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Contents 1 Discussion 2 Tighter categorisation 3 B-Class criteria 4 Help 5 List as 6 Template:AUCK

[edit] Discussion

I was about to suggest the same idea. Did you propose this template somewhere just to advertise these it? 16@r (talk) 23:35, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I'd wanted to do something like this for a while, but I asked at WT:COUNCIL first to check that it hadn't already been done. When the response was negative, I cooked this up - it's a shamless plagiarism from the Tulips example at WP:COUNCIL, along with bits pinched from WP:AFRICA, WP:BALLET and various other places. Happy‑melon 09:45, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Eek. I'm not sure where, but somewhere near the beginning of this a "br" is generated when this is used in WPBannerShell. To see what I mean, take a look at Talk:Sun Ra. From what I can tell, the namespace code at the beginning is causing that line. Perhaps a <--(newline)--> between that an the table? -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 21:31, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tighter categorisation

Hi,

I've just spent a little while improving the Geology template so it creates more specific categories: for example, "High-importance Stub-class geology articles". When you changed the template to the new "universal" format, these changes were lost. I think the idea of having a centrally maintained template such as this one is truly excellent, and wonder whether my coding could be incorporated into it? You should find it simple enough to see what I've done.

Best,

Verisimilus T 14:16, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Responded on Template talk:WikiProject Geology. Happy‑melon 15:23, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] B-Class criteria

I can't find it so I though I'd ask. Is there a way to include the B-class article checklist? If not, that's fine and I'll code it into the old project template we used to use. Thanks! §hep • ¡Talk to me! 22:43, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

There currently isn't anything hard-coded into the banner, although there are numerous places where you can 'hang' extra code as required (|BOTTOM_TEXT= and |COLLAPSED_TEXT= are good ones). How standardised are the B-class assessments between wikiprojects? If they are almost universal, I could work something into the banner; but if the assessments are customised for each project, then it wouldn't be worth it. Happy‑melon 10:29, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

According to the 1.0 Team

Commonly the highest article grade that is assigned outside a more formal review process. Has several of the elements described in "start", usually a majority of the material needed for a comprehensive article. Nonetheless, it has some gaps or missing elements or references, needs editing for language usage or clarity, balance of content, or contains other policy problems such as copyright, Neutral Point Of View (NPOV) or No Original Research (NOR). With NPOV a well written B-class may correspond to the "Wikipedia 0.5" or "usable" standard. Articles that are close to GA status but don't meet the Good article criteria should be B- or Start-class articles.

Following that the MILHIS banner seems to have the coding that does the trick. | This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-Class status:


1. Referencing and citation: not checked
2. Coverage and accuracy: not checked
3. Structure: not checked
4. Grammar: not checked
5. Supporting materials: not checked

To fill out this checklist, please add the following to the template call:
<!-- B-Class-1. It is suitably referenced, and all major points have appropriate inline citations. -->
|B-Class-1=yes/no
<!-- B-Class-2. It reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain obvious omissions or inaccuracies. -->
|B-Class-2=yes/no
<!-- B-Class-3. It has a defined structure, including a lead section and one or more sections of content. -->
|B-Class-3=yes/no
<!-- B-Class-4. It is free from major grammatical errors. -->
|B-Class-4=yes/no
<!-- B-Class-5. It contains appropriate supporting materials, such as an infobox, images, or diagrams. -->
|B-Class-5=yes/no |#default=}}

That looks fairly similar to the criteria set forth by WP:1. It would be nice to have it set up though, so if the article was above B-Class the checklist wouldn't appear. What do you think? §hep • ¡Talk to me! 20:31, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

As I said, implementing a checklist like that would be relatively easy, as would the trick you suggest. The question is, how widely would it be used? Remember that any addition made to the metatemplate increases the code size for all projects using the banner, on all pages where a banner based on it appears. It's only worth adding if the majority of projects which do B-class checklists use exactly this set of criteria, in that precise order, etc etc. How widespread is this system? Happy‑melon 20:38, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I honestly don't have a clue. Would you mind putting a checklist on Template:OH-Project; I can't figure it out how to make it just appear on articles that are rated B and below with the Meta syntax. Thanks. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 20:49, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help

Template:Ottawaproject and Template:WikiProject Toronto, both of which use this template, have spontaneously dropped the word "article" from their categories -- they are now categorising into "Stub-Class Toronto", "Mid-importance Ottawa" etc.. whereas a few days ago it was "Stub-Class Toronto articles", "Mid-importance Ottawa articles". Could someone please take a look? --Padraic 11:59, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Both Fixed Happy‑melon 12:08, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks! They also don't seem to be indexed by the bot -- any thoughts on that? --Padraic 12:33, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Two projects I work with appear to have been affected by this problem. Both WP:HAM and WP:NUDITY have dropped "articles" from the category name. Was this a planned change? If so, I'd appreciate some direction to instructions on adjusting categories to the new standard. Thanks. --StuffOfInterest (talk) 16:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok, most importantly: to fix this problem, which seems to be fairly widespread, you need to add "articles" to the end of whatever you've got in |ASSESSMENT_CAT=. Eg these edits of mine: [1], [2], [3]. As to why it's recently started doing it, well, it was always supposed to be this way: if you check the documentation you'll see that parameter was supposed to be an omnipotent opt-out. As it is, I made a little error the first time I wrote that piece of code (I coded {{#if:{{{ASSESSMENT_CAT|}}}|{{{ASSESSMENT_CAT}}}|{{{PROJECT}}}}} articles instead of {{#if:{{{ASSESSMENT_CAT|}}}|{{{ASSESSMENT_CAT}}}|{{{PROJECT}}} articles}}) and then copied it everywhere else I needed that functionality; as such, this is really a bug which was worked around by 'breaking' all the instance templates. Happy‑melon 20:06, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I've "fixed" the two projects I'm involved with. Thanks for explaining what happened. --StuffOfInterest (talk) 20:37, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List as

It seems that many templates have been written to override listas parameters. Thus, when I look at a category like Category:GA-Class Chicago articles all the names are in the wrong places. Is there a reason for this? Please drop a note on my talk page when you respond to this.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 00:59, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:AUCK

It seems that the Wikiproject Auckland bannere located here has begun to suffer some problems, i.e deadlinks occuring that do infact have pages at the other end, although I am not positive if this is the source, these problems didnt exist before a banner appeared on the template page telling me to refer here about problems with the WPBannerMeta data, qhich i suspect is the problem. Could someone please help with the problem? Taifarious1 03:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Fixed Happy‑melon 07:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)