Talk:Wudang Tai Chi Chuan

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[edit] Lineage

That's a good looking lineage table on the page, wish the home Tai Chi page one looked that good. but however, it completely omits such figures as, umm, Chen Wangting, for whom there is documented evidence. The Chen family martial arts did not begin with Chen ChangXing. Not that I am claiming they are the sole progenitors or denying the distinct possibility of Jiang Fa or of course Zhang San Feng but Chen Wangting is a verifiable figure in the lineage, you shouldnt just leave him out. VanTucky 18:15, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

There's documented evidence for them all if you only know where to look. The reason that there are many masters missing is that the style's masters do not consider them relevant to its development. That is not to say that other masters are not relevant to the development of TCC overall, just that if I put all possible masters in, the lineage diagram would lose its relevance to the content of the article.

As I discussed with you before the reason the article is laid out that way, is because it is constructed from the style's point of view, which is then, I believe, a fair representation of what the style believes it is, and not what you or others believe it should be or is!

I am certainly happy to create a nice lineage diagram for the Tai Chi article, but then I may produce something of which you and or others do not approve!!

Realtaichi 14:30, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

No, those sound like a perfectly reasonable justifications for the state of the lineage on this article. and it would be helpful to have a better looking one on the main page. just not this exact one. and I think we should without a doubt start it with ZSF, and include Jiang Fa, Wang Zongyue and other figures not in the historical record as solidly as later ones. its important to include them whatever my personal speculations on the matter bc it is wihtout a doubt possible that they contributed to the fomentation of Taiji. VanTucky 00:27, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Secondary sources?

So far, the article seems to be based entirely on primary sources for its info, that is, sourced entirely by the subject(s) of the article. That means most of the info in the article can be challenged as it stands, rendering it basically a stub. Are there any secondary sources that anyone knows of? --Bradeos Graphon (talk) 03:42, 10 January 2008 (UTC)