User talk:WorMzy
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Both "colour" and "color" are correct spellings: "colour" is the correct British one, and "color" is the correct American one. (In fact the original Latin spelling was "color", so this form is older. See Online Etymology Dictionary.) But neither of this matters. The Wikipedia guidelines on spelling are clear: articles about British subjects should use British spelling, articles about American (US) subjects should use American spelling, and articles about generic subjects should not be arbitrarily changed from one spelling to another. Since the first non-stub version of color used American spelling, this is one that should be used (unless there is a very good reason for the contrary). - Mike Rosoft 18:37, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- Last time I checked, en.Wikipedia.org used English, not Latin, and colour is the Real English spelling. 'Unless there is a very good reason for the contrary' The good reason has already been stated, in that it is not the correct spelling. Now, I'm a patient man, but if you are going to continue to vandalise my spelling corrections then why should I continue to be nice about this? I could have just moved the article under "color" to "colour" then made color redirect to colour (which is as it should be) but I decided to be nice and allow the wrong spelling to remain. Any 'broken links' or whatever would redirect to the correct spelling anyway so there would be no problems. --WorMzy 18:48, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a place to argue whether British English or American English is the True English Language (TM). I already said that all these arguments are irrelevant: Wikipedia recognizes both British and American spelling as correct, and the fact that you don't is not a good reason to change every other article. I also gave you a link to the Wikipedia guidelines page. Now please stop your unilateral changes of American spelling to British, and read the guidelines instead. (If you believe that British, rather than American spelling should be used in an article, try making your case at the appropriate talk page first.) Contrary to what you say, it is your edits which may be regarded as vandalism, and result in you being blocked. - Mike Rosoft 20:01, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- Perhaps my edits will be seen as vandalism, but atleast my 'vandalism' is in the interest of people who speak correct English. I tried to suggest that you allow two pages, one devoted to the American spelling and one devoted to the English spelling but you dismissed that without any thought at all. If you won't allow corrections to be made to other pages then what other options are left? You keep reverting my changes on the Chroma key topic, which is about an English technique (it even states that on the page), so that seems to show that even if the topic is English you will continue to enforce the incorrect language. Maybe Wikipedia should consider having seperate addresses for American topics and English topics (i.e en.Wikipedia.org for English and na.Wikipedia.org for North America) That way you wouldn't have to force the incorrect words upon us Real English people. --WorMzy 20:14, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- Once again, the fact that you don't regard American English to constitute correct English is completely irrelevant. And the Chroma key article doesn't say that it is primarily a British technique (it just says that BBC calls it "colour-separation overlay"). As far as I know, it is a generic topic, for which the spelling should not be wantonly changed from American to British or vice versa. If you believe otherwise, make your case at the talk page. And when I said "make your case", I didn't mean "state your opinion and then continue reverting to British spelling". Just like in case of other major changes, you should actually seek opinion of other editors and try to achieve consensus. - Mike Rosoft 20:23, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- Fine, I admit that I'm wrong in trying to correct those spelling mistakes, but tell me: is Wikipedia an American only site now? Because I really don't understand why real English is being oppressed like this. Please tell me why English people have to put up with American spellings, but English people aren't allowed to have the website displayed in their language? Where should I make a page about having seperate addresses for the different languages, O' Lord of Unparallelled Injustice and Oppression? --WorMzy 20:31, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- For the last time: Wikipedia does not only consider American spelling to be correct, just like it does not only consider British spelling to be correct. It accepts both as correct, and says that one shouldn't be changed to other without a good reason. Please actually read the guidelines before making such accusations. Regarding your question on where you should post your whining that Wikipedia doesn't allow you to change all the articles to the Correct English Spelling (TM) - preferably, go to a personal website provider (note: Wikipedia is not one) and publish your opinions there. - Mike Rosoft 20:48, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- So you're saying that Wikipedia accepts both spellings as correct, but you've already shown that you won't allow Real English spellings, and instead you only accept American English. You may want to clear up that contradictory stance. I feel as though I've already explained my actions adequately, I just don't understand the level of dictatorship that you're administering. It seems to me as though you're just forcing incorrect spellings upon me and all other English people, which, I suppose, would be classed as abuse of power. Now that's not very nice now is it. --WorMzy 21:08, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- I have already explained why I had reverted your changes from "color" to "colour": it was because articles about subjects which are not linked to a particular English-speaking country should not be wantonly changed from American spelling to British, or other way round. The first non-stub version used American spelling, so this is the one which should be retained. Had you unilaterally changed British spelling in an article to American, I would have also reverted it. And you keep saying that you don't consider American English to be correct - well, opinion noted, but you are not the single judge on what is correct and what is not. - Mike Rosoft 21:20, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- I may not be a judge, but I'm still an English citizen born and raised, and therefore English is my first language; and as such I feel the need to encourage correct English. Some may consider American English to be correct, but that's their problem not mine, I encourage people to write in the correct English, which is, and always will be, the language spoken in England (hence the name). Now like I suggested before, Wikipedia should make two different addresses to avoid the conflictions between the different variations instead of just shunting different spellings away. "EN" stands for English, and therefore all the pages within en.Wikipedia.org should be in English, not American. --WorMzy 21:40, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- I don't care that you don't consider American English to be correct. And neither does Wikipedia. I already linked you to the guidelines twice; here they are for the third time. Please actually read them before continuing the debate. (And also note that the language spoken in the United States is called American English; in other words, Americans speak the English language, not American language.) - Mike Rosoft 21:51, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- I know that they speak American English, as I have used that term twice already, you may wish to consider actually reading my replies before you try to criticise me on the terms I use. American English and English are very different languages, and as you have already shown that you don't like me to use the term "Real English" I showed them as being different by the only other way possible: American and English. Wikipedia already has a diverse selection of different languages, so why does it not have differing addresses for both American and English? Is it just laziness on Wikipedia's part, or has the thought never crossed your minds before? I shall ask once again, is there a place on Wikipedia where it would be possible to suggest this? --WorMzy 22:14, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- I don't care that you don't consider American English to be correct. And neither does Wikipedia. I already linked you to the guidelines twice; here they are for the third time. Please actually read them before continuing the debate. (And also note that the language spoken in the United States is called American English; in other words, Americans speak the English language, not American language.) - Mike Rosoft 21:51, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- I may not be a judge, but I'm still an English citizen born and raised, and therefore English is my first language; and as such I feel the need to encourage correct English. Some may consider American English to be correct, but that's their problem not mine, I encourage people to write in the correct English, which is, and always will be, the language spoken in England (hence the name). Now like I suggested before, Wikipedia should make two different addresses to avoid the conflictions between the different variations instead of just shunting different spellings away. "EN" stands for English, and therefore all the pages within en.Wikipedia.org should be in English, not American. --WorMzy 21:40, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- I have already explained why I had reverted your changes from "color" to "colour": it was because articles about subjects which are not linked to a particular English-speaking country should not be wantonly changed from American spelling to British, or other way round. The first non-stub version used American spelling, so this is the one which should be retained. Had you unilaterally changed British spelling in an article to American, I would have also reverted it. And you keep saying that you don't consider American English to be correct - well, opinion noted, but you are not the single judge on what is correct and what is not. - Mike Rosoft 21:20, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- So you're saying that Wikipedia accepts both spellings as correct, but you've already shown that you won't allow Real English spellings, and instead you only accept American English. You may want to clear up that contradictory stance. I feel as though I've already explained my actions adequately, I just don't understand the level of dictatorship that you're administering. It seems to me as though you're just forcing incorrect spellings upon me and all other English people, which, I suppose, would be classed as abuse of power. Now that's not very nice now is it. --WorMzy 21:08, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- For the last time: Wikipedia does not only consider American spelling to be correct, just like it does not only consider British spelling to be correct. It accepts both as correct, and says that one shouldn't be changed to other without a good reason. Please actually read the guidelines before making such accusations. Regarding your question on where you should post your whining that Wikipedia doesn't allow you to change all the articles to the Correct English Spelling (TM) - preferably, go to a personal website provider (note: Wikipedia is not one) and publish your opinions there. - Mike Rosoft 20:48, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- Fine, I admit that I'm wrong in trying to correct those spelling mistakes, but tell me: is Wikipedia an American only site now? Because I really don't understand why real English is being oppressed like this. Please tell me why English people have to put up with American spellings, but English people aren't allowed to have the website displayed in their language? Where should I make a page about having seperate addresses for the different languages, O' Lord of Unparallelled Injustice and Oppression? --WorMzy 20:31, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- Once again, the fact that you don't regard American English to constitute correct English is completely irrelevant. And the Chroma key article doesn't say that it is primarily a British technique (it just says that BBC calls it "colour-separation overlay"). As far as I know, it is a generic topic, for which the spelling should not be wantonly changed from American to British or vice versa. If you believe otherwise, make your case at the talk page. And when I said "make your case", I didn't mean "state your opinion and then continue reverting to British spelling". Just like in case of other major changes, you should actually seek opinion of other editors and try to achieve consensus. - Mike Rosoft 20:23, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- Perhaps my edits will be seen as vandalism, but atleast my 'vandalism' is in the interest of people who speak correct English. I tried to suggest that you allow two pages, one devoted to the American spelling and one devoted to the English spelling but you dismissed that without any thought at all. If you won't allow corrections to be made to other pages then what other options are left? You keep reverting my changes on the Chroma key topic, which is about an English technique (it even states that on the page), so that seems to show that even if the topic is English you will continue to enforce the incorrect language. Maybe Wikipedia should consider having seperate addresses for American topics and English topics (i.e en.Wikipedia.org for English and na.Wikipedia.org for North America) That way you wouldn't have to force the incorrect words upon us Real English people. --WorMzy 20:14, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a place to argue whether British English or American English is the True English Language (TM). I already said that all these arguments are irrelevant: Wikipedia recognizes both British and American spelling as correct, and the fact that you don't is not a good reason to change every other article. I also gave you a link to the Wikipedia guidelines page. Now please stop your unilateral changes of American spelling to British, and read the guidelines instead. (If you believe that British, rather than American spelling should be used in an article, try making your case at the appropriate talk page first.) Contrary to what you say, it is your edits which may be regarded as vandalism, and result in you being blocked. - Mike Rosoft 20:01, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
No. American English is not a different language from the English language; it is its subgroup, just like British English (or "English English"). If you want to suggest a new address for American English - I don't know where to go, maybe start at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) - but in all likelihood it would be rejected as completely unnecessary. (Where would it end? With a different Wikipedia for each dialect of the English language?) Until/unless you persuade the majority of users to change the policies and guidelines, you should follow them as they exist now. - Mike Rosoft 22:36, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Releasedate The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass
Hello WorMzy,
You keep editing the releasedate of The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, while Nintendo has officially announced it. An exact date by an unreliable source that is incorrect is a 100 times more useless then the official date.
There is no question about which period. As the article that is linked to, the holiday season in video games is the Christmas holiday period.
JackSparrow Ninja 02:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
