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Contents 1 History of Yemen 2 Demographics 3 Longitude 4 Culture? 5 Sana'a 6 Human Rights (Shiaa)

[edit] History of Yemen

The history (on this page and all of the history pages) is very vague about the origins of Yemen itself, the word, the modern concept. Has this area always been called Yemen? When it was incorporated into other empires in ancient times was Yemen considered a place? Or is Yemen a modern creation. Or to put it a different way, is there a mountain range or some geographic feature to the north that defines the border? I looked it up because I saw that Saudi Arabia was most of the peninsula, and I was curious how the tip ended up being different countries... the info I sought wasn't really here.

[edit] Demographics

Please help improve this article or section by expanding it. Further information might be found on the talk page or at requests for expansion. (October 2007)

A question about Yemen's Demographics: I have read that Yemen has a native black population who do not have recent African origin. It is believed that these people are decendants of the first wave of people to leave Africa thousands of years ago. There are only a few populations of these people that still exist. The Andamanese are one of the more famous groups from that lineage.

There is no mention of these people in the demographics section. Is there actually a native, non-african, black population who have been omitted, or do these people not actually exist? It would be good if someone who actually lives or has lived in Yemen could clarify this for me. Thanks.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 211.30.68.206 (talk • contribs) 09:36, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

There is a statistic for the Shia/Sunni Split in Yemen being 13-15/85-88 and as its citation it links to the Yemen embassy in Canada site, however I visited that site and the Yemen Embassy in Canada says that there are 55% Sunnis and 42% Shia, I am changing it to reflect the information of the cited site —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.52.215.67 (talk) 23:25, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

In page about North Yemen it is said it had population of some 7 milion in 1990. In page abouth South Yemen, it is said that it had population of some 2,6 milion in 1990. And just 20 years later, unified Yemen has population of some 23 milion? How come? —Preceding unsigned comment added by YossarianBa (talk • contribs) 20:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Longitude

The factual accuracy of this article is disputed. Please see the relevant discussion on the talk page. (March 2008)

Longitude "12d 24m E" of the capital is wrong. Also say "the population" instead of "the size, in terms of population". --User:Jidanni 2006-07-24

I fixed the phrasing, at least. -- Beland 23:35, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Culture?

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why is ONLY Qat under culture? Yemen has a FAR richer culture than some leaf you chew, refer to www.myspace.com/yemeni_culture.com, -Mokha 128.208.35.227 22:57, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sana'a

Could someone clarify why Sana'a population is listed as being larger than the governate it is in? Does it extend beyond the governate, or are these numbers from two different years, or are they just wrong, or what? -- Beland 23:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

the population listed is wrong —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.250.55.144 (talk) 19:50, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Sana'a population listed is not city population, the city proper is separate governorate Amanat al Simah and so capital population is not included in Sana'a governorate as capital is not its part. The population numbers are official 2004 national census Bogomolov.PL (talk) 06:14, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Human Rights (Shiaa)

The Zaydi Shiaa's are not discriminated against. All presidents and powerful military leaders of Northern Yemen and of united Yemen are of Zaydi orgin. But the problem with Al-Houthi is a new problem with the extremist militant Zaydi group called Al-Shabab Al-Mo'men. It only involves a few thousand fighters it does not involve the millions of Shia's in Yemen. The supreme Shiaa council and its leader are unknown to most people. I tried searching for it on the internet and only found the mentioned quote. Thinking that the president was advised to kill all shia's is really stupid because he would not kill his own tribe in such a tribal country. Wikiarabia (talk) 12:46, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

The mentioned reference is a blog and is not considered a reliable source. What the reference says makes no sense and was not published in any newspaper. The reference only contains the quote by the head of the Supreme Yemeni Shia and does not say anything about discrimination against shia's.

This is a link to a more unbiased report about the Saada war.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/shabab-al-moumineen.htm

This link confirms that the president himself is Zaidi.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6331149.stm

If you insist on putting the quote by the shia supreme council you have to put the other side of the story.

Wikiarabia (talk) 13:27, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

1. The first sentence claiming that Zaidiyyah Shias are subject to abuse by the government is not mentioned in any of your references. This is User:Zeydi's opinion and should be removed.

2. The quote form the Chief of the Yemeni Supreme SHia Council. This Council is unheard of. I tried searching google in both Arabic and English and the only thing I could find was this quote. This council doesn't even have a website. There is no name for the Cheif of the Council. There is no way he could know what advice is given to the president. Even if all this were true why should this be put in the Human Rights section of Yemen if the President received bad advice from some Iraqi advisors. Besides the President himself is Shia(FACT) and his tribe are Shia(FACT) and in such a tribal country he would not kill his own tribe so this whole quote doesn't make any sense.

3. Al-Sistani's opinion is biased simply because he is a religious Shia figure who has never been to Yemen he was only told the story from the Shia rebels. I accept leaving this sentence but you should also add a sentence quoting somebody from the Yemeni government calling those Shia'a rebels Terrorists so you could have all points of view.

4. I don't see what the quote from Nizar Hamzeh has to do with the Human Rights of Shia muslims. Besides that is a personal opinion of some Academic.

5. All what User:Zeydi has written is one side of the story. There must be another side which is the war that his been going on since 2004 because this is the main cause of everything mentioned by User:Zeydi.

6. There should be a separation between the vast majority of Shia Muslims in Yemen and Al-Houthi's followers. There is no discrimination against Shia Muslims in General and here are some examples (remember Shias are about 40% of the population):

A. The current President and all previous presidents (of northern Yemen) were Zaydi Shia (FACT) B. All official Mofti's of the Republic of Yemen were Zaydi Shia (FACT) C. The Big Mosque in Sana'a (the Capital) is a Zaydi Shia mosque and the Friday Prayer in this mosque is shown everyweek on national TV (FACT) D. The president's relatives are the most powerful people in the country and they're mostly Zaydi Shia (FACT).Wikiarabia (talk) 09:31, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Since there is an unbiased article on the Sa'dah insurgency which explains everything about that war I suggest having a short paragraph like this:

Since the start of the Sa'dah insurgency hundreds of Zaydi Shia's accused of supporting Al-Houthi have been arrested and held without charge or trial. Some Zaydis reported harassment and discrimination by the Government because they were suspected of sympathizing with the al-Houthis. However, it appears the Government's actions against the group were probably politically, not religiously, motivated. Wikiarabia (talk) 10:12, 27 May 2008 (UTC)