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[edit] Order of commercial licenses

A chronlogical list of commercially licensed television stations in the United States. Dates are when the station received its commercial license (not construction permit):

1. WNBT — New York, NY (July 1, 1941)

1. WCBW — New York, NY (July 1, 1941)

3. WPTZ — Philadelphia, PA (Sept. 16, 1941)

4. WRGB — Schenectady, NY (Feb. 26, 1942)

5. WABD — New York, NY (May 2, 1944)

6. WBKB — Chicago, IL (July 1, 1946)

7. WTTG — Washington, DC (Jan. 3, 1947)

8. KTLA — Los Angeles, CA (Jan. 22, 1947)

9. KSD — St. Louis, MO (Feb. 8, 1947)

10. WWJ — Detroit, MI (March 4, 1947)

11. WNBW — Washington, DC (June 27, 1947)

12. WFIL — Philadelphia, PA (Sept. 13, 1947)

13. WMAL — Washington, DC (Oct. 3, 1947)

14. WMAR — Baltimore, MD (Oct. 27, 1947)

15. WTMJ — Milwaukee, WI (Dec. 3, 1947)

16. WEWS — Cleveland, OH (Dec. 17, 1947)

(Zenith's WTZR in Chicago was on the air with a commercial license on Jan. 31, 1946, although television historian Bob Cooper writes that it was "clearly" an experimental station used for testing of over the air pay television.) — Walloon 08:03, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Zenith's WTZR never went on-the-air. The "Phonevision" experiments were over KS2XBS. WTMJ-TV may have been the 15th station to be licensed, but it was the 11th to go on the air. It operated on its construction permit and temorary authorization for some time before it was formally licensed by the FCC. Nitelinger 18:05, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

I just rechecked my sources (mostly contemporary newspaper accounts), and all 14 of the television stations before WTMJ-TV in the list above were indeed on the air before WTMJ — with regular call letters, not experimental. (And WTZR is not one of those 14.) WTMJ-TV was the 15th commercial station on the air. That is, of course, not counting all the experimentally licensed television stations on the air from 1928 onward. — Walloon 02:56, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I just checked, and WTMJ-TV used to claim that they were the 11th, but in their records, which are archived at the University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee library, I also found a document citing the Codel TV factbook on Early Stations that shows them as the 15th. The list varies slightly from yours, Steve, but the ranking is the same. (Codel showed WMAR-TV on 10/30/1947 and WRGB on 12/01/1947. It did not list WRGB, but I believe my records (elsewhere right now) show your date.Nitelinger 22:03, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Section Added

I've added a "Former Personalties" section to this article. The first personality I've added is Mike LaPoint. I don't know when he signed on to WTMJ-TV as I'm not from that area. I'm from the area he moved to.--Megamanfan3 (talk) 15:53, 9 March 2008 (UTC)