mauco 13:59, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Update: Official webpage from Transnistria's parliament on Shevchuk http://www.vspmr.org/Deputy/?JTID=46 - Mauco 17:02, 28 September 2006 (UTC)