Talk:Xhosa Wars

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Hi, I created the article Xhosa Wars, but I didn't realise that their was already an article. Please Merge. Samuel 15:40, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Merged

I don't know who merged, but did he not lose the edit history of 'Cape Frontier Wars'? JMK 11:07, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

This must be the most biased anti-European article I have ever read anywhere. I shall check the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica to see what it says, but I am prepared to lay a very large bet that the differences are huge. Just what academic book written befor the last 25 years of angst refers to the 'Xhosa Wars'. I mean, 60,000 cattle. Errr... just who did the count? Beyond belief. David Lauder 20:28, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Xhosa Wars vs. Kaffir Wars? …using wikEd 2 neutrality 3 Harry Smith 4 Article needs correction 5 Multiple spellings of Xhosa names 6 List of wars 7 Trans-Kei War? 8 Good work being done

[edit] Xhosa Wars vs. Kaffir Wars? …using wikEd

I am the last person around to advise revisionist history, but I believe that even to be historically correct in calling them the Kaffir Wars would set of a maelstrom of controversy. (For example, even the memorial plaques to British casualties in the Grahamstown cathedral have been covered to avoid insensitivity.) --Lmcelhiney 17:24, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] neutrality

Could whoever put the POV dispute tage on the main page please tell me whats wrong with the article, the tag is pointless with out a dispute. Samuel 00:54, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Harry Smith

I pretty sure that Harry Smith did not lead the British troops in 1806 who were sent to help the Boers. At least, not **the** Sir Harry Smith, 1st Baronet Aliwal, to whom the link leads, and who in 1806 was an 18-year-old 2nd Lieutenant in the newly-formed 95th Rifles. I know nothing about the Xhosa wars, so haven't changed the article, but someone who knows should find out who did lead the expedition, and fix. KiwiBiggles 21:38, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article needs correction

Somehow this article has become totally disjointed. I am in the process of obtaining relevant information pertaining to each of the wars..Gregorydavid 22:26, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Multiple spellings of Xhosa names

There are a couple of likely errors in names here due to multiple European spellings of Xhosa names. Unfortunately, I do not have any good solid references for these changes, so I will leave this under discussion for now.

Makana's attack on Grahamstown seems to be listed twice here. The article states that Makana attacked Grahamstown on 22 April 1817, and also that Maqana attacked Grahamstown in 1819, promising that Settler bullets would turn to water. This is very likely the same event, and the same man. His name was Makana, and he was also known as Nxele. The bullets turning to water sounds correct, and he did end up on Robben Island.

Kreli, referred to under the heading 9th Xhosa war, is as far as I know actually Sarhili, chief of the Gcaleka.

Halfsnail 09:23, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you are right, see the names of Xhosa prophets, and those sent to Robben Island. Also some references refer to the same wars by different numbers, ie maybe from the British perspective and others from the Dutch or South African perspective. There is some work to be done..Gregorydavid 10:21, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of wars

I do not agree with the reduction of the number of sections listing each specific war. Maybe the templates only should have been removed Samuel.Gregorydavid 10:28, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trans-Kei War?

Some books refer to the Transkei or Trans-Kei War, i.e. of the Transkei. But is this the same as the Xhosa/Kaffir/Cape Frontier wars? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.215.149.98 (talk) 14:19, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good work being done

I see user:JMK has been doing good work re-writing the sections.Gregorydavid (talk) 22:08, 4 January 2008 (UTC)