User talk:Xyzzyplugh

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[edit] Regarding Sangar

Alright, even if what you say is right, that does not means that you will delete the entire stuff. You could have done or proposed me to do some editings.

By the way what made you keep "Sangar, New South Wales, a rural community in the Riverina region of Australia" stuff in there? Dont you think it is going on one and the same line with my information? The difference being the information that I provided was a bit elaborated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.84.75.188 (talk) 14:02, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Hey Xyzz... Whatever?

Do you have any problems with the short article on "Sangar...A Brahmin Community". If you cant contribute something fruitful or informational, then atleast dont try to play around and poke your nose into other's affair.

Well I think you have a lot of free time and no other work than to Disambiguate/Delete/Clean up Wiki.

[edit] Welcome!

Hello, Xyzzyplugh, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  - FrancisTyers 22:41, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

In accordance with the law I am making you aware of my intentions to persue legal action following the printing of libelous material by user 'Xyzzyplugh' I am offering the chance for the libelous material to be retracted. I will remind you that the onus in on the printer of the libelous material to prove beyond a reason of doubt that what they printed is true. Should the libelous material not be removed I will persue this action. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Biggilo (talk • contribs) 15:12, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Guilherme Tâmega

I was trying to find the time to tone down the article about Guilherme Tâmega, as a member of the eXtreme Sports project I´ve made it a duty! Did you have any suggestions as how to make this a better article and not an article that sucks? It´s hard not to praise a six-time world champion, but to be encyclopaedic is the rule around here... Loudenvier 17:15, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] XYZZY

I'm looking at your wiki handle and I'm getting a feeling of deja vu. I vaguely recall playing an ancient text adventure game designed for the IBM PC/XT. It was pretty cheesey but state-of-the-art for the PC at the time. (I'm thinking the 1984-5 timeframe.) I think XYZZY was some sort of secret code or something. (I'm also recalling the word "Plover." I think that was also in the game, too.)

Does your handle have anything to do with that ancient game? --Schnazola 00:52, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

It does indeed. The adventure game you're talking about is more ancient than you even realize, it was originally written in the 70's and run on mainframe computers. Here's a link to a page on it: http://www.rickadams.org/adventure/ --Xyzzyplugh 13:45, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
I was aware of the code from here: You are standing in an open field west of a white house... --tjstrf 03:06, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Dungeon (the DEC PDP-10 version), which later became Zork on IBM PCs was my first exposure to computer games. I still think of this game as one of the best examples of the technology of the time, so it hasn't lost its lustre for me. Sadly, I never did find out where to use the phrase "Hello, Sailor" without getting the response "Nothing happens here." :-(( -- Slowmover 14:49, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
just noticed the name, and it made me look. I played at home, on an Osborne linked at (was it 600) baud to the university mainframe. Twisty little passages all the same, indeed. About 1982? Jd2718 22:36, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Hello Sailor is used in Zork 3 to get the invisibility potion. Alinnisawest —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.10.48.39 (talk) 04:31, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] PRODding images

Hi Xyzzyplugh. I noticed you nominated a number of images for PRODding. According to PROD guidelines, images need to go through WP:IfD, rather than PROD, since their removal is permanent and irreversible. You could probably bundle them all into one nomination there. Joyous | Talk 14:51, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Oops! Thanks for letting me know. --Xyzzyplugh 14:51, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Most Wanted

Dood - thank you for creating articles in the portal of eternal fraternal love. The quality of your work is mind boggling and people are ecstatically screaming your name from afar - you are surely a God of sorts? However, I should probably point out that you don't need to striketrhough articles which are finished i.e.. blue. It is our custom to simply remove them from the list - and strikethrough the evil red links which for various strange and mythical reasons does not need to be created.

Also, you seem new to this game so it would probably be prudent to tell you that it is the norm to respond to the talk page of the people who write stuff on your talk page. Like, I won't know if you have responded if you just write it here and I will easily forget to check your talk-page or simply assume you never came online again - which would be sad if you did come online.

Thank you for your contributions and keep up the good work. It's great to have you here :) Celcius 17:21, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Renominating articles for AFD

To renominate an article for a second time, use {{subst:afdx|2nd}} instead of {{subst:afd}} on the page. I would go and do it now, but it's moot because the page was already re-deleted. Incidentally, you can use the {{db-repost}} tag to request deletion of a page that's identical to one which has already been removed. Stifle 17:38, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Don't delete my article.

You recently recommended an article I wrote on someone's webcomic for deletion, and I'm extremely annoyed at this snobbish decision. There are other webcomics listed on this site. A comic needs a wiki entry to be on the webcomics list, too. Why did you not recommend all the other webcomic articles for deletion? Why exactly do they deserve mention? All this is doing is reassuring the popularity of already popular webomics and saying other ones, which people may still seek information on, don't deserve a chance. This is ridiculous and anyone who supports this annoys me greatly. I do not create the webcomic but I do talk to the person who does. He was really happy that someone wrote a Wikipedia article and would be crushed if you removed it. It is not spam and the few fans the comic has appreciate the article. Using rules that apply to generic Websites for Webcomics is pretty silly anyway. Someone told me that this article would be deleted, and I honestly didn't think anyone existed that would be that anal. Please just leave it as it is. I will also be updating it with more information with time. This webcomic was once a very well known thing for a community of messageboards(Sonic Cult, Sonic Classic, Sonic the Hedgehog Area51, Simon Wai's Sonic 2 Beta, ask anyone from these boards about it) and it deserves a mention somewhere for that. User:Kittie Rose

Yeah, and Xyzzphuck should also IMPROVE the article on slapping rather than just dishing out insults at it! Can we at least agree on that?! --172.145.185.208 02:53, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Argh.

You are a very smug and arrogant person and are getting on my nerves.

First off, I am aware of the rules but I think they are ridiculously strict, and if it wasn't for you being so ridiculously anal, nobody else would have noticed. I'm sorry, but to me, you're the arrogant little suck up who doesn't care who his "ratting on" hurts.

Secondly, while i do not write the comic normally, I do help out and write some, and I am having art published in a major comic book soon. Major Media Achor #1. Secondly, Deven Gallo, who the characters were based off, and another creative mind in the early days, appeared on TechTV. So a "famous" person was involved on this. Major Media Achor #2.

Thirdly, expanding on the first point, Webcomics are not the same as garage bands. Why? There are only so many webcomic authors that are going to bother to make wikipedia articles. There are thousands of garage band artists who will. A Webcomic is something freely and easily searchable on the internet, a band may not even have a website. This webcomics was the foundation of much humour for an entire community. Unfortunately, it never got a mention on a front page as it was a messageboard thing. But I think this makes it of relevance to be mentioned on the site, as that community is mentioned in several [i]Sonic the Hedgehog[/i] related articles.

I don't feel I'm reasoning with a human being here, but with a smug machine, so I guess this is all in vein. Though I hope you take pleasure in hurting the comic's author, because apparently you do. I hope you reconsider, but I don't see you having a shred of human interest or common sense, which is a pity. If you recommend this article for deletion again, you are a rather pitiful internet user, much like the "Blammers" on newgrounds. Go find a better hobby, please.

User:Kittie Rose


[edit] Personal Attacks?

So I was right. You ARE a suckup. And; that is a 100% correct observation, not a personal attack. If you're going to destroy things dear to people and not give a crap, you have to be prepared to take some backlash for it. You remind me of forum trolls who provoke people into a response, and then report their posts and have them banned. Your inability to defend your points shows that I may as well be talking to a machine. Another fact, even if it is rather insulting, it is merely a measure of the frustration you cause.

[edit] Crum-dubh

Crum-dubh or Crom-dubh was a REQUESTED article in the mythology section previously, and is a PROPER noun. As it speaks about a legendary idol/god, I think it is perfectly encyclopedic. The quote is to put it in context.

Please tell me why you think otherwise. --MacRusgail 19:51, 19 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] The Sun

Seriously, I've been grappling with Michael Tang all day, and that was the hardest I've laughed in a long time. And yes, beer did come out my nose. TKE 02:28, 20 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] THE GAME

Look, if you think that THE GAME should be deleted, why don't you delete the first entry for The Game, which is to forget it's existance. However, I don't see why there should be a website on google when I list the site here. If I could, I would have gotten the site to google already, but I can't, and nether can my friends who created the site. Please remove the deletion. This website's purpose is to hear everyone's voice and point of view, and the deletion of one article when it isn't even ONE DAY OLD is an attack on this.

User:Shadowfire42

[edit] Talk:Memegarden

I deleted this article previously, using the Prod tag. And now it's been remade, and "deleted" again. Except this "deletion" can be reverted using a few clicks of the mouse by anyone, not even needing a user account. Yay experimental deletion! --Xyzzyplugh 13:39, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

So, your hard-deletion was undone when someone re-created the article. Now you're objecting to XD because it can be undone also? Do you see how silly that is? This is a wiki, what's done can nearly always be easily undone. If you see disadvantages to XD, you should share them at Wikipedia talk:Experimental Deletion. I don't currently see that there are any unanswered objections to the process, but we're always looking for more input. Friday (talk) 15:02, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Danis Cocktail

As to whether the cocktail should be included in Wikibook or elsewhere. A google search or MSN search of the Danis Cocktail will show its been around awhile. Had one in England recently, and in the the Bahamas last winter. Dr. Dan 18:29, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zombie

Yes, the link now works, and I see the recipe (as of about 12 hours ago, when I tried it again this morning). When I reverted the Zombie article twice yesterday, however, the link either did NOT work, or it had not been placed there. There was a link to Cocktails or Bartending in general, or whatever, but no specific Zombie link, or at least none that worked. Hence my reversions.... Hayford Peirce 02:44, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cocktail not on wikibooks?

Hi Xyzzyplugh, I don't mind if the Strawberry Dream cocktail is moved to wikibooks, but I can't see it at the http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Transwiki:Strawberry_Dream page. Do you happen to know where it has gone? -- All the best, Nickj (t) 05:58, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Proposed event policy for Wikicalendar

Hey, I recently posted some ideas about developing criteria for what should and should not be listed on Wikicalendar events at the Wikicalendar's talk page. Since you're actively involved in this project and requested critera before, I thought I'd let you know so that you can comment or add more suggestions. Thanks :). Fabricationary 23:44, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TB2

Just revert it again in that case, the bot shouldn't revert again. Its a tiny problem with smaller copyvios but on the whole that's less than .05% of the edits the bot makes -- Tawker 14:45, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ticklebugs

This was not a complete fabrication. I grant the term is probably widespread enough to be considered an encyclopedic topic. However, I'm sure my family are not the only ones.

My post on that other website was that people had taken this content, word for word, and reused it. Presumably this was done without verification. 10:26, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Los Tres Hermanos

I smell spam in the sudden rush of keep votes from fans with no other edits on your AFD for Los Tres Hermanos. Yomangani 10:49, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Interwiki:Transwiki:Aristophrenia

Your Post: Are you sure the creation of the page Interwiki:Transwiki:Aristophrenia, and its continuing existence, are necessary? I transwikied a bunch of articles at one point and never created any interwiki pages in the process. --Xyzzyplugh 15:33, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

  • My Response: Dunno. I was trying to follow the instructions, which I'm fairly sure I bungled to a certain extent. You're free to do with that page what you wish, as I agree that I can't see much necessity for it, either. It was my first attempt at a transwiki. — NMChico24 19:08, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Murasel

hi xy i welcome your input i am in the middle of making this entry more informative, this is my first time contributing to wikipedia. Please give me pointers on all of the points where i am lacking. I am goingo to add alot more content, just getting the hang of all the aspects. I am a little tired today because i worked 12 hours today but the entry should be spruced up even more, one of the references listed, the sites one will be used even more then the one reference to zarqawi already. leadership, the use of murasel in such movements, and the al-fajr media center, and its place within the theological framewrok established through the naming of things will be examined, as well as the actual behavior of "murasel" who I am currently examing in detail in an anthroplogical manner right now.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Elchasai"

[edit] Re:Requests

Thanks.--Keepin it real, Baby Phat 22:58, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lychee Martini

Hi, the afd result was to transwiki to wikibooks cookbook, and you said you've done that before (I haven't). If you have the time, I'd appreciate if you could do that so it can get deleted, thanks. - Bobet 13:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for your help. - Bobet 14:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cement Mixer

Hi Xyzzyplugh, this in in response to the question you posted on my talk page. Yes, you understood my edit comment correctly. It doesn't appear in the page history because it was deleted as a result of the first prod nomination. Here is a link to the deletion log that shows the previous deletion: [1] So procedurally, it can't be prodded again. It would have to go to AfD if you still want to see it deleted. Regards, Accurizer 19:37, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi again, I agree with your approach. By the way the first sentence on your user page is good ... made me laugh. See you around! Accurizer 19:51, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cookie dough

Personally, I try to reserve using the {{expand}} tag for articles which are not already marked with {{stub}}, as all stubs need to be expanded. Also, regarding your comment on the talk page, an article's length (or lack thereof) has no bearing on whether or not it should be deleted. Isopropyl 14:59, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] terrible template (Ryulong RfA)

I don't know how others see it, but I quite agree with your assessment. Cheers. :) Dlohcierekim 13:36, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD

Hi, before you follow up on that Joy Bang AfD, I just speedied the article. Kind regards, --JoanneB 13:40, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I hoped I'd saved you the trouble :) Anyway, I've closed the AfD as speedy delete. Kind regards, --JoanneB 13:51, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grand Theftendo

Hello, Xyzzy. On the Grand Theftendo AfD, your comment was: "Delete Recreate the article if/when the game is actually released and has gotten some press coverage. Wp:not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_crystal_ball" With all due respect, did you see my keep vote, where I gave links to mentions of the game in 1UP, Slashdot, and Electronic Gaming Monthly? Do these not count as press coverage? Note that I have absolutely no vested interest in the game, aside from being a huge GTA fan. I simply feel that there are certainly arguments for keeping the article. -- Kicking222 01:01, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Woeps, you answered on the wrong talk page. -- Koffieyahoo 01:26, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Understood. I greatly appreciate the clarification. -- Kicking222 01:47, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cancelled Virtual Boy games

Now that Out of the Deathmount is deleted, are you really going to nominate ALL of the cancelled Virtual Boy articles for deletion? I can understand doing it for ones that have as little information as that one but some have much more info. Also I suggest that if Star Fox (Virtual Boy) can't keep it's article, that it is instead merged with the article about Virtual Boy tech demos (linked in that article) SNS 17:03, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Well unless something completely unexpected happens, it looks like the result of the discussion will be merge. So when is the discussion going to close & is anyone planning to do the merge? If I do it, it has to be today because tomorrow I am leaving on vacation. SNS 22:46, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] BreakmanX.com restored

This article, which you proposed for deletion and was subsequently deleted, has been restored after its deletion was contested. I'm letting you know so you can decide whether you still want to nominate the article for deletion at WP:AFD. --Sam Blanning(talk) 21:38, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

man... this guy suffers from Promiscuous Deletion Syndrome. get a life ;)

[edit] rotten.com links

Thanks for the comments. First and foremost, looking at WP:EL, you'll notice this at the top of the page: "This page is a style guide for Wikipedia." It's a guide, not an official policy. And even if it were, there's always WP:IAR. These points aside, you do make some interesting points. Your logic falls apart here, though: "written by an unknown person." Sound like Wikipedia to you? It does to me. For instance, I doubt if your real namy is Xyzzyplugh. There's nothing wrong with having a username that allows some anonymity, but it's a bit of a double standard to fault another site for having unsigned articles when this site, essentially, has the same thing. Wikipedia allows IP edits and allows users who do register to not disclose their real names. That's a step above 100% anonymity, I suppose, since the articles are "signed," but it's not that much different. It's not like everyone here is a scholar or some sort of authority and everyone who writes for the Rotten Library is a know-nothing simpleton; in fact, I wouldn't be too surprised if there's some crossover of writers between the two sites. The point is that it's impossible to determine who really wrote the articles on either site, except for those few Wikipedians who do disclose their real names and credentials.
Also, you point out that "Rotten.com's Library section basically consists of low quality encylopedia articles, low quality not in writing but in the fact that they're all unsourced." Personally, I find the Rotten Library to be a highly amusing and entertaining collection of articles; I've learned a lot from browsing it. Sure, some are of better quality than others, but that's definitely not something Wikipedians should use to fault another site. Thus, my interpretation of their quality is different from yours: I think they tend to be very high quality articles.
"As our External links sections are not a place to stick links to every on-topic web page in existence, I can't see why these belong, especially in the case of rotten.com library pages which are less informative than our own articles." That's true, our EL sections are not a place for "links to every on-topic web page in existence;" that would be ridiculous. However, claiming that the Rotten Library is "less informative than our own articles," though, is also up for debate. As I mentioned, I've learned a great deal from browsing the Rotten Library; it has articles relating to several topics on which Wikipedia's articles are sadly lacking in content. It seems that your biggest problem with the Rotten Library is that it is not Wikipedia. Actually, more specifically, that it is not run in the same fashion as Wikipedia. Who are we to say how another site should run its encyclopedia?
Your main issue with the Rotten Library seems to be its lack of sources. I won't argue this with you; many of its articles are definitely unsourced. However, if you're so concerned with article sources, I can point out hundreds of unsourced articles right here that you can work on.
Thanks again for the comments. --Myles Long 16:26, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Broken links

Sure, I'll try my best to get an updated database dump. My hard drive crashed a while back, haven't had a chance to fix the source code since then. Gimme a week, thanks!

[edit] IndoMie Mi Goreng

Mate, I think if you read the article you'll notice that it's very encyclopedic. It explains manythings about a well known product.

There is a small section that could be copied to the cookbook section but I think leaving it the way it is would be better.

--William Wang 04:16, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Birds on stamps

In the Articles for Deletion discussion for Birds on stamps, you voted delete based on the (terrible) article as written. However, it's been almost completely rewritten since your contribution. I thought you might want to take another look at the article and consider the current incarnation. Captainktainer * Talk 07:46, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CovenantD

I have left a note on his talk page. You should also be mindful of WP:3RRV. JoshuaZ 05:07, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uklandscape

No I didn't change my mind half way through, I didn't realize that I hadn't completed the process. Its been a while since I last nominated an article for deletion. The process has apparently changed somewhat in the past year. Thanks for the assist. --*Kat* 10:52, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CovenantD

User CovenantD has been bothering other editors the same way you claimed in his talk page.

I wrote him this: From my understanding you were blocked for 6 hours because of your 3RR violations in Clock King, please use the time to think about your actions. You've been a very inconsiderate user. the purpose of wikipedia is to make well sourced informative articles, not un sourced uninformative articles that don't ilustrate the content. If you don't like the topic, go to an article about a topic you like and provide research, tables, infoboxes and images according to guideline. Thank you--The Judge 02:10, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

If you ever need me to rv his rv's or an intervention write me a comment. --The Judge 02:19, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] tagging for moving to wikibooks

Hi,

Please don't put {{movetowikibooks}} in the edit comment when adding this tag to pages for transwiki, as it makes the page come out all screwy on the wb side when the edit history is copied over :). (I'm pretty sure I've seen you do this more than once... I'll add this to the template page too.)

--Your friendly neighborhood wikibookian, --SB_Johnny|talk|books 23:15, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] importing

I have yet to use the import feature, but I know that it negates the entire transwiki process, because it carries all the information that it needs with it, i.e. Histories, Talk page, etc. I will try one real quick and see what happens. - TheDaveRoss 01:00, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Ok, it apparently does nothing to your end (so we will just have to come over and note the import) and imports into the Transwiki namespace (which is good, you guys have your silly caps over here which would mess things up). :) wikt:User:Connel MacKenzie might know more about this, he has used the feature in the past quite a bit it seems. - TheDaveRoss 01:05, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your request from earlier this evening on en.wikt:

Please comment at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/CopyToWiktionaryBot. --Connel MacKenzie - wikt 05:46, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: Transwikiing to wikibooks

Hi X (how do you pronounce that, BTW?),

We're definitely coming at this from very different wikicultural perspectives here :). My approach to all of this is to transwiki useful information to wikibooks... and while I like the idea of playing my part in cleaning up wikipedia, I'm pretty busy on wikibooks and wikiversity, so I've been leaning towards the path of least resistance, and least beaurocracy, if you get my meaning. IOW, I peek in on those categories because I'm a wikibookian looking for good stuff to harvest, and while I'm happy that this is helping clean up wikipedia, that's really not my primary motive, and wikibookians are not required to inform wikipedians of their transwikis (of course it's a nice thing to do, but IMO it's just a hoop I'm being asked to jump through, when I'd really rather spend my time modifying the module to the wikibooks MOS).

My hope for the new template is that its associated category could just be linked from the tw'd-to-wb page. This would make things much easier for the wikibookians who do the transwikiing, and at the same time notify anyone who's interested that a successful transwiki took place. (If it really needs to be typed in on that page, I'm sure a bot could be designed... I'm working hard on the wikibooks side to make sure modules in the Transwiki: pseudonamespace are properly handled and left as permanent redirects: I am an administrator there).

As far as actually removing templates: don't worry, I don't. Until I made the new template, my approach was to simply leave a note on the article's talk page, or just tag it for an AfD if there seemed to be no real possibility of rewriting it in an encyclopedic manner (I actually did the latter today with Pest control of slugs). My idea of using that template is to have a better way to mark things that have been moved, because sometimes people don't read talk pages.

On a related topic: I'm pretty sure most wikipedians don't realise the level of hostility that a lot of wikibookians feel for wikipedians. I was pretty shocked when I first started hanging out there actually, but I've some to understand it a lot better over time. The major source of the grudge is that "wikipedians use wikibooks as a dumping ground for anything they feel wikipedia is WP:NOT, and it's true: some of the stuff in those categories is trash, and it's kind of insulting to think we'd want it. You might have a look at the AfD for the article I carefully transwikied today (almost lovingly really... good stub!), and the first person to vote for (my proposal of) deletion pointed out that "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information"... perhaps he thinks that wikibooks is an indiscriminate collection of information? Wikibooks is a place for Textbooks. It's not a landfill for wikipedia's castoffs.

Anyhoo, I'm sorry for dumping on you a bit... out of the 5 "active" admins on wikibooks (seriously, there's only 5 of us!), I'm the only one who is also a wikipedian, and it's kind of like watching two good friends trashing each other: not fun. I've thought about starting a wikiproject on interwiki relations, but I have a feeling that no-one would be interested in participating.

As far as helping to reduce the backlog in the copy-to-wb and how-to categories, perhaps you could weigh in on b:Wikibooks:Request_for_enabling_special:import? I think it would be good to hear some wikipedian voices on this... and don't be put off by the lack of votes there: the Staff lounge (our local version of the village pump) hasn't had any postings on it in 3 days... we're a very quiet community (and we like it that way) :). --SB_Johnny|talk|books 19:04, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

It's not really that the topics are problematic, but rather that so much of the material is just really stubby :). Stubs tend to get developed on wikipedia as more editors come across them and add a little here and a little there, but books aren't really written that way. There also seem to be a lot of copyvio problems in the recipe articles... I tag those when I see them.
The video game guides are a whole 'nother can of worms. They were welcomed there for a while, but Jimbo left a note saying they didn't belong. Most of them have been transwikied to http://www.strategywiki.org, which is a wikia site.
As far as the import discussion on wb goes, the votes of support there are actually for meta's benefit: most of the wikibookians have little feeling about it either way because they're pretty jaded about the transwiki-from-wikipedia thing in general, at least in part because we don't have a "stub-sorting cabal" there like we do here, and the stuff just never gets incorporated into books. --SB_Johnny|talk|books 08:28, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Protecting children's privacy

Hi. You contributed to the discussion at Wikipedia:Protecting children's privacy. If you have the time and interest, I'm asking contributors to past a brief summary of their position on the proposal here, thanks. Herostratus 20:16, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A friendly heads-up

Hello. I just wanted to let you know I removed the prod from List of people and fictional characters with famous head hair. The reason I gave in my edit summary is that, if deleted, it will simply find its way back into the Hair article, from which it was split. If it goes to AfD, I wouldn't oppose deletion (not that big of a deal), but I think it would be less work in the long run to keep the list. Since I removed the prod, I thought I would give you a heads-up on it. Happy editing! SWAdair 04:18, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More transwiki

I did some more transwiki importing on en.wikt: yesterday. The bot isn't approved yet, so I am unsure if I should run it on those hundred+ entries or not. But you can certainly start cleaning up Wikipedia:Transwiki log/Articles moved from here/en.wiktionary#Automated Special:Import 10/03/2006. --Connel MacKenzie - wikt 20:09, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for your recent work on transwikis, which I was actually just about to start doing again -- I've been busy lately, so thanks for spurring me into action. For now I've started on deleting most of the automatically imported entries. Don't be afraid to prod most of the entries you deal with. Thanks again! theProject 05:21, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I prefer deletion to soft redirects very much too. I don't disagree with the category move at all -- I did redirect one of them, though, as the redirecting category was unlikely to be used. In the future, I'll probably delete it -- and update the links on my userpage.
Just wondering now -- when you're updating the Transwiki log, are you manually inputting items from Wiktionary's import log? Seems a script could parse that and make the job easier, if you aren't already. Never mind, I realized that was Connel MacKenzie's adding in batch, not you in pieces. :-) theProject 16:24, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The project merge with The Project

I'm leaving this note because you've edited on the first page above. I made a new page on the same topic, not realizing the first one existed. Are you interested in helping to merge the pages? Elizmr 02:04, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] wikibooks has import...

If you're interested in cleaning out a lot of the stuff at Category:Copy to Wikibooks, a bunch of the recipes have now been imported.

After the bot came after me last time, I decided against trying to make templates, but instead brought it up here, if you'd care to try and help work something out.

We'll try to empty Category:Copy to Wikibooks and Category:Articles containing how-to sections over the next week or so. --SB_Johnny|talk|books 14:46, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grabarz

Wher exacly did you move grabarz too? wiktionary????

For Grabarz i'm proposing to transform it to a disambiguation page--Pixel ;-) 14:19, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please defind "low quality link"

Is there a precise definition? Piercetp 18:24, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gadomskispam

Although I felt like removing all of them, also, there may be a few legitimate links there. I'd appreciate it if you would recheck and restore any links which actually belong. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 01:39, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


KEVIN AND IAN MAXWELL

Hi and thanks for noticing! I only didn't expand these articles becuase I felt sure that there were other links I would discover later,

All the pages I created are of significant people, Kevin Maxwell is the son of the late Robert and in his own right was the UK biggest personal bankruptcy. I will expand on all these articles during the next 48 hours

[edit] Cocktails

Hi. How do you pronounce your name? Zizzy-plew? Ziksy-plug? :-) Anyway, yes. I definitely recognize your name. It seems like every time I look at the edit history for an article, your name is in there somewhere (much like mine is now). I also see your name in several of the old AFD discussions (sounding very much like me when we cry, "Wait don't delete it! I'm still working on that one!")

I had wondered what caused you to lose interest in the project. You seemed so passionate, and then ... crickets chirping in the silence. Would it be possible to entice you back out of retirement? :-)

Philvarner and I have various thoughts on how to restructure the entire mixed drinks and bartending section of Wikipedia. Some of these are pretty sweeping changes, and your input based on the historical discussions and your experiences with the topics are really important. I think you were even involved in some of the original structure of the sections as they exist now. Your input would be invaluable. Please visit the Restructure Section to read, discuss, and hopefully help plan these important changes. Thank you. --Willscrlt (Talk·Cntrb) 11:18, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Matrix Scheme

Please note that we have all spent vast amounts of time over the past 12 months with this article in mediation in order to reach an agreement on how the article should look. Amongst the topics for discussion were the external links, and we spent several days discussing which links were suitable, how to name those links etc. It is NOT helpful to come along and remove these links without first discussing it on the Talk page - that is what the Talk page is there for! If you look at it, you will see many of the discussion we have had over thje past 12 months, and will also note the various comments regarding external links. PLEASE DO NOT VANDALISE!!

Cybertrax 23:52, 18 February 2007 (UTC)


I appreciate your comments on my Talk page. I understand what you are saying, although I do feel that removing one link but leaving a similar link up made it look a bit biased. I have taken on board official Wikipedia rules, and taken action as appropriate. Thank you.

Cybertrax 17:33, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Paradise Inn

Thanks for fixing my redirect :) --Lukobe 17:58, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Matrix Watch

I think you owe MW a public retraction of your comments in the Matrix Scheme discussion. Please read my reply to your comments. Arzel 05:26, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:0721051gold1.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:0721051gold1.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable under fair use (see our fair use policy).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Iamunknown 03:09, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Golden chicken plant

I disagree with your comment added yesterday so have removed it. Google search is not a definitive test for a term's validity. Indeed it is the of limited information from a google search which gives importance to my wikipedia entry. I have personally seen these "golden chicken plants" in the Cameron Highlands and can confirm that they are known colloquially as such. The photos in the blog are the same plant. Please do not delete the article. I'd like to see it expanded as we learn more about this highly unusual plant. If you're a botanist then I'd welcome your positive comments on the subject. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ralphscheider42 (talk • contribs) 02:58, 24 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Air Condition appreciation

I just realized it after I put it on, and was just about to correct it after investigating a bit, but thanks anyway. --queso man 01:11, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:TWCleanup

Thanks, tremendously clearer, especially the explicit exception for glossaries. - Jmabel | Talk 08:06, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ari (lion)

How about we redirect the Ari (lion) article to Ari (name)#Hebrew? The Behnam 09:36, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Let me clarify. This would be done so that links to Ari (lion) don't die. Of course nobody would ever search Wikipedia for "Ari (lion)" specifically. The Behnam 09:45, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I actually think that you should adjust the PROD to SPEEDY based on this comment by the author [2]. I see it is has been added to the Wiktionary, so the article can probably be speedied; just cite the mention by dab in addition to your statement. Good plan? The Behnam 10:57, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Well the PROD will take it out anyway so there is no need to worry. Hopefully the deleter won't misjudge its value. The Behnam 00:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal: Merge Kitchen rendering and Greaves (food) into Rendering (food processing)

There's a proposal to merge the above-mentioned articles. Kitchen rendering and industrial rendering are basically the same processes, however, one article discusses it on a kitchen scale, the other on an industrial scale. Greaves are a byproduct of rendering – there does not seem to be enough content (or even potential content) to justify breaking it off into its own article. Discuss at Talk:Rendering (food processing). Peter G Werner 21:46, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Transwiki

I think the process involves saving the image to your computer, re-uploading to Commons, copying the revision history and copying the talk page and its revision history. Then, after all that, you need to move the page from "Transwiki:Page title" to "Page title." I think I was too lazy to do all that, so I just set up the framework for someone else to do, which I realize is irresponsible of me. I don't know what else to explain -- I realize that what I said is somewhat confusing. I'm a bit unsure on what you want to know -- could you please leave another message, and I'll do the best I can to explain. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 23:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Film screening

[3] thx for advice. I've been quite conservative about pulling tags off WP and mattresses. And no kidding about sources: I'm on the hunt for sources about the focus group process. This is all stuff I've read before, that I dumped into the article to save it from deletion, but I don't have those books anymore. --Lexein 12:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Javascriptlet

I don't know Wikipedia policies - this sort of thing may be against the rules these days...but if you edit Special:Mypage/monobook.js and add these lines, it will stuff this comment into the edit summary (subliminal advertizing to RC patrollers) for every edit you make:

function comment() {
  comment = "<<<Transwiki backlog cleanup>>> Please help out!"
  if ( document.editform.wpSummary.value.search(cmntText) == -1 ) {
     if (document.editform.wpSummary.value != "") document.editform.wpSummary.value += ", ";
     document.editform.wpSummary.value += cmntText;
  }
}

addLoadEvent( comment );

[edit] Transwiki question

Regarding By the book, "Because this article has content useful to Wikipedia's sister project Wiktionary, it has been copied to there, and its dictionary counterpart can be found at either Wiktionary:Transwiki:By the numbers or Wiktionary:By the numbers."

I can find the article's duplicate at Wiktionary:Transwiki:By the numbers but only a very brief definition at the latter link. Why is that? Once the Wikipedia article is deleted, where I be able to search for By the book here and be automatically or soft-redirected to Wiktionary:Transwiki:By the numbers? Gotyear 21:11, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Words

The thing is that it's not easy to tell the difference between an article on a word and an article on a term. In general if there's not much to say about a word except its etymology, pronounciation, and meaning, it belongs in wiktionary rather than here. There has traditionally been a shortage of people doing the actual moves there. Also, since Wiktionary is believed by some to have a lower 'status' than Wikipedia, people tend to want their pet word articles here anyway and object (sometimes vehemently) to their deletion, leading to articles copied to wikt but not removed here. This is becoming less of a problem as admins these days are more inclined to pay attention to arguments rather than vote count in AFD, thus making it less of a lottery. HTH. >Radiant< 09:26, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unprotection requests

Thanks for keeping me busy ;) – Riana talk 15:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm surprised that some of the articles you requested unprotection for have been protected for that long. I've only been an admin for a month, so I go back every so often to see if the articles I protected last month still need protection, but I guess the longer you keep at it, the less time you have to check up on things like that. Anyway, keep them coming, and if I see another admin come on board to RFP, I might help you out. Cheers, – Riana talk 15:22, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE. Giraffe

I've changed the protection template to a long term one. Doesn't require a "permanent" protection, but this one shall remain semi-protected for a while as the vandalism returned immediately after unprotection. Regards, Húsönd 13:31, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

No clue. :-) Húsönd 13:34, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Prig

Hi, just wondering what was considered OR in the above article? Feeling slightly priggy :-) Brendandh 23:36, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I would consider that a preamble into the examples of such behaviour given in the quotations later in the article. No? Brendandh 01:22, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I would kindly suggest reading the OED for a definition. Hm that might be being Passive agressive... May I suggest that you might find that that is the extended definition within the OED, NO! that doesn't work either! Damn, can I stop being a prig and just be one or other?. ;-) Brendandh 03:11, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2040s

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article 2040s, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Ksy92003 16:10, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I was really stressed for time and since you were the most recent editor to the 40s page, I notified you. And because of those same time constraints, I was not able to do that to 2050s, 2060s, etc. 2020s, 2030s, and 2040s was all I really had time for.
As for the AfD debating thing, I don't really know how that works so I haven't done anything like that. If you know how to do that and want to, then feel free to do it for me. --16:51, 7 April 2007 (UTC)Ksy92003

[edit] Sino-American War

I'm still new to wikipedia so I won't do it myself, however I'd really appreciate it if you would look into restarting the Afd on Sino-American War. It clearly doesnt belong on wikipedia and is an even more outrageous case of crystal ball than the Iran War page. Thanks. --Westolly 14:55, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] re: changes to WP:AFD

Good morning, Xyzzyplugh. I think that if you look again, all the content was still there, it was just included by linking to a "main article" instead of by transclusion.

Might a few more links be helpful? Perhaps. But I tend to think that "bundled nominations" and "second nominations", et al are the minority. While we need exception processes for those situations, we shouldn't be adding so much complexity that we make it hard for people to sort though and find the simple situation - which is what they need 80% of the time.

I don't think it would be appropriate for me to change the page back but I would ask you to reconsider whether a few additions or rewrites to the pruned page would satisfy your concerns. The current version of the cover page has become unusably complex and cluttered. Rossami (talk) 13:46, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jamie / Jaime

I noticed you redirected Jaime to Jamie. This makes little sense to me because the Spanish name "Jaime" isn't equivalent to "Jamie"; that they look the same with two letters switched is coincidence. (For instance, they're not pronounced much alike: "JAY-mee" versus "HIGH-meh".) It's related to "James" at least as closely as "Jamie", and that would arguably make a better redirect. But James doesn't list people named "Jaime", and I'm not sure James (name) would be a better redirect. I started a discussion at Talk:Jamie to sort out the matter. - furrykef (Talk at me) 11:42, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Complex systems

Thank you for your contribution to the complex system article in the past. Currently there is a Call for Deletion for the associated Category:Complex systems covering this interdisplinary scientific field. If you would like to contribute to the discussion, you would be very welcome. Please do this soon if possible since the discussion period is very short. Thank you for your interest if you can contribute. Regards, Jonathan Bowen 14:46, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] prod on Mutated contraction

As ATT is proposed policy, and not policy (its status changed recently), I think it's inappropriate to cite it instead of Verifiability. It does not have consensus and so we don't measure articles by it--at least not until it does gain consensus. It can also be terribly confusing for newer users to be referred to something as the reason something is being deleted, and being told that it's policy (and it is by way of WP:V, WP:NOR, etc.), and yet the page has a purple question mark. I haven't touched the page--it's your reasoning for a prod after all, but I thought I'd let you know... Miss Mondegreen | Talk   10:56, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Somdomite

Please can you undo your redirect of "somdomite" to Oscar Wilde . Please see the OW talk page for my reasoning. Thanks, Natalie West 22:39, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Hello, perhaps I was a little hasty in wanting to delete Somdomite. I forgot that Queensbury famously misspelled sodomite. sorry.Natalie West 16:34, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] contesting prod

So you know, im contesting the prod on bad and wrong, as I believe theres a strong sense of geek culture behind the term that can be, and has a bit to an extent, fleshed out beyond what a dictionary can provide. If you want to continue on through deletion, the next jump is an AfD domination :) Thanks for being willing to do the dredge work on the pedia, by the way, prod tags on transwikis is a must-have and boring work to be doing, I just disagree in this case. -Mask? 02:02, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] horos

Oh yes wikipedia has articles about words and many of them. Try shit for starters. I can point you to more of it, if you have nothing better to do but deleting reasonable articles. `'mikka 06:44, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Constitution of Fiji

Hi there! Thank you for alerting me to the unwritten articles concerning the Fijian constitution. I am still planning to do them, and now that you've reminded me, I'll get on to it soon. The reason why the source text is there is that it's easier for me to write a commentary on each section with it right in front of me, then delete the section when the commentary is written. I realize that the source text doesn't belong in wikipedia, and I'll do something about it. I apologize for being remiss in this matter. BTW, I think this is the first time we've met. Welcome! I have to tell you that we're short-staffed in the "Fijian project department" - so if you want to pitch in, you're more than welcome. David Cannon 03:02, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] re: Wikipedia is not a dictionary

Given your experience with the relevant policy pages, would you please consider joining the conversation at WP:NOT? Thanks. Rossami (talk) 00:42, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gerald Barnbaum

Hello Xyzzyplugh, you are not allowed to move content by cut&paste (WP:MOVE). I will delete the Gerald Barnbaum article, afterwards you are able to move Gerald Barnes (criminal) to that title (using the move button!) and remove the inaccurate information from the article. Regards --Oxymoron83 14:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Partial Unbirthing Fetishism

An article that you have been involved in editing, Partial Unbirthing Fetishism, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Partial Unbirthing Fetishism. Thank you. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 18:59, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The feelings of Marijuana

Really good redirect! --NeilN talk ♦ contribs 22:26, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] SB

Thanks, fixed. Rich Farmbrough, 20:00 15 March 2008 (GMT).

[edit] Rotten.com

Regarding Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Rotten.com, I think you have it exactly right. Jayjg (talk) 03:50, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Parabolic Geometry

There seems to be some confusion on the page you modified called Parabolic Geometry. Please discuss it on the talk page for Euclidean Geometry. Bob the Wikipedian, the Tree of Life WikiDragon (talk) 20:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

About the freak page-- thanks for removing that. I don't understand much about math, but the two definitions sounded very different to me. Unless I can get the guy who made the disambig page to begin with to speak up, I'll just trust you on this one. Bob the Wikipedian, the Tree of Life WikiDragon (talk) 20:21, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unlinking is wikifying?

I noticed this edit of yours which you described as "wikified". I don't understand how unlinking terms helps improve a disambiguation page. Can you explain? Delicious carbuncle (talk) 21:27, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Yikes. I've been unwikifying disambig pages thinking I was improving them! Only a small number, though. Thanks for your response. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 10:56, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Prelude

Hi Xyzzyplugh. Thanks for the clarification. I will make the necessary changes to Prelude if you have not done so already.--Casadesus (talk) 20:37, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Purdah dab

Sorry, didn't see your talk page post. Have replied there with question. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 19:17, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Great work on the Purdah (and Budget Purdah) page. Thanks! Fowler&fowler«Talk» 00:23, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] PSM

Greetings, Wikipedian! Can you re-visit PSM? Am interested in your feedback. thanx. Ludvikus (talk) 11:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Critique

This article is of extremely pure quality, regarding content. Can you tell me what WP Tags would be appropriate? Ludvikus (talk) 11:48, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Critic

Can you fix the Disamig. in the above?. I've moved the Disambig. page - ("Critique" is more common than "Critic"). Any fixing you do on that would improve things. Ludvikus (talk) 12:06, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Jewish question (disambiguation)

I see you are also a master of "not to be confused with" Disambiguations. Please visit the above where I used this lesson (you just taugh me) to make a compromise. But I still didn'y get the details of the syntax. So your expertise on that would make it much easier for me to be clear on my compromise proposal. Of course, you are free to use your own discretion as you see fit. --Ludvikus (talk) 18:45, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Paisa

Do not remove the Honduras entry as it is clearly notable enough to be included. See here. Thanks, SqueakBox 18:56, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Anyway you inspired me to create a new article, Prisons in Honduras so a reasonable outcome. Thanks, SqueakBox 21:01, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pamban

hi ! many thanks for this....if possible kindly visit this tooTalk:Hogenakkal Falls...im unable to handle this page...may be ur visit may do a lot good..regards:--@ the $un$hine . (talk) 19:50, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Paddy

Hi, it looks from the comments above as if you are working your way through the encyclopedia alphabetically! Please see Talk:Paddy#Paddy, meaning tantrum and consider reinstating this meaning which you deleted. You used the edit comment "wikified"; may I suggest that you mention the specific policy grounds for removing an item? - Fayenatic (talk) 19:58, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks. I've come across your work before and you are doing a good job -- keep it up! - Fayenatic (talk) 21:35, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] see talk page?

re [4], would you mind to actually edit the talk page before asking people to "see talk page" in edit summaries? Checking the talk page, I only find my own edit, which hardly explains your revert. I am sorry, but I am not prepared to let this pass. This looks too much like meatpuppetry. Either you become involved and state what you have to say about the topic of Pre-Indo-European topics, or I suggest you leave this alone. dab (𒁳) 08:47, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

See the talk page :) --Xyzzyplugh (talk) 08:53, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
ok, sorry. Further discussion at the talkpage then (later, I'm taking a break now). cheers, dab (𒁳) 08:55, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Civility

Sorry. The warning was intended for User talk:Kittie Rose due to the following comments here:

You are a very smug and arrogant person and are getting on my nerves. First off, I am aware of the rules but I think they are ridiculously strict, and if it wasn't for you being so ridiculously anal, nobody else would have noticed. I'm sorry, but to me, you're the arrogant little suck up who doesn't care who his "ratting on" hurts. Secondly, while i do not write the comic normally, I do help out and write some, and I am having art published in a major comic book soon. Major Media Achor #1. Secondly, Deven Gallo, who the characters were based off, and another creative mind in the early days, appeared on TechTV. So a "famous" person was involved on this. Major Media Achor #2. Thirdly, expanding on the first point, Webcomics are not the same as garage bands. Why? There are only so many webcomic authors that are going to bother to make wikipedia articles. There are thousands of garage band artists who will. A Webcomic is something freely and easily searchable on the internet, a band may not even have a website. This webcomics was the foundation of much humour for an entire community. Unfortunately, it never got a mention on a front page as it was a messageboard thing. But I think this makes it of relevance to be mentioned on the site, as that community is mentioned in several [i]Sonic the Hedgehog[/i] related articles. I don't feel I'm reasoning with a human being here, but with a smug machine, so I guess this is all in vein. Though I hope you take pleasure in hurting the comic's author, because apparently you do. I hope you reconsider, but I don't see you having a shred of human interest or common sense, which is a pity. If you recommend this article for deletion again, you are a rather pitiful internet user, much like the "Blammers" on newgrounds. Go find a better hobby, please. User:Kittie Rose


and

So I was right. You ARE a suckup. And; that is a 100% correct observation, not a personal attack. If you're going to destroy things dear to people and not give a crap, you have to be prepared to take some backlash for it. You remind me of forum trolls who provoke people into a response, and then report their posts and have them banned. Your inability to defend your points shows that I may as well be talking to a machine. Another fact, even if it is rather insulting, it is merely a measure of the frustration you cause.

Yeah, she actually left those comments on my talk page about a year and a half ago, so I think you might be a bit late in warning her... --Xyzzyplugh (talk) 10:34, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Do you ever....

Do you ever feel like you are pulling the needle from another persons eye just to avoid pulling the log from your own? I will admit, there are many times in life that I feel this way but not today.

If you could kindly show me how the policy is ranked. There is a lot of policy here and all of it good and impotent and all that. It seems like with there being so much policy that there should be by now a policy which ranks the other policy by what is really credible and good to concentrate upon.

Thank you for the time you are spending removing references from pages. I must say, that most of the the articles I read say "please remove citation" and "citation not needed here". You are doing fine work here! -- carol (talk) 22:22, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

I responded to some of that on your talk page, specifically the policy ranking questions. As to removing citations - this speaks to the idea behind disambiguation pages. Basically, a disambiguation page is meant to be nothing but a set of links to Wikipedia articles. Someone types Lift into the search engine, they get Lift, a disambiguation page. They were actually looking for one particular article, our article on Lift (Audio Adrenaline album), perhaps, but they didn't know what the name for that article was, so they just typed in Lift. So the disambiguation page should contain nothing but a list of links to wikipedia articles, with brief descriptions to help readers know what the article contains, to make it as easy as possible for the reader to find Lift (Audio Adrenaline album). If the disambig page is a sea of blue links, with every other word blue linked, or full of external links, or has long paragraphs of text describing various things, it just makes it harder for the person to find what he was looking for. --Xyzzyplugh (talk) 23:14, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
As I mentioned before, the references were put there to stop what I think was (without being able to paste the policy(ies) link) the violation of many many many more policy -- the moving of Ragwort to whatever and back again. I think that is what started it. I understand the idea about the disambiguation pages but here is the thing about the plant disambiguation pages -- very rarely are they about anything but the plant or members of a family of plants. The references are there in the case that someone who is looking for that common name wants to know what the heck is going on with all of the different latin names and for plant article murderers who think that the articles should have the common name as a title.
Completely on a different track, when I added your talk page to my watch list, I could not help to get a chuckle when you put in the edit comments that you were worried that Category:Disambiguation would put you into that category (my documentation experience started at the commons so that was learned in the first week or so). Then, I looked at your user page and thought about first names. My dad named me carol and nothing more than that, no second syllable 'line' or 'lyn' at the end. No pretty little French 'e' either. Typical of my dad, just the letters that are needed to know what the word is and how to say it. My question to you is this: did your mom or dad give you the name Xyzzyplugh or did you get it legally changed to that as an adult or soon to be one? -- carol (talk) 23:49, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
While it might make a fine story to claim that I am A boy named Xyzzy, in fact, Xyzzy and Plugh are just magic words from an ancient computer game, which I first played before there was an internet, or personal computers even. --Xyzzyplugh (talk) 01:02, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Heh. I made this category after I read Colossal Cave Adventure and saw that image there. I never did very well with that game, and worse with Star Trek -- both were available to me via phone connection to a computer in 1982, btw. An internet existed but not the word. At the college I was attending, there was a man who had this vision of a world in which subroutines and other software could be downloaded and installed on everyones personal computer. I wish I could remember the quote better, it really was about subroutines or part of the lesson where I first learned about these things. It sounded beautiful then, however, I must say that now that it has come to fruition, it turns out to be kind of ugly and worked only to divide the world more strongly along economic lines (which seemed like the only real problem back then) than it was before that. I just recently rewatched a very loved by me science program from the early eighties. In the episode that was about computers, the narrator unfolded an osborne computer at the very end of the show. I was surprised at how sexy that machine still is! I have sent email that requires multitudes more memory than that machine had -- but it was really something. You know, all of these games are just Hunt the Wumpus with more words and more pictures (pixels). I beat that in 1976 at home on my dads personal computer. A shame because it ruined me for games I think. -- carol (talk) 02:48, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
You know, I could have not typed all of those words on May 4 and just as easily replaced them all with a simple "that is such a cool wikiname". -- carol (talk) 18:36, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Are you scolding me for not responding?  :) Much like God, I hear everything said to me, but may not always answer. --Xyzzyplugh (talk) 18:41, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Nope -- not scolding at all. Summarizing. -- carol (talk) 19:41, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] You inspired me!

After seeing that you cleaned up all the disambiguation pages that start with "P", I have decided that maybe it isn't such a huge task after all. I've started with the B's and hopefully it won't take me all that long to work my way through them. Good work :).DesertAngel 19:51, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Raison d'Etre

Hi, just wondering, why did you comment out the raison d'etat reference on the raison d'etre disambig? I believe it was truly informative, as the two terms are likely to be confused by laymen. --Divide (talk) 01:33, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Now it's much better indeed, thank you. --Divide (talk) 03:52, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Red Hawk

Hi Xyzzy,

Thank you for pointing out my error. I have always viewed "See also" sections on disambiguation pages as appropriate places for lists of similar disambiguation pages. In reading the guidelines for disambiguation page "See also" sections, I find that you are correct in your assessment that only titles that could be confused with the title, misspellings of the title, or different forms of the title should be listed. I do a lot of disambiguation work, so I appreciate your input.

Neelix (talk) 18:08, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

Why did you remove the reference to the Sinhala word Puka from the disamb page? 123.255.23.105 (talk) 14:10, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(disambiguation_pages)#Foreign_languages. Disambiguation pages don't include entries for foreign language words, unless those words are commonly used in the english language. --Xyzzyplugh (talk) 17:14, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mercury

Hi Xyzzyplugh. I saw your post about finishing the disamb P's, Q's, and R's here and am hoping that you can help me out. Mercury is the example disambiguation page cited at Wikipedia:Disambiguation and it seemed neglected. As a result, I added all articles having "mercury" in the title to Mercury. All of them probably do not belong there, but I don't know enough about the finer details of disambiguation to revise Mercury to be one of the better disambiguation page examples. Would you please go through Mercury and improve it. This also will help me learn more about disambiguation. Thanks. Williamhortner (talk) 14:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your username

A Colossal Cave Adventure fan, I see... Madagascar periwinkle (talk) 22:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I keep saying Xyzzy here on Wikipedia, but nothing happens. --Xyzzyplugh (talk) 00:59, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shower (disambiguation)

Hi again Xyzzyplugh. As you did for Mercury, would you please go through Shower (disambiguation) and improve it. Thanks. Williamhortner (talk) 23:11, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bot

The bot is heavily assisted bu human editors, who are sirting out dabbinfg first and organizing in a fashion not really identified at the village pump ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 09:58, 2 June 2008 (UTC)