Talk:Yasmin Alibhai-Brown
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[edit] Criticism
[Formatting removed] In her writing, she often present herself as liberal voice of muslim. However, her muslim >>background is ismaili, considered to be a heretical sect by most muslim. This fact is rarely spelt out by her in most of her newspaper columns. Many muslim consider that she is >>exploiting British ignorance of muslim faith, and merely exploiting the title of muslim to present herself as some sort of bridge between islam and the west.
I have deleted this for several reasons.
1. If Alibhai-Brown presents herself as such a voice, there should be a citation to support the claim.
2. There should be a source for her background.
3. There should be a source for the claim that that background is not only considered heretical, but considered heretical by "most" Muslims. At the very least, if this is a common criticism of Alibhai-Brown, there should be a citation of someone making that criticism.
4. If "many muslims" think she is exploiting British ignorance, there should be a cited source for "many muslims" thinking such a thing. If it's a common criticism by some muslims, they should be cited.
--Dannyno 09:52, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
- Ahh, If i quote, it actually going to sound worse. But hey, that is what you asked. FWBOarticle
You might want to create "Political Stance" section to explain more about her view. This would give better balance. FWBOarticle
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- I note you call "Ismali" "a minor heretic sect". How is this in line with the wikipedia article on Ismali, which says that it is the "second largest Shi'a community"? You may want to try and word it so it is less POV. --Dannyno 17:05, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
- Shi'a is minority within muslim. I guess, "British muslim" is more appropriate. FWBOarticle
- To be honest, what she say even contradict even ismali line of theology. But that is a detail most Brits wouldn't notice or won't care. She probably don't annoy muslim if she declare that she is not a muslim but that just ruin the show, I guess. FWBOarticle 07:15, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
- Shi'a is minority within muslim. I guess, "British muslim" is more appropriate. FWBOarticle
- I note you call "Ismali" "a minor heretic sect". How is this in line with the wikipedia article on Ismali, which says that it is the "second largest Shi'a community"? You may want to try and word it so it is less POV. --Dannyno 17:05, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Nonsense statistics only destroy your credibility: Ismailis "make up around .02% of the global Muslim population". At say 20m of 1500m (ballpark figures) that's one-ish per cent. There was no source given for the figure, though the number is irrelevant in an article about YA-B. By the way if they think she ain't a Muslim, how can they hold her treacherous?--SilasW (talk) 11:07, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] "Deportation"
- She was also concerned over threats to deport her mother, and that accepting the award might have exacerbated the situation.
This is utter bollocks. She accepted the award (or so she claims) in part to reassure her mother that she herself wouldn't (as a "dissident" - hah!) be deported. From the Indy column:
- Until this MBE, Jena, my mother, was constantly fearful that we would be deported from this country because I am so strident a dissenter. What happened in Uganda still affects Asians. Her panicky heart settled after she saw and touched the rather beautiful piece in its satin folds.
Removed. EdC 01:36, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Islam
Yasmin Alibhai-Brown's knowledge about is islam is very limited if not none, for me she is some one Who is a bit confused.
[edit] This is an unacceptably biased wiki entry.
It has clearly been put together by people hostile to Alibhai-Brown, and it has a tone of malice and a lack of balance that are clearly contrary to the wiki guidlines. How is quoting an anoymous commnenter - and what they "may" have said - legitimate?
This is an understandable reaction by the victims of her bigotry towards the english. If she was white she would be seen as a racist. Racism still seems a one-way street where the least racist (whites) are the only ones subject to the 'adult' rules of racism. This exemption for others leads to a natural feeling of contempt for those who don't have to play by the same rules, yet have not even begun the process of anti-racism within their cultures, leaving them further behind than they already were. Those of us who know Uganda well and know about the natives' hatred of the asian population (who own most of the businesses and treat the blacks so appallingly), find this woman's views repulsive and hipocritical.
[edit] Honour
Apparently she has rejected her honour and i suggest the MBE should be removed on the article. This was cited on todays the wright stuff 81.104.241.139 16:54, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
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- See this comment from her on honours: These shameless honours dishonour us all. It says that she was awarded the MBE but sent it back. The MBE ought to be removed, and a note on the awarding/returning added to the article. --Dannyno 21:02, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
- That has now been added to the article; I also removed her from the category, since presumably if you reject membership, you are not considered to be a member of the Order.--Gloriamarie 09:57, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
- See this comment from her on honours: These shameless honours dishonour us all. It says that she was awarded the MBE but sent it back. The MBE ought to be removed, and a note on the awarding/returning added to the article. --Dannyno 21:02, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] This is an unacceptable entry and needs to change
Indeed, one of the editors above candidly admits his bias. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.158.2 (talk) 00:07, 15 May 2008 (UTC)