Talk:Yandere

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[edit] Euphie

While I don't generally object to "original research", I would like to point out that she's a conspicuously bad example of yandere. It draws the sense that anyone can be yandere if they're A) a girl, B) become evil later. Maloncanth 17:15, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spoilers

Don't you guys think the spoilers need to be tagged or ridden of?

I tried to tag them before, but they were later removed under WP:SPOILER, and the examples need a full description since without the description, they're worthless in decribing how they're yandere characters.--十八 11:33, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Changing wording

I took the liberty to change "a person is initially cranky and then later turns spoony" (the short description of Tsundere) to "a person is initially combative and then later becomes loving and emotionally vulnerable." The original wording was... not the best.

--WonRei 04:49, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Changes

I've changed the definition of yandere for improved accuracy in the following areas:

1. Removed the sentence connecting yandere to tsundere as the two terms describe character types which are not related; a yandere suffers from a psychological illness, whereas a tsundere just stand-offish and/or cold.

2. Added to the description of a yandere character to include their heightened aggressiveness, presence of psychotic episodes, and traumatic psychological stress in their pasts.

Changed School Days to a visual novel from a video games.

I was going to replace Kotonoha with Yoshimi Satou from Tsuyokiss as Kotonoha is not a yandere character and Yoshimi adds an example of a non-homicdal yandere, but have left the Examples section unchanged out of respect for the author. I advise removing or changing Kotonoha's place in this section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GUTB (talk • contribs) 23:22, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

3. Just wanted to point out the fact that Yuna from Maburaho isn't Yandere at all. If we're referring to Dark Yuna, that's a clone with an opposite personality. She's not yandere at all. If we're referencing Yuna with her usual reactions towards the other characters affection and advances on her boyfriend, then that's also not yandere at all as it's not like she's threatening their lives or has any intention in killing them. Because of this, I'll be deleting Yuna from the article. (Sorry! But it's true! She's not psycho!) --ChikageFD (talk) 14:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Prod

I am against the deletion of either yandere or tsundere as they are relatively important terms found in Category:Anime and manga terminology, and might I add, are some of the few that are actually referenced. Even if the references do come from blogs, tsundere is found in a vast amount of anime/manga series, and while yandere is found not as much, it has gained notability in the past few years based on the recent developments of such characters, which can be viewed in that article. I would recommend that if you want to continue with the proposed deletion, list the articles at WP:AFD so we can start an overall discussion on the issue on an appropriate sub-page, because currently I do not believe there would be enough discussion in just five days time if the templates were kept.--十八 01:33, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Source Material

Here's something bothering me. The yandere versions of Kaede Fuyou and Kirino Konosaka only exist in the anime adaptations of SHUFFLE! and Gift, respectively. I've already made a mention about the yandere version of Kaede, but I don't know how to add my other point into the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HashiriyaGDB (talk • contribs) 22:25, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I tried to clarify that they were anime-only events.--十八 23:29, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] School Days/ Shuffle

Are characters from School Days and Shuffle really the best primary examples for this? I mean, I know that the two are pretty popular among "deep" anime fans, but beyond that the two are unknown to "regular" anime fans, and therefore give no help to them in understanding the term. I bring this up because the tsundere article brings up Naru, Kyoko, and Madoka, all of which are helpful and understood by regular people, but referencing such obscure series such as School Days and Shuffle doesn't really help people trying to understand the true nature of Yandere. I can't think of any better examples at the moment, but I thought I should bring it up. Jopojelly (talk) 07:27, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Kotonoha and Kaede, though, are the two primary examples most often cited by people who are talking about yandere, so they deserve to be here the most I'd say. They're not really that obscure as Shuffle! was recently licensed by FUNimation, and School Days sparked the "NICE BOAT" Internet meme, not to mention its infamous delaying of airing the final episode on TV which sparked the meme itself. Even not taking the anime into account, School Days has been famous from the original game with the three bloody ends the game can end on. Also, it doesn't help that the yandere term isn't really that well known out of "deep" anime fan circles as you put it, though that's one of the reasons which makes writing an article on it difficult. The only other well-known examples of yandere are in Higurashi no Naku Koro ni, but tell me if you come across more less "obscure" series to cite as examples.--十八 08:38, 8 March 2008 (UTC)