User talk:Xangel

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Hello, Xangel, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome! Paxse 14:51, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Paxse 14:51, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I have made some contributions before surrounding the Mexican rock band Maná but it seems that there are certain complications that I have found. One complication is based on redirection. I had moved two albums to become Revolución de Amor and ¿Dónde Jugarán los Niños? because by the naming conventions the words 'de' and 'los' which in english means 'of' and 'the' respectively shouldn't be capitalised when the original articles were. I then came across Wikiwix and I couldn't even get to one of these articles from there because 'I moved them'. Wikiwix only gets me to the exact Wikipedia article site "Revolución De Amor" and "¿Dónde Jugarán Los Niños?" if I ever try to use Wikiwix. Is Wikiwix part of wikipedia?

Also relating to redirection comes the concerns of language conventions. If I type "donde jugaran los ninos" instead of "dónde jugarán los niños" in the search bar, no accents whatsoever I will go nowhere, not even a results page. I should be able to go the article or at least the results page no matter what since the alphabet themselves are correct. When searching, the 'o' should also consider 'ó' in for articles in the results page and so forth. This goes for the other languages as well. Is there any way that I can do to correct this?

Well thank you for you time. I am kinda new to this but i have contributed in spelling errors and grammer even. I'm also considering writing a new article of Maná's album Cuando los Ángeles Lloran which surprisingly doesn't have an article. But I can only provide on a track listing. Am I able to only provide a track lisitng for the album? Anyways thanks again

I can't answer all the questions. We frequently are asked how to redirect page A to page B. Here's how: create page A by typing "page A" into the search box, then clicking the red link where it says page A does not exist. Then type the following code:
#REDIRECT [[page B]]
Generally, you want the primary title (page B) to include the accents, and incoming redirects don't need accents. For example, Tim Krabbe redirects to Tim Krabbé. YechielMan 18:04, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Wikiwix is not part of Wikipedia, but is a search engine that does a much better job of searching Wikipedia than our own search function does. In order to be directed to ¿Dónde Jugarán los Niños? by typing without accents, you will have to create a redirect without those accents. I'd also suggest one without the upside down question mark thing.
By the way, our search engine sucks horribly. WP:SEARCH provides some other tools you can use, in addition to Wikiwix.
As for the new album page, if the artist is notable, so is the album. WP:STUB provides details on the minimum requirements - an infobox for the album, a short paragraph stating who released it and when, a track listing, as well as anything else interesting about it should be enough. A track listing alone is not enough for an article. I hope this has helped! Hersfold (talk/work) 18:33, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Music of Kingdom Hearts

This is a reply to what you left on my talk page. Always remember, guidelines are just that, not a rule. If you think the article needs to break it, then go right on ahead, find a compromise! I personally think that the old tables also looked better, but I realize that the new format I did does have it's appeals, and that "looks better" is not an absolute truth. You have to find the right solution...
I hope we can find something cool for Music of Kingdom Hearts.
For the Music of Kingdom Hearts article, we might have some trouble, because you use actual section titles, whereas the Music of FF pages just simulate them; see the difference between.

<big>'''Tracklist'''</big>

and

===Tracklist===

One way to solve this issue is to use the style="margin-top:-2.5em;" to have the table crawl over your title, making it look, like it is a part of it.
You run into problems doing this, with transparency in FireFox, and IE not showing columns without content
One of the solutions to this is to use wikitables. Since MoKH is not like that of MoFF, there are other solutions. Consider using this:

[edit] Track listing

Notice how it is also a subsection.
I think using this would definitely help the article, while keeping that look you like.
We tried it for FFVII, with a 4-Disc variant, and this was the result :[1]. Check it out.happypal (Talk | contribs) 17:25, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] bond

I notice you were changing all references of bond to Bond. This is incorrect, bond should be lowercase. I just thought I'd let you know. i said 08:12, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it does not say that. Wikipedia:Manual of Style (capital letters)#Mixed or non-capitalization says that if it goes by a lowercase or mixed capitalization, then it should be lowercase. i said 08:52, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Hm. The two guidelines contradict one another. I'll ask about it. i said 09:04, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Moving and Merging of some Maná article

{{helpme}} There is a Maná article that has been created called ¿Dónde Jugarán los Niños? (Special Edition). By conventions, original album articles should only contain the original album and if there are any edited editions of the original album it can be mentioned on the main article itself. This is my point here in regards to the article above and I hope that what i said this is true in the conventions. I want to merge ¿Dónde Jugarán los Niños? (Special Edition) to ¿Dónde Jugarán Los Niños? which is the main article at the moment.

Another point to make is that ¿Dónde Jugarán los Niños? is now a REDIRECT article instead of the main article. I would like to move ¿Dónde Jugarán Los Niños? to ¿Dónde Jugarán los Niños? because 'los' in Spanish means 'the' as by convention 'the' must always be lower case. But I cannot do this because ¿Dónde Jugarán los Niños? already exists. I remember moving "Los" to "los" but now because Manafan5]] has moved "los" to the Special Edition article, it has messed things up a bit and it seems that I cannot undo what he has done. How can I set this right so that the special edition will be merge to the main article and the main article will say "los" not "Los"? Thank you. Xangel (talk) 16:25, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

You can find out the full information about this at Help:Merging and moving pages, including how to request discussion on a move/merge (if you need it), how to request help carrying out a move/merge, and how to carry out the move or merge yourself. However, in short:
  • Renaming the main article needs the help of an administrator, because the rename would be over a page with history. You can write {{db-move}} on the page to move to, and an administrator will move (rename) the page for you to give the lowercase title.
  • You can carry out the merge without an administrator's help, but it's more difficult to do. Basically, you have to copy the relevant text from the article you're merging from to the article you're merging to, explaining where you're merging from in the edit summary (you must say where you're merging from for copyright reasons). Then you simply redirect the article you merged from to the article you merged into, correcting any double redirects that this creates (check the what-links-here of the article you merged from for redirects you'll have to retarget).
  • If you think the merge needs discussion before you make it, place {{mergefrom}} on the page you plan to merge from, and {{mergeto}} on the page you plan to merge to, to request users to discuss it. If you think the page move requires discussion, you can request it at Wikipedia:Requested moves.
Hope that helps! --ais523 17:17, 13 February 2008 (UTC)