Talk:Yakovlev Yak-38

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[edit] Development sequence 36 - 38 - 41

Yak-41 is quite different aircraft (as compared to 36/38 and Harrier), but

  1. it continues the development line of 36/38 Yaks
  2. it fits just the same niche as all the others naval VTOLs

Hence, I'd preserve 36-38-41 line in all the refs. --jno 09:40, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Russian name?

There is an unofficial russian name for 36/38: "Russian: Военно-морской огурец" ("naval cucumber"). Do we need to list it on the page(s)? --jno 09:43, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Harrier

The Yak-38 is not contemporary to or anaologous to the Harrier II. It is equivilant to the original Harrier. The AV-8B is a more recent and much more capable machine. - Aerobird 00:44, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

agree! --jno 07:36, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thrust/Weight

Considering that this aircraft's only highlight is it's VTOL capability, wouldn't one assume it's thrust to weight ratio exceeded 1?

[edit] Rolling Takeoff

I'm reasonably certain that I've read an article by Bill Gunston that stated that the Yak 38 was in fact capable of a loaded rolling take off. Also the same article suggested that although the Forger had multi-role capability, it's primary role was local air defense for the fleet. Anyone able to verify either of these facts? 84.92.80.169 12:55, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Your right it was, I have delected that part from the article, I hope that ok. check this video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6mQUWDmsJc If watch a part 00.19 you see the Yak 38 performing a rolling take off. and on this page http://www.vectorsite.net/avredvt.html they state the yak 38 "with possible stores including external tanks; dumb bombs; unguided rocket pods; cannon pod; A-60 (AA-8 Aphid) heat-seeking air-to-air missiles (AAMs); and Kh-23 (AS-10 Karen) guided air-to-surface missiles (ASMs), which demanded carriage of a guidance pod on one of the pylons." so I'm assuming it was multirole. I hope that helps.

also I'm not sure if the Kiev Class is comparable to a Super Carrier like the Nimitz.

cheers,

Hmm. I'd thought that Forger didn't do STOVL...interesting. As for the Kievs, they are in no way shape or form comparable to a Nimitz. In their original configuration, as hybrid carrier-cruisers, the closest Western comparision would be the RN's Invincibles, or perhaps one of the USN's Tarawa-class ships (if you stretch things a bit). The modifications to Gorshkov for India put it in the league of CVF or, perhaps, an modern version of an Essex-class carrier (way to small to compare to even a Midway).
Oh dear...MiG-29s on an Essex...must stop brainstorm now....
- Aerobird 15:15, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ukrainian Air Force?

Was the yak-38 really in the Ukrainian air force? How do we know this?

Yes, I've got these pictures of Yak-38s with Ukrainian markings, I can't remember where I saw them but I saved them, and uploaded them to photobucket, here have a look.

- Yak-38M, 22 March 2007


http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q209/lynx42/706b_P1010112.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q209/lynx42/83m-yak-38m-ukr-03.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q209/lynx42/83m-yak-38m-ukr-02.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q209/lynx42/18_1.jpg