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Peer Review

of Cotton (motorcycle) to see if you feel its now wiki-enough.. Seasalt 13:01, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

and Ducati_Apollo...bit hard to find matching wiki-links for that. But see what you think.Seasalt 13:43, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

While I have a little more experience than you it is not up to me to do a peer review. That should be a group effort, if there are people willing to do it. I will list the two article you mention on the "To do" list of the project and see who bites. If I get time I may get a chance to give it the once over myself. ww2censor 16:23, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh god, not a literal peer review, just whether you think the tagging is adequate, or does it take a peer review to get a wikify tag off? I would not enjoy taking it off to see it promptly replaced.Seasalt 11:43, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I hear you. Basically any editor can remove the wikify tag once it has been wikified. I will see if I can look at it later today or tomorrow. Cheers ww2censor 21:45, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Did a copyedit today, tightening some text and wikifying some more. Hope you approve but this edit will force me to write up some new pages for some of the redlinks that now exist like the Isle of Man results. I know there must be a way to reference the same source twice without listing it twice but don't know how to do it, yet. Cheers ww2censor 17:52, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

and Ducati Apollo?Seasalt 00:22, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Matchless has been changed, and would appreciate comments on what further changes may be needed. Have been going over my previous contribs adding inter-wiki links and citations. Even HRD.Seasalt 00:34, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I have a problem with Matchless, AJS and AMC because of the take overs that happened. I think there needs to be a cut off point for Matchless and AJS as individual companies and everything after that time should be under AMC. So until something appropriate (IMHO) happens, and I am not sure what that actually is, I would prefer to defer any other comments, or criticisms, of your work done. Maybe we should discuss this topic at the project as a collaboration. ww2censor 05:42, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Triumph has the same problem with BSA-Triumph, Norton-Villiers, and Norton-Villiers-Triumph all in together. Is this going to be equally applied?Seasalt 07:04, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Your phrasing implies I make the decisions on this but as you know it is a consensus, so let's see what works best for all. Actually I did not even look at those article you mentioned yet. I am only getting back into the motorcycling manufacturers recently having concentrated on the Isle of Man and a few riders. So let's see what works best and, as mentioned, I think this needs discussion on the project not here. Keep up the good work. Cheers ww2censor 15:29, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Is there a time frame for this? By that, is this discussion likely to happen soon.Seasalt 13:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

No time frame at all, so let's start a discussion on this topic at the project. ww2censor 15:28, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

CSS

It's the de facto standard for navigation boxes. Also it's better to define the appearance of such comment components in the stylesheet for various reasons (see separation of style and content). Thanks, ed g2s • talk 20:19, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Craig Morgan's I Love It article

I found the article on country singer Craig Morgan's album I Love It, which you so kindly tagged as needing references, wikification, and expansion, through the "pages needing to be wikified" page. Although the farthest thing from an expert on this album, this artist, or even this music genre, I did some research and have done my best to clean it up. I removed the tags as well. If you would like to take a look and tell me what you think, I would appreciate it! Thanks, Emmegan 13:44, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Did a little extra wikify and formatting for you. Albums are not mt forte, so have a look at some others and copy the style. ww2censor 05:42, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, will do. Emmegan 12:35, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

User warnings

Hi, I just warned an editor that you had already warned and I noticed that when you inserted the {{test1}} template, you didn't do a subst: on it. There's a bot that will do the subst: on warnings you have already issued, so no need to go back and redo those. -- Gogo Dodo 05:20, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

IOM TT Riders

Is there any easy way to check rider nationality? Re: 1947 Isle of Man TT , 1948 Isle of Man TT .

The Bob Foster wiki-article is about an American light heavyweight boxer, and not a British motorcycle racer, so I have used "A R (Bob) Foster".

On the Royal Enfield page, the section Royal Enfield Customs looks like thinly disguised advertising?Seasalt 01:28, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't know of any resource that gives nationally of IOM TT riders. You just have to research it if there is no article to tell you. The Bob Foster link issue happens quite a bit for the more common names, hence the naming convention of adding (motorcycle rider) or (motorcyclist) to the name. I agree with your Royal Enfield comment and think it should be removed. You are doing lots of good work. In regard to the Isle of Man TT results pages I tend to research some commentary about the races to add to the introduction to make it more interesting than here are the results. I also prefer to see the speeds given in the results if they are available. You also seen to have taken on board that it is unnecessary to overwikify the riders and marques links. Once is enough in the listing, though I do link in the introduction if marques and riders are mentioned. That's just me if you look at the earlier entries for the 1910s and 1920s. Cheers ww2censor 03:22, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Speeds weren't in the page I copied as a template. Is there a template?Seasalt 03:59, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

No template I know of, just add another column by the addition of 2 || per row. Have a look at the 1910 Isle of Man TT for a 5 column table. ww2censor 04:03, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

With the difference between 1924 and 1950 format, what year should that change? Seasalt 04:11, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Not sure. I just went with the early style and think the first 3 places are enough if there was an external link to a more detailed results webpage. ww2censor 14:57, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Speeds now in 1939 Isle of Man TT. Are split times/gaps necessary for new ones?Seasalt 04:48, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Looks good. For me the split times seem overkill but no need to remove unless you feel strongly about it. ww2censor 14:57, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

No, just thinking about not including them in new ones to reduce the time involved. You're probably better for the intro piece, as it's yr special interest. Chromie McCandless: thought the McCandless brothers were Irish, or did Chromie ride for Britain? Do u know? Seasalt 10:34, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Make it look ok with too much effort. Remember that Northern Ireland riders are usually classed a British though the Irish Post Office did issue s set of stamps that included some NI riders. That's the nature of the island. ww2censor 03:36, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

New Cork vote

There is a new move request and survey regarding Cork. This time it is proposed to move Cork to Cork (city) in order to move Cork (disambiguation) to Cork. You are being informed since you voted in the last Cork survey. See Talk:Cork. --Serge 07:36, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Philatelist

I removed the link between Gerald Davis, painter and Gerald Davis, philatelist. They certainly are not the same person. Fconaway 01:30, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

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Sources Problem

Yes, a big job referencing Ducati... (including stubs like Ducati 851 )

User:Seasalt/Ducati Sources shows the primary sources used in Ducati Motor Holding, Ducati Quattrovalvole motorcycles and Ducati V-twin motorcycles. If these are even able to be used, what format would i cite them in? The citing sources page hasn't made it any clearer.Seasalt 12:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Noted citation needed on New Imperial Doug Prentice Lightweight win. The citation was at the end of the next sentence, but I have duplicated it at the location requested, and added a second reference.Seasalt 12:06, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

The Ducati 851 looks fine though I did add some wikilinks. You should remember that people finding the articles may not know anything about the topic, so make sure to introduce it fully, even if that seems repetitive to other work you have done, and create several links to what might think as common knowledge but to casual readers this may be new, so give them as much as possible to learn from or progress through the subject. However be careful not to overwikify. I think you tend to underwikify your articles and there is a balance.

I don't recall making a citation comment on the New Imperial page I only made a copyedit. However, the citation is not the problem but there is no verifiability of the statement that Prentice won that race when the major TT database shows there was no lightweight race that year. I suggest you contact the New Imperial Owners Association and quiz them on it making sure to point them to the IOMTT.com database content even though the The Mountain Course says he won that race. We need to find out who is correct. Was there a race or not and if so did he win it, if not where did those errors come from and are we sure they are errors. Something is wrong there. Until then I would remove the content or at least make it a comment by adding "<:!--" and "-->" around the text (without the colon) to make it invisible for the time being. Cheers, your are doing well. ww2censor 13:55, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

The second source is the New Imperial Owners Association.

The "mountain course" says "The Lightweight 250 c.c. Junior was a walk over for the Levis stable" in 1920. Sounds to me like a name change. I have had no answer from IOM TT site to this posted question: http://www.iomtt.com/forums/thread/64372.aspx, nor to an email on same sent to their contact.

He was obviously the first 250 cc to come in. He is listed as tenth outright in the Junior for that year. This repeats itself with other makes claiming 250 cc wins in the same fashion. Even if these results are "unofficial" they have been recognised and used......and get a mention on the iom tt site as well.

Shouldn't that make the "An extra Race was effectively introduced on the first Race day of 1922, Tuesday 30th. May, by splitting the 250 c.c. machines away from, but run simultaneously with the 350 c.c.'s" unverifiable too? Some sites, while present are hardly active, and I rarely get an answer to such queries. What is needed is an old TT racer or TT history buff that was around then. I don't suppose you know of one by any chance?

Obviously the author saw no contradiction in his piece...? I just had an idea. It wasn't referred to as a TT. Not all races at iom are TT races. The "new" race was when it became a TT race. They are not in the TT database because they were not TT races. There was no TTrophy for the race. Surely that's it. (?)

Still prefer it with-held?

From: Talk:Isle of Man TT#Pre 1922 Lightweight 250 c.c. Junior at IOM The first 250cc Lightweight Race was first run in 1922. The 1920 and 1921 Junior Races had a seperate 250 cc class but appeared to run concurrently. In 1920 R.O Clarke was fourth in the Junior TT Race but, finished in first place in the 250cc class. For 1921 Doug Prentice was 10th in the Junior TT Race, but finished first in the 250cc lightweight class. (Agljones 12:41, 8 November 2006 (UTC))

Found it. This is all quite clearly explained on Isle_of_Man_TT#The 1920's There is no verifiability problem if this page is correct. Seasalt 13:15, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

David Feldman

Hello. I am beginning to write an article about David Feldman on fr.wiki (both the man and the auction company. Have you some informations and sources about the man, please ? And what was/is the impact on Irish philately of his Handbook of Irish Philately ? Have a nice sunday. Sebjarod 08:15, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

David is one of the great Irish philatelists with great knowledge. Please do not describe his as being from Great Britain; he is from the Republic of Ireland. He was asked to sign the Roll of Distinguished Irish Philatelists some years ago (I can get you that data). I don't know if he was also asked to sign the British roll as you have written. His books and catalogues were the mainstay of Irish philately in the 1960s and 70s before his move the Geneva to open the, now famous, philatelic auction house. Be careful not to make the article sound like advertising for the company. Many record stamp prices have been set by his company [1]. He recently, I don't have the date to hand, sold one of his own collections of Irish postal history, The Emerald Collection. I have the catalogue but not here and could not find it on the web site. The company he started in Dublin was taken over by David MacDonnell who still operated out of the same facility specialising in Irish philatelic material. You could ask him for more details on David's early life and influences. You should check out this article about David. I just met him recently again in Washington this June 2006. Hope that helps. I will look out for more details for you and post them here when I get them as I too want to start an en-wiki article. Cheers ww2censor 14:22, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you.

British Isles was a temporary intel since until now I don't have enough proof of his nationality.

Are there two fr:Roll of Distinguished Philatelists, aren't they ? :) I certainly made a mistake : I saw the Irish one on the company's website. If only the philatelic societies in Europe used more the internet to store this kind of news and intels... grrrrr...

For the advertising, I love to make another articles about others philatelic auctions dealers. I did this one since I've got an advertisment brochure and the Private Treaty 2006 catalogue during the last Salon philatélique d'automne here in Paris. I longly chatted with one of their employee about their activities of course and the difficulties to find philatelic informations.

While correcting the fr.article thank to you, I discover that the Feldman family have created a real estate auction company last may.

Good evening. Sebjarod 16:31, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

More correctly I think you need to write the Roll of Distinguished Philatelists of the Federation of Philatelic Societies of Ireland. You are correct about some philatelic society websites are behind on their data, if they even have a website. I run 5 philatelic society websites but must rely on the officers and members to provide data. I do not know anything about a real estate company, but will get back to you when I have some more info. I have much of my library in storage because I moved house but hope to get some of it here soon. Perhaps you can help me with some of my French articles, either by translation or with details. I have been trying to add to Lectoure and Condom, Gers amongst others. ww2censor 17:24, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Ask your questions about French-related articles, I'll see how I can help. Sebjarod 19:18, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Jarno Saarinen Image

Thank you for straightening the Saarinen image. I've tried to do the same with the John Surtees image with no luck. Any help would be appreciated!Orsoni 04:45, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

How's that? ww2censor 05:35, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!Orsoni 13:03, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

IOM TT Riders list

I moved it from the List of Grand Prix motorcycle racers article, because it didn't really belong there. I've reverted the IOM TT article on your suggestion, because I agree with you. Readro 16:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Places on Irish stamps?

I replied to your comment on Johann Kaspar Zeuß on my talk page, but just out of idle curiosity...

I was doing a few edits connected to pages linking to St. Mary's Cathedral, Limerick and I was wondering if perhaps there should be a category for places featured on Irish stamps? ;o} Flowerpotman 03:04, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Never thought about it, but I wonder how many places don't have articles yet; quite a few I expect. I doubt it would be worthwhile and beside which list are not exactly encouraged on Wikipedia. Cheers ww2censor 05:29, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Official Peer Review?

Peer Review What does that mean? What are "GA" and "FA" status? Jeff dean 18:53, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Good Article and Featured Article. ww2censor 02:18, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Seegon has posted a brief note at Wikipedia:Peer review#Motorcycle, but with this on his user's page "The other thing I like to waste valuable time doing is the occasional spot of heartbreaking at peer review." one might not take him seriously. Seasalt 05:55, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

You may well be right about Seegon but he does have a point that the TOC is rather long, but then there are several areas to be covered in the topic. It might be possible to reduce the TOC a little but I hope we see some more constrictive comments soon. Perhaps I will ask some others editors I know to comment. Have a great New Year everyone. Cheers ww2censor 17:41, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Unit Formatter to peerreviewer

That units device of Bobblewick has been incorporated into http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AndyZ/peerreviewer.js , but this does it slightly differently. It fills the space between the numbers and units e.g. It had a 61.2 inch wheelbase, and weighed 596 lb (270 kg). There seems to be a no whitespace rule for units. It does make errors in its other changes...it changed sqfour.html into sqf tour.html, so there is a need to check its highlighted changes. Also it does not activate untill a second set of clicks are applied, in Mozilla at least. I have applied it to Ariel Square Four and Ducati Apollo. I see the fill in does not show despite nowiki, needs viewing in edit mode to see (in Mozilla). Seasalt 11:19, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

I am really not sure what you are trying to do here. ww2censor 20:58, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Probably just babbling about something u might not be interested in, but these tools have taught me things, even if they do have bugs. Reading up on peer review, came across the above tool, gave it a try, and found the list of suggestions informative, and tried its auto-format. If it had been of interest, I would have been interested in your "review" of what it does. Seasalt 02:27, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for wikifying G80. Got up this morning, already done. Regarding above: there's so much of this detail format stuff to remember or become aware of that I found that tool helped more in the short term than the official help pages. Still plenty I do not know. Happy New Year.Seasalt 01:08, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Fenit Island

You redirected to Fenit. I have been inputting basic information on several local topics, and building slowly on the initial entry. Please revert to my original entry. I will work on perfect formatting later. Thanks - MOC —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fenitharbour (talk • contribs)

Dingle Marina, initial entry. Michael O' Carroll 23:19, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the corrections to Dingle Marina. I generally work late at night and go back and edit later - if it has not already been edited. Maybe its a messy way to work!? Michael O' Carroll 23:19, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Quasar

Well, to be honest, i'm not very familiar with motorcycles, I just saw it and thought it was an interesting vehicle deserving of an article, but if you come across any other interesting microcars/enclosed motorcycles you think I might be interesting in working on, feel free to drop me a message and i'll think about it! Thanks -- feb^talk 02:37, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

List of Irish flat horse races

I've added an intro to List of Irish flat horse races and its equivalents - an explanation of the different "Groups" can be found in the article Conditions races, which I've linked to in the new intros. -- Zafonic 21:34, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Motorcycling Wikiproject

Hi ww2censor.

Thanks for the welcome message. As posted next to my name on the project page, I am mostly an interwiki linking user (specially fr/en) and a big fan of the Biker Build-Off TV show. I've already updated the episode guide which was a great way to create a mini-portal dedicated to custom and chopper bike designers. I don,t have that much time to spend on Wikipedia these days but since I was already browsing the Internet while watching the show, I just took things one step further ; )

I've also already noticed a few bike designer names will have to end up on a disambiguation page and I must admit that the work I've done so far is a little rough on that front.

At the same time, since it had been a while since I actively contributed, I've made a few beginners mistakes which resulted in multiples consecutive edits of the same page (bah, it's the end result that matters right?) and the creation of a duplicate category (see Category:Motorcycle builder). I must admit that it was my understanding that category names should be singular instead of plural but maybe it's just on the french Wikipedia.

Anyhow, thanks again for the welcome and sorry about the duplicate category.

Ciao. Stéphane Thibault 05:11, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and sorry about not reading your message about replies before posting... See the kind of mistakes I told you about?

Deleting unsourced comment

I reverted some unsourced information about socio-economic problems in the article about Bray, that you had deleted. I'm finding sources at the moment. Not all edits by unregistered users are false! So far he seems to be correct, I'll add sources soon, when I have found good official ones. --Jackaranga 15:19, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I added a source, its from the | Website of the National Documentation Centre on Drug Use --Jackaranga 15:32, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't see anything is that source to verify Bray is any worse or better than any other town in Ireland, so for me that does not qualify as a verifiable source. The reason I deleted the whole passage was because not even one statement was verified and while the whole edit indicated Bray was worse than other towns there was nothing to back it up. Strictly speaking when adding such a large amount of contentious wording, it should be verified with references when the edit is made and not walk away, expecting others to fill in the blanks afterwards. I am quite aware that anon IP editors can make good contributions. Let's just make sure we make it right sooner rather than later. Cheers. ww2censor 19:56, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I know I am new to wikipedia so, don't hesitate to say if I do something wrong. Maybe for some reason the editor felt strongly about it but did not take the time to read all the pages about how to edit wikipedia properly. --Jackaranga 21:25, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I see you are fairly new to Wikipedia, but If I read the Bray edit correctly, I see 11 allegations for which you have referenced just 2. As I stated above I would be inclined to add statements of such contention only when I was able to give references. The edit paints Bray in a very poor light and while the statements may be true, we are unable to check them so they should not be there - that is one reason for reverting edits. What do you know about Bray anyway? It is some years since I was there but drugs are all over Ireland these days and the knock on effects are basically the same everywhere not just in Bray. I also see you removed the citation tag I added. I could have added 11 to be more accurate, so a citation tag should still be included until the statements are verified or removed as unverifiable. BTW, I see you don't yet know how to make inline references, so I will change them and you can review, so you can copy the style. ww2censor 21:35, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I'm not contesting the fact that you are better than me. Sorry I offended you. Jackaranga 13:11, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

No offence taken. For new editors it's just a learning process but doing work will give you experience. If you do something very wrong you can be pretty sure someone will revert your work. You may also want to read up on some of the Policies and Guidelines that were posted on your talk page in the welcome from User:Safemariner. If you have any questions, just ask. Cheers ww2censor 16:19, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Why I am not putting the translation in user space

I started this translation because several people have discussed (on Talk:Xueta) the need to do this. I am placing it in encyclopedia space because I do not want anyone else to feel inhibited from collaborating on what will doubtless be a difficult undertaking, which I certainly will not complete entirely on my own. This is done routinely by projects such as WP:SPATRA, in which I am quite active.

Please see my remarks at User:Jmabel#Looks like I will be far less active on Wikipedia. I've been active in Wikipedia for a long time. I am still interested in the project, but am frankly sick of the increasingly legalistic atmosphere. If you want, you are welcome to nominate what I just started for deletion. Please be aware, however, that if you do so, I will yet further decrease my participation in Wikipedia. - Jmabel | Talk 05:45, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your explanation. Obviously it is up to you to decide if you wish to reduce your Wikipedia contributions for whatever reasons you have, hopefully not due to my tagging one article to which you have a serious commitment. That was not my intention and seeing that you are a long time editor, I expect you know the usual procedure for non-English articles is to tag them for translation, as I did. As you know, if you are part of an active group dealing with such articles I presume the 2 weeks of the tag will be quite sufficient to get things well under way, showing good faith and then not needing deletion. You or any other editor is at liberty to delete the tag when the translation has been done. Unfortunately, I have seen quite a number of foreign articles that just sit there with no editing action but you quite obviously are committed to a translation so good luck. Also thanks for your contributions. ww2censor 05:58, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm not objecting to the tagging. I'm objecting to the note on my talk page telling me not to do this in article space. - Jmabel | Talk 07:01, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Well apologies for that. Maybe it would have ben better to use the {{UE}} tag instead, but as I told you I have seen several non-English articles that are posted and then never have anything done with them. You obviously do not fall in that category so a gentler note might have been better but I would not know that without looking in detail at your edits. Cheers ww2censor 16:08, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Ennis

Hi Ww2censor. Many thanks for reverting the edits to Ennis by User:A bit ifffy, who of course is not actually me but an impersonator. Cheers, A bit iffy 20:27, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

At first I wondered if it was a sock puppet of your, as I had seen your user name recently, but the edits did not look like your unless you are changing your style. Cheers ww2censor 21:05, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Coliban Water

I have just created the Coliban Water article and it now has been blocked because of a supposed infringement of copyright.

Coliban Water is not a commercial organisation and there should be no issue with using this text. I work for this organisation and my only intent was to have a presence on Wikipedia. I would like to have access to this page again so I can suitably alter the current text. I do not which to write this from scratch again. Pprevos 05:32, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

An administrator has decided to delete the page. In fact by your own admission your edit was advertising and likely you do not have permission to use the text you did. If you believe this is a notable organisation then you will have to rewrite it in your own words but because you work for the organisation you are likely biased, so in that case let someone else write about it if it is so important. Maybe Coliban Water is not actually a commercial organisation but it is not a non-profit either. ww2censor 05:40, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

General note: Assume good faith on User talk:Joel.anker.undefined

February 2007

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. However, we must insist that you assume good faith while interacting with other editors, which you did not on User talk:Joel.anker. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Wikidudeman ^(talk) 21:17, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

So a level 2 warning is now considered to be bad faith in you opinion, or is this a new policy or guideline? Unfortunately tagging an edit of Joel.anker and warning him has nothing to do with good faith, His edit of Afilio was tagged for notability issues and I left the level 2 warning on his talk page. He has now reposted the same page 4 days after it was deleted and it has been tagged by Mhking with the same {{nn-band}} tag though I have added the repost tag. That page was previously deleted on Feb 14 and the current page creation date is 18 February. Perhaps your RC patrol is too lenient on notability grounds but you know well that repeatedly posting the same non-notable band info is vandalism which is why I try to always include the page name in my warning edit, so you can see what page name was previously tagged even if it no longer exists. BTW, there is no need to welcome me when you are in fact a newer editor than I am. Let me reiterate that this has nothing to do with good faith. Cheers ww2censor 22:30, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

No. You said "Please do not add nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism." The article does not fit the narrow criteria of "nonsense".Wikidudeman ^(talk) 03:04, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually you are correct, I must have used an improper warning for the situation at the time, but the administrator who deleted it was happy to do so. At the time there was no claim of notability. It hardly merits suggesting bad faith. ww2censor 03:13, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Encyclopedia of Stamps

Hi i too am a stamp collector but am about to sell off my collection its getting too big! I have about 70 albums from countries Abu Dhabi to Zululand! I see that pages are gradually being set up for each country but do you think it would be a good idea to eventually have a different page for each stamp issue or at least for each year in the country in question with each stamp and issue pictured and discussed and analysed? If this were allow to develop each country could have its own stamp category organized by year. I am thinking of doing this on here for Abu Dhabi. 1964 -1972. WHat do you think? Many countries have produced so many stamps that you can't discuss them all on on page! Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:13, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

First of all I think each of the 700 or so enties should have a page discussing the stamps but imagine the potential of how it can develop. Eventually it could be built to have a page on each issue!! or each year by country illustrating all of the issues - but unlike Stanley Gibbons could give a lot more info -and its free!! Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

What you are really talking about is a stamp catalogue and that is already being discussed for development at the Wikibooks site. I cannot agree with your suggestion to have a page for each issue, or even each year, on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia not a catalogue, so from my perspective I see the stamps of a country having an individual article like those in all the sub-categories here with any sub-articles as necessary and a small number of notable stamps having their own articles like those listed at List of notable postage stamps for which several need doing as there are still many redlinks.

If you want to look at a decent country stamp article (yes I am polishing my own halo) have a look at this one that I spent 3 months doing. Remember that most stamps of any individual country are not notable in anything other than a local sense, so do not deserve space in an encyclopaedia and any new pages may be deleted by administrators or tagged for deletion by other editors. Hopefully you get the point. Whether you agree or not, and whether you go ahead anyway, you would also need to be very mindful of the copyright problems that go along with images of stamps. Instead my advise is that you should devote your effort into writing one or two good articles on the stamps of countries your have knowledge of and reference material for, or improve some existing articles as there are many that need expanding to make them even half decent. There is plenty of work to be done in tackling any one of the articles listed in the Post and philately stubs alone, especially in any of the stamps and postal history articles that would fit well with your A &ndash: Z countries collections. Cheers ww2censor 17:19, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Changes OK

No problem with your edit on my user psge. ColinBoylett 15:18, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

what did I do?

Ok, seriously, what did I do wrong? I used the sand box and still, I got a third-level warning for "nonsense". Please reply W00FD0G 02:43, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't see any edit record of you using the Sandbox. Making a new page 50nwr0yk with blatant nonsense was in the main space and not in the sandbox, so for that reason an administrator deleted it once it was tagged as nonsense, which it was. If you make verifiable, constructive edits to Wikipedia they will not be deleted, like your recent edits to CyberPower PCs. ww2censor 02:50, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for replying, and I actually did try to use the sandbox, I clicked the sandbox button and I clicked on the link on the web page that it was linked to, and it brought me to the page that I "vandalized". Maybe I did something wrong? Could you maybe tell me if I did do something wrong? Thanks. W00FD0G

I have no idea what you did at the sandbox because the history does not show any edits made by you going back for all today. In fact I went back 4 days and still there was nothing, unless you did it before you registered. You can look at it yourself but your user-name does not appear here (you need to click on the "next 100" or whatever number of edits you are viewing). There is also no link to a page 50nwr0yk from the sandbox, so I cannot tell you what you actally did. Don't worry about it if you continue to follow the policies and guidelines you will stay out of trouble but be bold too. We need good, intelligent people with knowledge to improve many articles. There are several WikiProject that you can join if you find a topic you like and know a bit about. Cheers ww2censor 03:46, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

New editor

I am quite new to all this. Indeed I do work in advertising, but it wasn't my intentsion to make Wikipedia into one, perhaps I need to read a bit more into unbias writing for once!

I fully understand what you are saying in relation to the articles, and I will try my best to ammend them to the required spec's. I'll have a look at other pages and see how best to reword and format the HASOI article! -- HASOI2007 19:30, 27 February 2007 (UTC) B Smith

Not a problem, just have a look around and you will see the style of things and check out the links on the welcome note I left for you especially the Five pillars. I will be happy to help. BTW, I recent addition was an article on Weston Airport but it needs some extra information to even get it going. I remember that many trainee pilots, some of my friends, would start out in Weston before migrating to bigger and better things. Grass runways and all. When did that change? Cheers ww2censor 22:46, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Abu badali#Motorcycle stub

Just left you a message there. --Abu badali ^(talk) 14:24, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

BMW MOA stub

Interesting. I was taken to the cleaners by Ed g2s recently for this article being too long. So I chopped it mercilessly. And now it's a stub :) Jeff dean 18:58, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh dear me! I did not look at the history, so did not see that it had been much longer. It just seems to short now to be called anything but a stub. If you disagree, remove the tag. Cheers ww2censor 19:11, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

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