User talk:Wragge

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Some examples of earlier memorable contributions here are:

• In cases where there's the problem of text "crushing" up to fill the gap beside a graph, I made a little tool... feel free to use it: stick {{subst:User:Feco/break}} immediately below the image tag in the code. This will prevent upward crushing by the following graf. Note that using the subst tag is VERY IMPORTANT... otherwise all kinds of bad things happen to my userspace. Feco 18:55, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• I asked: "The graph looks good, but is it legal to make such close copies?" Bluemoose's reply: yes - i probably could have just cut and paste their graphs and used them as 'fair use' - i have seen it done on other pages (gini coefficient, until i made a new graph) . plus the academic who drew them didnt exactly make them up out of thin air! Bluemoose 13:18, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

• I agree about the state of this little corner of wikipedia. When I get a chance I plan to write a whole group of important entries that are missing for game theory. I'm keeping a list on my user page, feel free to add to it or add one of those entries if you like. Perhaps we should start a wikiproject? -Kzollman 23:28, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 prisoner's dilemma and arms race 2 From the Bank of Wikipedia. Your account is opened 2.1 You gave 17.86 coins to newbie account User:Y0u 2.2 You gave 13.88 coins to newbie account User:Hall_Monitor 2.3 You gave 11.11 coins to newbie account User:Sockenpuppe 2.4 Due to the recent ban, my frontpage has been moved to User:Bank_of_Wikipedia/Accounts 3 Distraction (sic!) of the Pathological Pedant 4 Your account 5 Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Starfleet ranks and insignia 6 Doomsday Argument article 7 More game theory stuff 8 Doomsday argument 9 Conquer Online 10 Random remarks 11 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot 12 Please consider voting for poverty on the article improvement drive 13 You helped choose Poverty as this week's WP:ACID winner 14 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot 15 Season's Greetings 16 Comment 17 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot 18 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot

[edit] prisoner's dilemma and arms race

Hello, I have read your note about failure to prove classic PD behavior in the case of arms race on prisoner's dilemma, and I wonder, shouldn't the arms race example rather belong to iterated prisoner's dilemma section? Also, you might find interesting that Steve Keen in his recent papers argues that iterated, not classic, prisoner dilemma is in fact behind the behavior of competitive firms, which follows that in equilibrium, even with competition, the price remains monopolistic. Samohyl Jan 06:38, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I do think its interesting, and please move the comment into whichever section you feel is appropriate.

I was worried about adding a couple of slightly contoversial items to the article without citations, but it seems as though the Wikipedia:Footnote3 style references are broken at the moment. When they are fixed I will try to add more references to this page.

Thanks for reading, Wragge 11:00, 2005 Jun 4 (UTC)

[edit] From the Bank of Wikipedia. Your account is opened

I opened your account. Our bank applied Rule 3, and now you have 142.86 initial coins. By accepting these initial coins, you accept rule 3 and you are also willing to give an appropriate amount of coins to newbies. Please express any possible disagreement in the rules page. You can use these coins as a medium of exchange here in wikipedia. For example, you can ask another wikipedian to make specific contributions, deletions, or cast votes for a subject, or pay him with your money for whatever reason. Its not bank's job to punish you in case your transactions are against wikipedia policy. But have in mind that if you are doing illegal transactions, you may be punished by admins. The bank is going to pay you 2 coins for each person you are going to introduce to the Bank.

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You are welcome! Bank of Wikipedia 06:30, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thank you very much Bank of Wikipedia, I now have more than 14% of the world supply of BoW coins - I shall dedicate my great wealth to philanthropy. Should my account be terminated for any reason, I hearby will these coins into a trust fund established for a named chair in linguistics at the Wikipedia:University, should it ever exist.

Yours, with very sincere regards,

Wragge 07:40, 2005 Jun 5 (UTC)

[edit] You gave 17.86 coins to newbie account User:Y0u

This is because of Rule 3.1. In case you dont like this rule, please vote disagree in the rules page. Yours truly. Bank of Wikipedia 08:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm happy to help those less fortunate than myself, but I think my vote against rules redistributing coins can be assumed by now.

Support your local bank, Wragge 09:35, 2005 Jun 8 (UTC)

[edit] You gave 13.88 coins to newbie account User:Hall_Monitor

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Yours truly. Bank of Wikipedia 05:54, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] You gave 11.11 coins to newbie account User:Sockenpuppe

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Yours truly. Bank of Wikipedia 06:43, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Due to the recent ban, my frontpage has been moved to User:Bank_of_Wikipedia/Accounts

Remember, I can always prove that I am the original "Bank of Wikipedia". Ask the admins to unban the account, and I will confirm my claim.BoW Bank 13:14, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Distraction (sic!) of the Pathological Pedant

To err is human; to expose mistakes on one's own User Page--Wraggenous. OwenX 19:17, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I always wondered why Wikipedians spent less effort on their home page than on all of their article contributions, but now I realize it's quite hard to subedit an article about yourself.

I've only encountered about 0.2% of active Wikipedians, but I suspect I'm very far from taking the pedantry crown; for instance, several users have names based on the word. Anyway, that's good. My doctor says that I should become less pedantic as I learn more.

Cheers, Wragge 03:31, 2005 Jun 8 (UTC)

[edit] Your account

The history of your user page ([1]) suggests that someone has been able to use your account; I'd change my password if I were you. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 10:13, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It looks like the scoundrel has already changed the password himself. Can an admin reset the password until this issue is cleared? OwenX 14:50, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

My inclination is to block the account until the real User turns up. I've posted a request for advice. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 15:09, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

So far the only page affected is his User Page. Since I can't believe Wragge would choose an obvious password, my guess is that someone (child? roommate?) has physical access to his PC. Maybe it'll be sufficient just to lock that page for now. OwenX 16:31, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Done. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 16:54, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Starfleet ranks and insignia

The article has been improved drasticaly, I think this is a good enough reason to reopen the FA status of this article. To be fair I am notifying all parties involved with the article on old candidacy. If I forgot one of you, its not intentional. Thats all for now --Cool Cat ^{My Talk} 1 July 2005 00:15 (UTC)

[edit] Doomsday Argument article

I've made some changes to the paragraphs in the article that refer to my preprint paper. I hope they clarify things a bit.

I was wondering if I should make a page describing my "generalization" of the Doomsday Argument to the many-worlds scenario? It would include your excellent Bayesian vague prior stuff but would interpret it within a "many-worlds" ontology (big words eh?)

User talk:John Eastmond 18:25, Sat July 16 2005 (UTC)

[edit] More game theory stuff

Wragge - I hope all is well. I am starting to make a push for a WikiProject game theory. I've posted some notes on talk pages and I've gotten some feedback. I assume you would probably be interested if I started one. For the time being, however, would you mind having a look at this page: User:Kzollman/Matrix? I am trying to develop a standard way of representing games on wikipedia, and would love your comment. Feel free to modify the page as you see fit. --best, kevin ···Kzollman | Talk··· 06:45, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

Wragge - I hope that you're still around. If you are, I have started Wikipedia:WikiProject Game theory. Please come by and join us! --best, kevin ···Kzollman | Talk··· 00:03, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Doomsday argument

Pardon my usage nazism, but PLEASE do not write "a <= b" if you mean "a ≤ b", ESPECIALLY in TeX:

WRONG:

RIGHT:

Michael Hardy 00:56, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Conquer Online

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article Conquer Online, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Marc 12:04, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Random remarks

I was just browsing around and came across your profile. I have to compliment you for the great userpage; I enjoyed the wit in these sections ([2][3][4]).

Best wishes, Havelock the Dane 22:20, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Please consider voting for poverty on the article improvement drive

Hi Wragge, I noticed you commented on the poverty talk page - it would be great if you could add your vote for the article improvement drive. It's an important article but it needs a lot of work, it seems to me. Thanks mate Wanderingatlarge (talk) 22:49, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Season's Greetings

May this season bring you success, good times and happiness. Looking forward to working with you in the future.
Hαvεlok беседа мансарда 07:12, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Cheers, Seasons Greetings to everyone. --Wragge (talk) 17:28, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comment

[5] - it's not a force to begin with, "The Force" is just the name of the energy. It's non-standard English (My apologies for using the word "bad" in the edit summary - there is no such thing as "bad" English) to use the same abstract noun twice in that context. What's your reason for undoing my revision, friend? I'd like an explanation so I might learn something :-) Scarian^{Call me Pat} 16:39, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

My concern was mostly about the explanation (as I describe in answer to Scarian on User_talk:Scarian#Elegant Variation, but whether or not the mythical Lucas "Force" is physically an "Energy field" or a "Force", I don't know. --Wragge (talk) 17:29, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I realised that. Thanks for explanation! Have a nice New Year too! :-) Scarian^{Call me Pat} 18:17, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

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