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Jennifer Wilson @ G4 ( Sasuke_(TV_series) ) revert

Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sasuke_%28TV_series%29&curid=7288221&diff=201648503&oldid=201612557

Good call! Thank you for keeping an American Company from screwing with a JAPANESE COMPETITION article. I admit, I rather guffawed at the audacity of their decision to remove it initially... VxJasonxV (talk) 20:14, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

heh, i got a little chuckle out of it as well. i got addicted to Ninja Warrior on a recent visit overseas where they had G4, unfortunately "G4TechTV" in Canada doesn't carry the show =(. xenocidic (talk) 05:06, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Haha, I couldn't believe it when I saw that too. For the record, remember this IP -- http://whois.domaintools.com/208.78.120.70 (because G4's parent company, G4 Media, is now under E! Networks) -- in case anyone doubts that it's G4 trying to mess around with the article. Lostinube (talk) 13:57, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, I think the edit was kind of in good faith, but she just doesn't understand that Wikipedia has no policy prohibiting spoilers. xenocidic (talk) 14:46, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
True, the person is not a prolific editor -- but when you combine that with the forums cracking down on people for posting spoilers for the 20th SASUKE it looks a bit suspect.Lostinube (talk) 15:05, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Ah, that's probably how she found her way over here. xenocidic (talk) 12:26, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Jen, while your intentions are good, the fact is Wikipedia does not have a policy preventing spoilers. Here is a link to the relevant policy page - Wikipedia:Spoiler. If people want to know the outcome of the contest before it airs on G4TV, that is their choice. On an unrelated note, is there any strings you can pull to get Ninja Warrior aired on G4TechTV in Canada? xenocidic (talk) 21:02, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Since you post the info under the heading of "American Ninja Challenge" that is OUR show name. But no matter, as I said it is passed on now and the execs at both companies can work it out.
Xenocidic - I read the disclaimer and it clearly refers to works of fiction which this show is not. But once again, I don't want to argue - I've passed this issue on up the chain.
Canada's G4TechTV is actually not us. They purchase some of our programming but it is not the same company. Sorry I can't help more with that!
“ 'A spoiler is a piece of information in an article about a narrative work (such as a book, feature film, television show or video game) that reveals plot events or twists.

Spoilers on the Internet are sometimes preceded by a spoiler warning. On Wikipedia, however, it is generally expected that the subjects of our articles will be covered in detail. Therefore, Wikipedia carries no spoiler warnings except for the Content disclaimer and section headings (such as "Plot" or "Ending") which clearly indicate the presence of spoilers.

It is not acceptable to delete information from an article about a work of fiction because you think it spoils the plot. Such concerns must not interfere with neutral point of view, encyclopedic tone, completeness, or any other element of article quality (for example, Wikipedia:Lead section).

 ”
(Jennawils (talk) 21:31, 24 April 2008 (UTC))
Yes, in a sense, but you're reading the letter of the law and not the spirit. On the way home from work I was actually pondering your rationale - that your (viewership) numbers would drop - I actually don't think this is the case. I would watch Ninja Warrior (if it aired in Canada) whether or not I knew the outcome - just because it's so damn hilarious. Anyhow, I don't think you'll find that Wikipedia will actively censor or omit the information which is available, as someone mentioned to you on their talk page, Wikipedia is a global entity. Cheers, xenocidic (talk) 22:21, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you both for your responses. I did not mean to imply a legal BATTLE, just that our legal DEPARTMENT is who handles these discussions if not easily resolved. TBS has helped us quite a bit also on other sites.
We LOVE wikipedia, we also love our job and the American Ninja Challenge. While your logic makes sense - the raw fact is that numbers ALWAYS drop when leaks happen. We can only hope for more viewers like you who will watch regardless. Thank you both for your responses, I don't want to argue or fight, and I will pass on your message to Brian. I think he wants a ANC3 =).
Its tough to accurately explain, but we are cable not a major network. We can't afford to lose money - not even a little. We don't have that freedom and luxury a larger media conglomerate has. I get your point - that the competition aired in Japan already, but most of the world hasn't seen it. G4 makes that possible (my apologies to Canada). Ninja Warrior won't go anywhere, thats not in danger. AMERICAN NINJA CHALLENGE is the special we are trying to protect. And the dividends are definitely figurative thus far =), but yes, we were all THRILLED with the outcome.
I absolutely agree - we need to have an agreement. The COOL thing potentially ... is that we can get accurate info on Sasuke/Ninja Warrior/American Ninja Challenge. Questions such as did Colin go to U of M or Michigan state could be easily answered by us, and more difficult questions regarding sasuke such as budget estimations. We don't want to PREVENT info from being made public, we just would like the release of the results to be better timed.
ps - I am very glad you enjoy the show!! =) (Jennawils (talk) 21:03, 25 April 2008 (UTC))
Hey there, I responded on my talk page also.
We respect and value Wikipedia a lot, all of us use it quite a bit. But the spirit of Wikipedia is not destructive, it is informational. We are not trying to prevent the release of info, but are asking that the release of the info be better timed. Is it possible to work together? We can be a resource for you to maintain accuracy on Sasuke/Ninja Warrior/ANC. We just want the RESULTS of how far G4's American Ninja Challenge guys got to not be released until after the airdate May 18th.
As you can read on my talk page ... while I understand your thought process regarding our viewership - its not accurate. The hard facts are: when results are leaked, we lose viewers. Not ALL viewers but some. And some is too many for a small cable network like G4. We don't have the luxury of a larger network like ABC or CBS to lose viewers and still be ok. Understand that this is our industry and our careers, this concern of ours in not unfounded.
Once again, we love wikipedia and are not trying to prevent info from being available. We would just like to come to an agreement so you can continue to provide accurate thourough info and our show can thrive and grow. (Jennawils (talk) 21:25, 25 April 2008 (UTC))
Well Jen, I just don't think you'll find people are willing to obscure info which exists in the world. As it stands, I'm not working on the Sasuka/ANW article anymore (no access to the show), but thanks for the explanation. xenocidic (talk) 21:56, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:WikiProject EA Games

No problem. I cleared the page about a week ago so no problem for me. Thanks. BW21.--Blackwatch21 (talk) 01:00, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for removing the personal attack on my talk page!

StaticGull  Talk  has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Hello, you seem to be more informed than I am, can you answer this?

Hello Xenocidic,

Can you have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Xbox_360_technical_problems#The_.22contributions.22_of_122.167.31.169

It seems someone is regularily posting from an IP (as opposed to an account) to harass me. I would like to know if it is a sock-puppet for a regular user on the page, is there a way to look-up the IP of a user based on their account?

Any advice? Thanks!

Wageslave (talk) 00:58, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

You can post a complaint about the user here for vandalism or here if you believe that the user is a sock puppet. Also, after every vandalism revert, you can add {{uw-vn|Article}} to his talk page, n being the number of the warning, with a miximum value of 4, and Article being the name of the article (in this case Talk:Xbox 360 technical problems). It will look like this, with each consecutive warning having a slightly harsher tone of writing. StaticGull  Talk  11:08, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
I got your message Xenocidic. Im not overly concerned by it, I have thick skin. Perhaps if (s)he resurfaces, I'll look into it. Thanks for the advice. Wageslave (talk) 20:24, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
If the problems persist, you could post here. StaticGull  Talk  13:49, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Greetings

Hello, it is my intent to wish you greetings and salutations. I hope everything is well with you. It is my endeavour to accomplish the feat of becoming a wiki-friend to everyone on this website. Will you oblidge to help me, by becoming my wiki-friend? I hope you are able to help me out with this fetish of mine. 216.229.227.142 (talk) 15:41, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Discussion on 8bitjoystick and heat-failure

This discussion is still underway, should we remove the entire thing? [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wageslave (talk • contribs) 17:21, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Which one did you want restored? Since no one had commented on Talk:Xbox 360/Archive_12#8bitjoystick_and_the_Inside_Source_on_RROD_Truth in nearly a month, I figured we could archive it. But I can restore it if you want. xenocidic (talk) 17:44, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes, please restore it. Because the problem is ongoing and the article is suffering from the problems described there.
Wageslave (talk) 19:48, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

WW Xbox logo

They deleted our image for some reason. Just to let you know. BW21.--BlackWatch21 19:38, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Do you know if Thiing is coming back to Wikipedia soon? I hope he can make another logo, if he's is up to the task. We need to find something to replace the logo, soon. DJS --DJS24 21:26, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Found Something

I found something that might be useful to our logo dispute. "Commons accepts images of text in a general typeface and of simple geometric shapes, even if it happens to be a trademarked logo." [2]. BW21. --BlackWatch21 00:55, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Newsletter

New Xbox logo

I'm sorry about that little thing yesterday. I've been kind of stressed out in RL and the image being deleted and that admin requesting that the lists of funny vandalisms be deleted kind of put me over the top and I overreacted. I am now back and I'm sorry about that. I will try to make a new logo that looks similar to the old one but is not copyrightable. It won't be quite as good, but it's better than nothing. I'll probably have it up sometime this weekend, but I'm not sure exactly when because I do have some stuff going on in RL. Regards. Thingg⊕⊗ 23:00, 10 April 2008 (UTC) P.S. I'm also posting this on Blackwatch and DJS24's talk pages.

Wow. my bad

hehheh. I though you meant make a new picture for it.... I will work on that later. going to fix userbox..... Thingg⊕⊗ 19:43, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

ok, it's done. The problem was the "Xbox 360" image's long axis was vertical instead of horizontal so I had to keep tweaking the size and looking at it in "preview" until I got the image to the right size. (When you define an image's size on Wikipedia, the server inserts the value into whatever axis is longer; in this case, it was the vertical axis.) I'm not sure when the new logo will be done, but when it is, I'm going to ask a few knowledgeable users about it before I start putting it in templates. Thingg⊕⊗ 20:26, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

xboxp on xbox exclusive characters

Would {{xboxp}} go on Xbox exclusive games's characters, such as the Arbiter from Halo? BW21.--BlackWatch21 21:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I'd say so, yes. xenocidic (talk) 23:57, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Userbox migration re Template:User Primer

This needs to be userfied per WP:UBM. Did you want to move it somewhere into your userspace? xenocidic (talk) 17:25, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I've been meaning to move the Primer (and others) to my 'space. I'll do that today. Thanks for the reminder. – Scartol • Tok 18:08, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
No problem! xenocidic (talk) 18:19, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for the 'box of diligence. Much appreciated. Watch for my 360 friend invite.. – Scartol • Tok 15:28, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem! Will do. Hopefully there's room on my list! (100 is way too few...) =) xenocidic (talk) 15:30, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

I rpp'd your page, due to the apparent targeted attacks coming at you. Hope that's ok. xenocidic (talk) 19:34, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Wow, I guess there was quite a bit of vandalism wasn't there? (actually, that's the first time I've ever seen anyone other than the "owner" of a userpage successfully nominate it on RFP. So, congratulations and thanks for requesting it. (and for reverting the vandalism :) ) Thingg⊕⊗ 19:50, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For reverting a lot of vandalism and for performing (what is, to my knowledge,) the first successful nom of someone else's userpage on WP:RFPP. Thingg⊕⊗ 19:50, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
No problem. I wouldn't have RPP'd it if it had been particularly "clever" vandalism (as we are both fans of that), but it was just the typical vulgarity and defamation. In the future, do you want me to just let them "blast away" no matter what? xenocidic (talk) 19:55, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
ehh... It doesn't really make any difference to me. Just go with your gut feeling. And thanks again. Thingg⊕⊗ 19:56, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Done. The first table wasn't closed. [3] Thingg⊕⊗ 20:02, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Will do. OH and thanks for the barnstar! I didn't even notice it at first due to my new talk page header which is bleeding into the whole talk page. if you have a minute perhaps you can take a look and see if you can make it "just a header". User:Xenocidic/Talkheader. I asked the guy I repatriated it from but I don't think he's been back online yet... xenocidic (talk) 19:59, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks again. :) Thingg⊕⊗ 20:07, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
No- thank you! =] xenocidic (talk) 20:08, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Talk Header

Yeah, sure. A bit late now but still polite to reply. Good job on fixing it to how you wanted it. IF you need any further coding help, just ask! ><RichardΩ612 20:45, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

CoD2

Please do not add that it is 'based on' the Quake III engine without an appropriate,, verifiable,, reliable 3rd party source. Thanks. xenocidic (talk) 13:52, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

The same goes for Call of Duty 2. Find reliable sources, please. Forums won't cut it. xenocidic (talk) 14:50, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
What are you doing changing the CoD2 page? I provided the correct source to prove that the engine was originally based on Quake 3, and I'll be doing so for CoD4 too (since it is itself slightly based on CoD2). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92fs (talk • contribs) 14:52, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Per WP:SPS forums are inappropriate sources. If you can find a reliable, published, 3rd party source, then I would welcome the inclusion. xenocidic (talk) 14:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
That wasn't some random forum post. It is the word of a member of Infinity Ward on their community forum. It doesn't get better than that, and obviously the people in the discussion realized that.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 92fs (talk • contribs) 14:57, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, it still doesn't qualify as a reliable and verifiable source. You must find something that is published. Please don't forget to sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~). Also note those are not the "official" Infinity Ward forums. xenocidic (talk) 15:00, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Forums *can be* acceptable sources: "Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources in articles about themselves"
Since the post was made by a member of IW, then it is reliable. It is naive to think that you'll find a source in a major publication stating that it was based on Quake 3. They admit it right there that for PR reasons they simply call it "new" even though there is a slight relation to Quake 3! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92fs (talk • contribs) 15:11, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes, but only when they are official forums - these are not. We have no proof that the member posting there is actually from IW. I was actually try to find an official source to support your changes but all I found was this:
“ United Offensive pushed the Quake 3 engine probably as far as it could be pushed, so Call of Duty 2 is built entirely from a new proprietary engine. ”
xenocidic (talk) 15:20, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

I truly hope this minor dispute will not discourage you from editing Wikipedia in the future. Having reviewed in depth the forum posting you are trying to reference, I agree that COD2 (and by extension, COD4) are probably distant relatives of the Q3 engine. However, without an appropriate source to reference, we simply cannot include this in the article. Anyhow, have you considered joining the VideoGames WikiProject? Best regards, xenocidic (talk) 15:38, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

If you look on the back of the CoD4 box, and the CoD2 box, you can read:
"This product contains software technology licensed from id software".
That is official proof (can be used as an official confirmation to what was already admitted by the developers on a community forum) that the game contains tech from the ID Tech 3 engine.
Here's a publication I found shortly thereafter, BTW:
http://www.quakeunity.com/article=3
"He was very courteous, offering us drinks in the id kitchen and even gave me a t-shirt and CoD2, after I told him I wasn't going to buy the game since it didn't use an id engine. After I said that, he explained to me that even though Infinity Ward promoted CoD2 as using a new engine, much of code in in the game was from previous engines made by id. If you look closely at the bottom of CoD2 box, you will see a id Software copyright notice."
Surely the word of the game box itself and that of a person from ID Software is finally enough?
92fs (talk) 15:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't think the quakeunity thing would qualify either, but what I'll do is refactor this entire discussion onto the COD2 talk page for a third-opinon, ok? Cheers. xenocidic (talk) 16:18, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

User:Xenocidic/ubxadopted

Have you listed the userboxes you have User:Xenocidic/ubxadopted in the wikipedia userbox list? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 18:06, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

They're already categorized for the most part (I'm finding them in the galleries), but where exactly did you mean? xenocidic (talk) 18:09, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
I mean that if you list all the userboxes you created in Wikipedia:Userboxes/Animals, it will be helpful for others to find them and use them. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 18:16, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Yep, they're already there - I'm just performing userbox migration and adopting some because the original creators are inactive. Thanks, though. =) xenocidic (talk) 18:19, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Template:User Loves Pomeranian

Per userbox migration, a userbox you created (Template:User Loves Pomeranian) needs to be userfied. Would you like to migrate the userbox into your userspace? If you're not sure how, let me know and I'll take care of it. If you'd rather not have it under your userspace, I can adopt it into mine. Please let me know on my talk page. Cheers, xenocidic (talk) 16:22, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your notified. I have moved it to {{User:Alberth2/Userboxes/User Loves Pomeranian}}. --alberth2 10:17, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick response. I updated the usages. xenocidic (talk) 16:11, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

English Springer Spaniel Userbox

Thanks for (trying to) migrate your userbox, but you moved it to another location within the Template: space, so I moved it to User:Mikebar/UBX/User English Springer Spaniel and updated all the usages. Cheers! xenocidic (talk) 14:29, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! I thought I'd gotten it into the right spane but I had not. This whole migration of userboxes seems rather crazy but we must comply I guess. Anyway, thanks again for your help. Mikebar (talk) 10:17, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Template:User gnulin3

Per userbox migration, a userbox you created (Template:User gnulin3) needs to be userfied. Would you like to migrate the userbox into your userspace? If you're not sure how, let me know and I'll take care of it. If you'd rather not have it under your userspace, I can adopt it into mine. Please let me know on my talk page. Cheers, xenocidic (talk) 16:22, 16 April 2008 (UTC) (Potentially divisive)

I'm not sure how do this, but I am willing to move it. could you show me how? Thanks! volt4ire 11:16, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
actually - let's leave it for now (so it's still in-line with the other gnulin ones). I'm trying to get a handle on whether or not userbox migration is still being conducted. Thanks for the quick response. xenocidic (talk) 16:08, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Yep. Let's let sleeping dogs lie. xenocidic (talk) 19:52, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: GTA IV

Hmm, let it be... Rockstar North is based in UK, that's right. But still: "Rockstar Games is a development division of video game publisher Take-Two Interactive, based in New York City, United States" and game's plot itself is based in fictional city in US etc. So, it's not so obvious about spelling... Thanks, Lothar25 (talk) 19:15, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Personally, I could care less, but it looks like consensus was already reached: Talk:Grand Theft Auto IV/Archive 5#Version of English. Since the entire article is already using BrE, it makes no sense to revisit the discussion. xenocidic (talk) 19:33, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I see. Haven't seen this discussion topic :). Thanks, Lothar25 (talk) 20:20, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

RE:Userboxen

Is it still advisable or worthwhile to conduct userbox migration? since I like userboxen, I thought it might be something to keep me busy. I reviewed some argumentation in Wikipedia_talk:Userbox_migration/Archive_5 and came away confused. I had already started on a campaign of migrating some of the stragglers, as you can see here. I thought they were all decidedly "unencyclopedic". Anyhow, let me know your thoughts. On a somewhat related note Wikipedia:WikiProject Userbox Migration looks like it was a work in progress that got abandoned, and is long since inactive. Should it be XfD'd? xenocidic (talk) 04:06, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

About Wikipedia:WikiProject Userbox Migration. I believe that was waaaay back in the day when WikiProject Userboxes was trying to dictate userbox policy, even though WP:UBM was a "just do it" movement as opposed to an actual project. But for the first time in a while I don't actually know what's going on in userbox policy. According to this part, it looks like they'd still like to keep templatespace more encyclopedic and keep all boxes with Points Of View out of templatespace. I'm not sure if it's enforced though (like Template:User Canadian NDP was created last June in templatespace, but is still there).
I don't think there's any need to migrate any userboxes at the moment. They all seem to be safe for now at least. -Royalguard11(T·R!) 19:47, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
k, thanks for letting me know. I guess I'll find something else to keep me busy =)... Should I XfD that inactive Wproj? It wasn't even fully fleshed out. xenocidic (talk) 19:51, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
It can probably just stay for now. -Royalguard11(T·R!) 19:59, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
k, i'll let sleeping dogs lie =) cheers, xenocidic (talk) 20:02, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:xboxp

Do you think it's really worthwhile for us to be assessing articles as well...?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Xenocidic (talk • contribs) 19:44, 18 April 2008 (UTC

As well as what? Just because WikiProject Video games assesses page doesn't mean we can't. Please explain what you mean. BW21.--BlackWatch21 22:28, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
I dunno, I just think that it's going to be a lot of unnecessary work - and to be honest we don't have that many 'active' members - at least as far as I've seen. I just don't see the benefit in doing it. But if we are going to keep the assessment we should at least modify the assessment guidelines as they are a direct copy of WPVG. xenocidic (talk) 00:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I'll take your thoughts in consideration. BW21.--BlackWatch21 01:35, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
The assessment page is very different than VG's if you go and read it. BW21.--BlackWatch21 02:23, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
The quality scale is a direct copy, it even still references the VG WikiProj. xenocidic (talk) 02:36, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
The highest article grade that can be assigned by a single reviewer from WikiProject Video games

It's not that I'm trying to shoot down what you're doing, I just don't see how having an article graded by three different organizations (Wikipedia, VGProj, XboxProj) is going to be useful... imo It just bloats ours project box. xenocidic (talk) 02:40, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes I did copy that from WikiProject Video games. That was the only thing. BTW, several assessment pages use that. [4],[5], [6]. Several projects assess pages and I am not going to not assess Xbox pages becuase it makes our box big. BW21.--BlackWatch21 02:43, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
again, I just don't see the point of having it assessed by both the VGproj and the Xboxproj. But its your call, I suppose. xenocidic (talk) 02:47, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

your blog

I read it today, [7] through deeplink from somewhere else. ⇒SWATJester Son of the Defender 01:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

cool...what did you mean by deeplink? xenocidic (talk) 02:38, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I was reading some other site, which linked to a second site, which linked to a third site, which linked to your blog. i.e. I didn't know about it and just stumbled across it, not through google. ⇒SWATJester Son of the Defender 02:41, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
ahh...cool! glad to see that it's getting some exposure out there in the webbish wide world =) xenocidic (talk) 02:48, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Admin

hmmm... yeah, I'd like to be one, but if you don't mind me doing so, I'd like to ask a few users if they think I would be an "instant fail" if you know what I mean. Is that ok with you? Thingg⊕⊗ 18:56, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Xbox 360

Er, hi. Regarding your recent edit to the article: Please keep in mind that "The Xbox 360..." is grammatically correct and consistent with several other articles on video game consoles. Having "Sony" immediately next to "PlayStation 3" and "Nintendo" next to "Wii" is a classic example of overlinking, and should be avoided. One could easily click on "Nintendo" expecting to find the Wii article, for instance. The omission of "the" in the opening sentence not only contradicts a widely accepted standard brought on by a lengthy discussion, but contradicts the lead section itself, which uses the grammatically-correct "the" in another sentence. Above all else, please mind WP:3RR. Just64helpin (talk) 19:14, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, we seem to have that settled. On a related subject, I noticed you changed the possessive "its" with the contraction "it's" (which equates to "it is"). P.S.: Someone changed it back already. Just64helpin (talk) 20:28, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

RfA

When you're ready, I will accept your nomination for adminship. Thanks very much for nominating me. Thingg⊕⊗ 12:35, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

ahehheh.... yeah, in retrospect, I probably should have let you tell him that... btw, it appears he is offline now.Thingg⊕⊗ 15:00, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, here goes nothin. (had to say something. My nerves are cracking right now....) Thingg⊕⊗ 15:25, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
I wouldn't let them know. He's doing fine enough anyway. Malinaccier (talk) 20:04, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Your immortal soul

My sympathies - I heard that your immortal soul will be interned after death. xenocidic (talk) 20:53, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry, I was probably going to hell anyway. The funny thing is that I am a strong athiest and think that Dawkins makes a lot of sense! You can't be punished by something that doesn't exist! ><RichardΩ612 20:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Template:User_llamas

About Template:User_llamas, I'm unsure how to userfy it. Therefore if you could do it for me, that'd be great. Or either adopt it. Whichever is easier for you. Thanks for contacting me. C.J. (talk) 15:15, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Y Done I usefy'd it to User:cjthellama/llamas. Thanks for the quick response. xenocidic (talk) 15:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the revert

Thanks for the reverts today and yesterday, here have some...

Cookies!
For reverting vandalism on my talk page, I, TheProf07, award you these Cookies! Enjoy :-) TheProf - T / C

- TheProf - T / C 16:19, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Would you...

Hello again xenocidic, I've been wondering whether to ask this for an hour or so now. So here goes, have you considered a RfA attempt? How do you feel about me offering to be your nom? If you don't feel you're ready yet, thats fine! But I would like to leave my offer open indef. Should I check back in a few months? TheProf - T / C 17:26, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey Prof. Thank you very much for your offer - it means a lot. To tell you the truth, I've actually toyed around with the idea, but after seeing how Thingg is being treated over a few minor slips, I think at this time, I would probably get burned at the stake. Let's give it a few months so I can keep my nose clean, and we'll see at that time. Though, if you want to draft the nom in the mean-time, feel free. Thanks again. =) xenocidic (talk) 17:29, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, in regards to Thinggs RfA, I know what you're saying. I thought he'd be a must for the mop! But I'm sure he'll pass a future RfA. I'll wait before drafting you're RfA page, some people who have the red link watch-listed might come in and !vote. My offer will always be open and I'll check back in a few months to see how you're feeling about it. If you feel you're ready before then, just drop me a line on my talk page, or by E-mail. Best of luck with your editing and vandal fighting in the mean time! :-) Cheers TheProf - T / C 17:42, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Aye, I meant just in a subpage or something, but we can cross that bridge when we come to it. And I still think Thingg will make it through, the opposition doesn't really have a strong position for consensus not to be reached. xenocidic (talk) 17:43, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
My worry for Thinggs RfA is that we have 13 oppose !votes already. With 6 days left to run, I fear what number the opposes' will reach, the way things are going... But we can hope that he does pass this time. TheProf - T / C 18:12, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

True, but that's a lot of time for more supporters to show up as well. I hope my comment will have some positive effect. xenocidic (talk) 18:15, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

I'd best point you in the direction of Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Cobi 3. Cobi has proven that he has the best interests of Wikipedia at heart by creating the vandal fighting ClueBot. That in his favour, and 129 supports, but he still failed. Fair enough, he had 48 oppose. But i think you see now, thats the main reason I'm cautious about RfA results. TheProf - T / C 18:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Interesting. Last night I was trying to gain some insight into how the whole process worked. From what I understand, a bureaucrat can make the determination of consensus not reached even when the supports outweight the opposes, but only if the opposes are very convincing. I'm hoping that they do not find the (imo weak) opposition reasons outweigh Thingg's positive service record. But only time will tell... xenocidic (talk) 18:35, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
I totally agree, the opposes in Thinggs are weak, number two especially! As you said, time tells all :-) TheProf - T / C 18:43, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

IP voting

Are IPs allowed to cast support votes? I ask because of this. Thanks xenocidic (talk) 12:25, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for taking so long to reply, I just woke up. But, no, a user must be registered to !vote at an RFA. But they are allowed to comment. That's why User:TheProf07 indented the comment. Personally I would've either made the comment small as well, or moved it into the comments section. The closing bureaucrat will know it's an IP comment and not take it into consideration as a !vote. Useight (talk) 15:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
k Thanks. I wasn't sure if the (!) was intended to stand for a negative (I.e. IP's are not allowed to negatively vote). xenocidic (talk) 15:41, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry about the confusion there. Many editors use "!vote" instead of "vote" because the exclamation point often means "not". For example, the term "!=" can be construed as "not equal", this is sometimes used in math and computer programming (as is "<>", which can also mean "not equal"). So by using "!vote", we're implying that it's not supposed to be a vote, but it pretty much is. So, it doesn't imply a positive or negative comment, it's just another idiosyncracy of Wikipedia. Useight (talk) 15:46, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
I understand now. Thanks =) xenocidic (talk) 15:49, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello and Request

Hello again. I have been making edits in the area of Video Games and technology recently. And, I have been attempting to include well-sourced items to some articles that I feel need work.

This work has drawn the attention of some editors who disagree. Can you review some of this material and provide insight. Thank-you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wageslave#Your_edits.28on_sony.2FMicrosoft_articles.29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wageslave#Your_edits.28on_sony.2FMicrosoft_articles.29_-_continued http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Frvernchanezzz/Wageslave_case

(note: I'm watching this page, you may reply here if you wish)

Wageslave (talk) 16:36, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

I only had time to briefly review the information wageslave, and being a newer Wikipedian, I'm going to refrain from commenting on your edits. But for my part, being a self-professed "Xbox 360 Fanboy", I try to stay away from "the competition's" articles, unless it's for vandalism reversion, or the work I did with List of PlayStation 3 games to make the treatment of "console exclusive" games match how List of Xbox 360 games does it.
That being said, the Xbox 360 articles (both Xbox 360 and Xbox 360 technical problems do seem to have an overly negative slant - I'm just not sure if you or I should be the ones to rectify it. Perhaps focus your attentions to other issues, such as improving game articles, etc. which you may find more fulfilling and less adversarial. xenocidic (talk) 16:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
That is wisdom I probably need to internalize. I tend to be a contrarian by nature, and I've found that there are POV problems with these articles. The articles that some editors want to be neg-POV are this way, and same method is used to assure other articles are given pos-POV.
I'm also not a well-experienced editor, but I'm fast loosing faith in Wikipedia.
It seems that the bar is set incredibly high for inclusion of anything critical in some articles, but the same bar is virtually subterranean for other articles. Double-standards and lack of universal standards. That kind of thing is being enforced by a dominant cabal who takes "ownership" of articles.
I'm incredibly frustrated. It seems that the best way to maintain that is to intimidate, threaten, attack and frustrate.
I'm really just learning about the "culture" here on Wikipedia, and I've become saddened by what I presumed would have been a community more interested in neutral-POV, instead, the articles are maintained with distinct POV.
Wageslave (talk) 17:02, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:Angry when beaten to a CSD userbox

Thanks you for telling me. However, some one else told me. Thanks. Have a nice day. Me what do u want? Your Hancock Please 17:21, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Userpage / GTA IV

I just hope its not against Wikipedia policy :-) TheProf - T / C 18:43, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey thanks for the tip! I've just been reading the GTA IV article. Did you create that? Or are you one of the main contributers? Either way, I think that article should be nominated for featured article status! Maybe even suggest it be the featured article on the day of the games release! I certainly can't wait to start playing it. Looks good from all the previews. Wikipedia will definitely be my second priority whilst I'm playing it! LOL TheProf - T / C 19:06, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I hope it does get featured status at some point! I assume you will be buying it? TheProf - T / C 19:13, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Its been my most anticipated game release since GTA: San Andreas! Good luck with completing it :-) TheProf - T / C 19:18, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

LOL - Thats one for your funny vandal list! TheProf - T / C 19:54, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

It's your choice, but remember, thats just an essay ;-) TheProf - T / C 19:58, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

RE:{{EAgamesT}}

So this needs to be taken to TfD? It's a template for a WikiProject that itself was CSD'd. Wouldn't that satisfy g6? (Same goes for Template:WW EAgames) xenocidic (talk) 19:04, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I went ahead and deleted {{WW EAgames}}, and if you could remove {{EAgamesT}} from all the talk pages that it is currently transcluded on, then I would be glad to speedy delete it. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 19:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
oh, goody, awb work! I'll let you know when I'm finished. cheers, xenocidic (talk) 19:25, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Ok, sounds good. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 19:27, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Done, and done. Thanks! xenocidic (talk) 19:52, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
And deleted, cheers! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 19:53, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

User:75.73.250.67

Since you're open to trout-slapping, I thought you might be the best to ask about this one. It appears to have been created by a logged in user, for some reason (and is a copy of User:Godgiven Love). I'm not really sure if it belongs. MfD, or leave it, or? xenocidic (talk) 20:42, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

That's weird, I would say that as long as the user isnt being disruptive, I would leave it alone. I would also notify the user whose page it is copied from and let him decide what to do. That's probably the best idea. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 22:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I think I'll just let sleeping dogs lie - I just wasn't sure if IP users were allowed to maintain such large userpages - especially when they weren't created by the IP itself. Cheers, xenocidic (talk) 22:25, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

RfA

This might sound like a dumb question, but are non-admins allowed to vote in RfA discussions? Clearly I could edit the page, but I'm wondering if it would count or if it would be bad form. Thanks! Isaacsf (talk) 20:59, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Most definately! Allowed and encouraged. The only people who aren't allowed are anonymous (IP) users. xenocidic (talk) 21:06, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Resign

You should type something like "updating signature" - "resign" might make people think you are "resigning from the project" ;> xenocidic (talk) 23:08, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry and Thanks    Juthani1    23:10, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
No problem at all. Nice sig. xenocidic (talk) 23:12, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


UBX Eve

“ So you are the one that stole off with my Eve UBX!!! Well, good to see that it is in good hands! --ShakataGaNai (talk) 20:14, 29 November 2007 (UTC) ”
  • Would you like me to repatriate this userbox to you? Scepia has been gone for over 6 months, might be best for the userbox to be with someone who is a little more active. xenocidic (talk) 15:55, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
RE User_talk:ShakataGaNai#UBX_Eve - It makes no mater to me really. I like to have all my UBX's - but its not a terribly big deal since the UBX really doesn't change much. --ShakataGaNai Talk 03:12, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Awesome. Thanks. --ShakataGaNai Talk 20:34, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Userboxes

why did you subst all your userboxen? xenocidic (talk) 16:54, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

If any are deleted, they'll still show on my page. The boxes that are most likely to be updated I left without substitution.

|Texas Patriot | Talk | Contributions|

18:07, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Hrm... gotcha. was just wondering. Thanks for the response. xenocidic (talk) 18:10, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
No problem, always open to questions. Nice blog by the way.

|Texas Patriot | Talk | Contributions|

18:31, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, and thanks for reading =) Happy editing, xenocidic (talk) 18:32, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:Your adoption entry... (well I suppose MY adoption entry but oh well

...probably needs updated? I fixed your username, not sure if you're still taking adoptees. xenocidic (talk) 02:10, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Removed, and thank you. // Finns 07:20, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

From Kanġi Oĥanko to you

Oh, Lord! Many, many warm thanks for your adoption offer. I sure do accept it. What's the next step?
I promise to do my best not to bother you with stupid questions… Have a nice day!
Cordially,
✓ Kanġi Oĥanko (talk) 08:50, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

PS: If need be, I'll e-mail you personal details, interests and so.

Sincere thanks for your prod… but you may feel soon how stupid my questions could be!
The first of them will come as soon as I can (I'm striving right now to have a paper put to bed before the deadline).
First of all, I'll give you details about me, what I intend to write here (though I'll probably have to stay away from some subjects, like Ukraine and Afghanistan, because of this or that, and stay away from Crimea, Chechnya / Ichkeria, Abkhazia, Georgia and 'islām, just to take a few examples, despite real knowledge of these areas [1] ).
Bye! ✓ Kanġi Oĥanko (talk) 14:14, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
  1. ^ And despite the fact that I am a laicist (or non-political) muslim Ukrainian — ¾ Ruthenian and ¼ Crimean tatar.

Thanks

Thanks for bringing that up on my talk page. I will revert it back. AP Shinobi (talk) 15:34, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

wassup

To take your mind off the RfA, why not try and fix this Wikipedia_talk:Disambiguation pages with links#Template to display project participation at top of your userpage for me (the lines across the top and bottom of the picture) ;> xenocidic (talk) 14:00, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

^ This was written prior to the RfA's closure. eh, sorry that it didn't make it thru. imo the opposes didn't really have a solid position, but oh well. perhaps it was a little premature? anyhow, hopefully it gave you some insight into where you can diversify your wikiportfolio. cheers mate, xenocidic (talk) 20:30, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Hey, just wanted to let you know that I fixed the template ({{Wikipedia:Disambiguation pages with links/Usertop}}), though it did take me more than a few minutes to figure out what was causing the horizontal lines. Apparently, Wikipedia's servers didn't like the id you gave it... Also, don't worry about the RfA. I just didn't understand the blocking/warning policy well enough. Thingg⊕⊗ 19:03, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
The ID? What the heck?! See that's something I never woulda figured out. Thanks man =) xenocidic (talk) 19:19, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Butterfly watcher userbox

I'd be happy to make one for you, did you have a picture in mind for it? xenocidic (talk) 00:07, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Lepidoptera
This user is a butterfly watcher.


If you point me to a different picture you would prefer, I can change it. xenocidic (talk) 00:13, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
There are probably tons of butterfly images already on Wikipedia, but I do not know how to review them. Since I teach students to observe rather than (mindlessly) collect butterflies, I would prefer to leave the butterfly net out of the userbox. Due to the small size of the image, a stylized bright blue or yellow butterfly on a mildly contrasting background would help to get the message across. Many thanks. --Wloveral (talk) 00:19, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
The Wikimedia Commons would be a good place to look for alternate images: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Lepidoptera . Since I don't know much about butterflies, you would probably have greater luck finding one to your liking. =) Just drop me a note when you find one. xenocidic (talk) 00:23, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
That is fantastic. Thank you so much. I hope other will also pick up this banner. BTW, the species you selected is Morpho menelaus, one that is a constant visitor to my backyard here in Brazil. --Wloveral (talk) 00:24, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
It's quite a beautiful specimen. I actually copied the entire userbox from the WikiProject you're a member of (this is allowed per the GPL), but if you want a different picture, different colours, different message, etc., just let me know! I'll add the userbox to the Animals category now. Happy editing, xenocidic (talk) 00:28, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Brazilian history userbox

If it not too much of an abuse of your kind and generous nature, how about a Brazilian history userbox? I write on the history of Brazilian exploration by naturalists during colonial times. Anyway, Argentina has a history userbox and that's enough for an international incident around here. --Wloveral (talk) 00:48, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

No trouble at all. I love to create userboxes. It's actually pretty easy to just take userboxes that already exist and modify them to taste. Here's what I've come up with so far, let me know if you want me to change it at all - different picture, text, colours, etc.
This user is interested in Brazilian history.


If you have any other ideas or requests for userboxes that don't exist, just drop by and let me know. xenocidic (talk) 01:05, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Save the Amazon Rainforest userbox

Great Brazilian history userbox. Thanks so much. What about a Save the Amazon userbox? Do we have any tree icons? Cheers, Wloveral (talk) 03:43, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not too sure about the wording... any suggestions, or does that look ok?
This user hopes we can Save the Amazon Rainforest.


Let me know on my talk page if you want anything changed (or feel free to modify it yourself). Best regards, xenocidic (talk) 03:57, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm off for the evening, so any changes or new userboxes I'll take care of in the morning =) xenocidic (talk) 04:00, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Amateur Archaeologist

Great Save the Amazon Rainforest userbox, too. That has been my beef for the past 33 years here. Thanks. BTW, is there an "Amature Archeologist" userbox. I don't want folks asking me to dig up old graves. (I do ceramics the have weathered out of the soil, and I take the pieces to the pros.) --Wloveral (talk) 05:33, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Here's what I've come up with... again, any changes at all, let me know! =) xenocidic (talk) 12:50, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
This user is an amateur Archaeologist.


It looks great and the spelling is also corrected. What more could I ask for? In a short while I will discover how to arrange these userboxes on my page, so I can set about doing one butterfly, one Brazilian scientist, and one ornamental plant from my garden per day. --Wloveral (talk) 20:12, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Cool. Glad you like it. Let me know if you had any further questions or requests! P.S. You've got "User:Bluedenim/Tropical rainforests" on your page twice. Not sure if that was intentional =) Happy userboxing! xenocidic (talk) 20:16, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for patrolling my talk page. :-). StaticGull  Talk  10:39, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

List of cooperative games for the Xbox 360

I have done the task you requested for List of cooperative games for the Xbox 360. AP Shinobi (talk) 20:25, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

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trolling insertion??!

hehehe... thanks for the "note." In this case, I'm not going to fight it because it's not really bad, but man, some people just overreact to my reverting... Thingg⊕⊗ 00:01, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[8] → lol, yes, i wasn't quite sure what to do with this. I figured plain reverting it might be in bad faith, in case you didn't notice it, so I figured I would paste it here for you to see. xenocidic (talk) 00:17, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Problem with a redirection

Hi! I tried to move Kemble Airfield to Kemble Airport, because this is how this field is officially named by the owner, but it seems I did something wrong, as both articles are still here, while Kemble Airport alone should be here. I tried to use the help pages to fix that, but… well… I didn't understand anything, as all I tried failed. How can this be fixed now?
Sorry for that! ✓ Kanġi Oĥanko (talk) 00:41, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks again for your help, and for your appreciation. I have no merit: those guys are really nice, and that's one of the airfields I do love, not only because Delta Jets are wonderful people and extraordinary machines. In fact, I hesitated to do more, for fears it would have looked like blatant advertising.
If you are interested in planes, you should try to catch this G-PSST and the guy under the helmet, Jonathon Whaley, and check there (in particular initial artwork, color scheme, final artwork) what this team achieved. I've seen this J-4104 about 6 months before she left Mollis Base, abandonned on the apron, with the Schweizer Luftwaffe wondering what they'd do with their Hawker Hunters (very few have survived).
Given her striking scheme and the fact that Whaley flies from Edinburgh to Swansea and Ramsgate at every airshow he can go to, would not “Miss Demeanour” be worth an article on its own? ✓ Kanġi Oĥanko (talk) 01:34, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Er… As many journalists, I do not read the papers! I can't tell you how many articles have been published about this plane — most of them have been local coverage and I cannot quote my own papers, according to the guidelines and honesty. But you're right. I'm not sure that the number of pilots or of simple airshow attendants can be taken into account as 'general notability'. I'd forget about it.
Goodnight! ✓ Kanġi Oĥanko (talk) 01:53, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

...for this. Prashanthns (talk) 16:25, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Wow!Thanks again for this. Prashanthns (talk) 12:34, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
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Thank you

Thanks for reverting vandalism from my talk page :) Have a nice day AVandtalkcontribs 17:19, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

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Hello, yet again

Can you please review this RFC and make comment. There is a campaign to harass me from editing, and I believe my edits are being mis-represented.

If you have a moment, can you please have a look.

Thank-you. Wageslave (talk) 23:53, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


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