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[edit] Women's 50 LCM Back record (3/28 & 3/29)

As noted on the Backstroke page, we should keep track the double record set by Leila Vaziri in the 50 Back, since she swam a 28.16 in semifinals at world champs, and then followed it up with a 28.16 in finals. I also noted that the finals record was in finals, since both records were at the same meet (to disambiguate), even though the presumption is that records are set in finals or timed finals. –Pakman044 14:26, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

This item is moot as the records have been superceded. –Pakman044 20:24, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Duel in the Pool 4/3/2007 - Lenton 100 LCM Freestyle Record rejected

Just a note to everyone that Libby Lenton's 100 LCM Freestyle leadoff split of 52.99 in the 400 LCM Mixed Free Relay at Duel in the Pool was rejected by FINA (see Footnote 2). Please do not revert this record to 52.99L unless 1) FINA gives evidence that they've changed their mind, or 2) someone else breaks the record. It doesn't matter that 53.30 is slower than 52.99, but rather it matters what FINA says the record is. –Pakman044 07:14, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Asterisks (*)

Note, if a time has an asterisk (*) next to it, please leave the asterisk next to the time until the FINA world record website reflects the new record. Thanks! –Pakman044 01:51, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Long course: what is it?

What are long and short courses? Could someone elaborate or provide a link? Thanks. Pgr94 08:18, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Not a problem. Long course is the distance of pool you will see in the Olympics: the length of the pool is 50 meters long (USA Swimming elaborates that the pool can also be 55 yards in length, which is just over 50m). A short course pool is half of that: 25 meters. You will frequently see a distinction made as to whether the pool is short course meters (25 meters) or short course yards (25 yards) in the United States.
This does of course make a differnce--when you swim, you are never going at a faster speed than when you are coming off of a wall. In long course, there are half as many turns/pushes off of a wall than in short course, and the distance between them is doubled (e.g., in a 400 meter freestyle, there will be 7 turns in long course, whereas there will be 15 in short course). –Pakman044 21:29, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the clear explanation. I didn't know that that there were records for 25m pools. Pgr94 21:48, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Ziegler 800 & 1500 Short Course records

Just as a note, the Ziegler records in the 800 & 1500 short course freestyle were set during the same event. You can set a record at a shorter distance by rule during a longer event, although this is highly unusual. The event was the 1500 meter freestyle, and the 800 meter record was broken along the way. –Pakman044 21:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

See FINA SW 12.9. Intermediate distance generally implies an intermediate distance from the start of the race, not from any given point in the race (compare with USA Swimming rules, which use the term "initial distance"). The event must be completed without disqualification in order to achieve the split time. –Pakman044 05:07, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
This is now a moot point as Ziegler has broken the 800 record in the actual event this time (8:08.00). –Pakman044 16:53, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] No 4x50 m Freestyle Relay records

I reverted recent additions of 4x50 meter Freestyle Relay records. Per FINA rules, there are no world records in these events (FINA SW 12.1 and SW 12.2); see also the FINA Swimming records page. –Pakman044 (talk) 16:33, 27 November 2007 (UTC)