Talk:Yellow jersey statistics

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[edit] Persons in italics are still alive?

I like the idea, but only the non-bold names of people still alive are in italics. Last time I check Lance Armstrong was still alive. I'll go through and italicize all the still alive winners if I get a chance, but I thought I'd point it out in case anyone wants to do it before I get around to it. GoodnightmushTalk 12:02, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't understand you... The article says the italic names are persons still active, not still alive. And Lance Armstrong is no longer active, last time I checked. Go ahead and italicize all the still active winners if you'd like to, but you will see that I already did that.--Pie.er 13:48, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Whoops...just ignore everything I said. I was confused. GoodnightmushTalk 19:42, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Guido Bontempi

I was creating the article of Guido Bontempi and I found out that he won the prologue of 1988 Tour de France, so he most likely wore the maillot jaune in the first stage. I could change the article but I don't know if the Per country section already counts that yellow jersey. Do you know any other cyclists missing?Drunt 12:12, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
According to the Tour de France site, [1], Bontempi won no stage in 1988. According to this page, the prologue of 1988 was won by Steve Bauer, who is on this list. Can you specify where you found that Bontempi won 1988's prologue? --Pie.er 16:43, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Interesting this one: On the ASO page for the 1988 Tour ([2]), there is the comment "organizers experiment with a Preface instead of a Prologue(it only lasts one year)". This isn't reflected in the second link above... I wonder what it was and how this fits... SeveroTC 17:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Having gone to a familiar source ( http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/ ), I found this page, which makes an interesting comment at the bottom. For ease, here is the text translated to English using Babelfish:

UCl reduced the number of days of race. It is thus not a prologue, but a "prelude" to indicate the first yellow jersey. Each team sends a runner which traverses the kilometer against the watch.

SeveroTC 17:26, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, I was not aware of that prelude. Interesting situation. How to deal with this? I think it is not "fair" to include it, because only 22 cyclists had a change to win this yellow jersey. On the other hand, I am not here to judge the TdF rules, so if they gave a jersey, it should be included. I am now thinking of including it with a remark, but I will wait some time to see if somebody else can think of a bit more elegant solution. --Pie.er 07:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I think that's probably the best way to go. SeveroTC 17:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Doubling up of sites

It seems to me that this site and the "yellow jersey" site are about the same thing and that much of the detail could be merged. At the least, I'd suggest a cross-reference. What do you think? Les woodland (talk) 17:16, 9 December 2007 (UTC)les woodland

At first I didn't understand what you mean, but I see that lots of information has been added to the Yellow jersey-article since I last looked there. Still, this article is more "table"-based, while the yellow jersey-article is more "story"-based, if you know what I mean. A merge could work, but it would take some time to do it I guess. Time that I don't want to spend ;) If you want to try it, go ahead. The cross-reference I don't think I understand, you mean that the pages should be linked to each other? That they already are... --Pie.er (talk) 08:55, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
A merge wouldn't work, the article would be too long. It's a nice split of information as it is. SeveroTC 12:41, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
It's nice that there is a split, but I think some of the information on Yellow jersey better fits here... Or not?--Pie.er (talk) 16:00, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
To be honest, I've always seen this article as a list article, so better off without stories. We could perhaps work towards getting this to be a featured list? SeveroTC 16:23, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Sure, this is a list article. But from the Yellow jersey-article, the sections "Three riders in yellow" and "No riders in yellow" are almost lists. I try to reduce my wikipedia-time, so I have to decline the offer to work together to make this list featured. Although occasionally I will do something to help the article ;) --Pie.er (talk) 18:33, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes perhaps they could be added to this article as well (although as lists?). I don't have so much Wikipedia time either so we'll leave that idea for now! SeveroTC 18:41, 10 December 2007 (UTC)