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It should be noted that the "X" in XFL did not stand for "extreme." When the league was first organized, promoters wanted to make sure that everyone knew that the "X" did not actually stand for anything. -- Then why is this article's title EXtreme Football League instead of XFL? -- Zoe

Beats the hell outta me...You should just change it to XFL or X Football League. Can you do that?

EDIT: Good stuff.


I think it should also be mentioned that the XFL supposedly greatly angered Saturday Night Live executive producer Lorne Michaels. A February game went into overtime and delayed the live broadcast (on the East Coast of course) of an episode that was hosted by Jennifer Lopez (who was also the musical guest). Because of this, NBC decided to rebroadcast the episode as soon as SNL went into another live episode break (which is usually after three episodes). If this was say the World Series being aired on NBC (as opposed to an unproving league like the XFL), then I'm sure that Lorne Michaels wouldn't have gotten so upset. I read that a live episode that was hosted by Rosanna Arquette had to be preempted because of NBC's coverage of the now famous sixth game of the 1986 World Series between the New York Mets and Boston Red Sox.User:TMC1982

It should be mentioned that Memphis also had a CFL team for one year - 1995, the article states that the last time Memphis had a pro team was 1985.

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[edit] NFL Players

In the notable personalities section we have Yo Murphy as the first XFL alum to play in a Super Bowl (2001), followed by Rod Smart (2003), and Tommy Maddox as the third to play and first to win. (2005) However, Corey Ivy is listed as a former XFL player, and he played for the Buccaneers from 2001-2004, during which time they won a Super Bowl (2002). Was he off the roster at the time they won or what? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.202.147.105 (talk) 20:32, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Injury zone"

Was this something that the XFL method of starting the game was called on a routine basis, or just on a one-time basis by a sportswriter or announcer? If the latter, it really has no place in the article.

[edit] Ratings

I believe that recent edits have removed the fact that late-season XFL games weren't just the lowest-rated prime-time football games in TV history; they were the lowest-rated prime-time programs ever broadcast by one of the "Big Three" traditional U.S. networks. It also seems to me a stretch to say that most newspapers did not run XFL scores; while more than a few did not, many others did.


[edit] XFL Draft

Should there be a category headline describing the XFL Draft in more detail? (Cardsplayer4life 09:56, 13 June 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Corrected information

You may have noticed that I changed the name of the Jennifer Lopez album mentioned in the account of the SNL controversy. I just watched her profile on E! Entertainment Television and it showed that it was J-Lo that was released in 2001, not On the Six. On the Six was Lopez's first album, released several years earlier. Sorry for the error, but again it has been corrected.--Desmond Hobson 17:16, 28 June 2006 (UTC)


I have removed The Rock from the list of wrestlers that appeared in WWE Films...while he has a film career, he has not appeared in a WWE-produced movie. Dfaber2006 06:05, 17 January 2007 (UTC)dustin Faber. 1-17-06

besides being puzzled as to this being in the XFL talk, the credits for both Walking Tall and The Rundown include WWE Films as producers. Lynx Raven Raide 09:45, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] About the name of the "league"...

Since the "X" in "XFL" doesn't stand for anything, then shouldn't it be called "X Football League". So, who's in favor of changing the name to "X Football League"? I know I am. 24.7.217.221 20:25, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

  • No. It was never to my knowledge referred to as the "X Football League", only as "XFL". --TheTruthiness 00:27, 4 September 2006 (UTC)


The title of the article should be XFL. While as an acronym the XFL does not stand for anything in particular, the letter X suggests an extreme version of the sport similar. Acronyms dont' always have to stand for something. Eg. the acronym YMCA in Canada stands for a set of values as opposed to the Young Mens blah blah blah.

[edit] NPOV

The media response is not really neutral - looks complete bashing of the XFL - yes I know it didn't perform well as expected, but some parts is written as like someone is anti-XFL.--JForget 00:38, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Anti-XFL? That's a new one. It's sadly true that not everything can be a smash success, and if reporting on a failure along with reasons for the failure constitutes "NPOV" then half of Wikipedia would be POV. Please read the articles on USFL and WFL, among many others. I believe the tag should be removed unless specific examples can be cited, rather than broad generalizations --70.108.116.231 13:49, 16 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] ESPN/WWE relations

ESPN is owned by Disney, who also owns ABC. Among wrestling fans, it's well know that ABC dislikes WWE because of its direct competition to Monday Night Football (which is now on ESPN). This should probably be included in the article. ESPN's bashing of the XFL stemmed just as much from this rivalry as it did from actual dislike of the league. ESPN has also been known to favor events that it has the rights to -- Early this college football season (2006), there was quite a bit of controversy over the fact that ESPN only sent College Gameday to games that it or ABC had the rights to air (they have since began being more neutral), which supports this theory. ABC has also aired several shows "debunking" pro wrestling, attempting to prove that it is fake. It's pretty clear that the lack of good press holds some root in this dislike. 72.209.72.177 05:00, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

  • I don't know if this should be in the article, but that's a good point there. It seems silly to me that such a openly sour relationship between ESPN and WWE would happen solely because Raw competes with MNF directly. Not trying to offend you or anything, but I bet during NFL season, Raw is whooped in the cable ratings by MNF (MNF is on ESPN now). WizardDuck 23:35, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
    • "Among wrestling fans, it's well know"? Those are weasel words. Lrrr IV 22:12, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fallacious

"Ultimately it failed to appeal to members of either group. Wrestling fans wanted drama and hype, while football fans simply wanted a better caliber of play on the field."

Hasty generalization? I'm removing it.


"At the end of 2006, unconfirmed reports surfaced that Richard Branson was interested in starting a new version of the XFL, perhaps with Sylvester Stallone, Stephen Hawking and Joe Namath as game commentators. These reports also stated that penalties for roughing the passer and late hits would be abolished."

Yea right LOL

Perhaps add a trivia section? In the opening of the film "The Sixth Day," the XFL was depicted as the prevalent football league in the future shown in the movie. Arnold Schwarzenegger had appeared on the WWF to promote his movie prior to the start of the league. 69.132.142.190 14:39, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] POV

Did Vince McMahon write this article? Vidor 02:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Controversy

I remember a controversy stemming between one of the coaches of an XFL team and someone else - a commentator, I think. Someone who remembers this event more than I do, or someone who can find more information, should edit this into the article. I remember the whole thing ended up being a farce put on by McMahon to try and up ratings. -- JTHolla! 16:57, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

I believe you're referring to Jesse Ventura heavily criticizing NY/NJ Hitmen Coach Rusty Tillman (sp), calling Tillman "Gutless Rusty" during games and going so far as leaving the announce position to confront Tillman on the sidelines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hazardous Matt (talkcontribs) 16:48, 25 January 2008 (UTC)