Talk:World Youth Day

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Contents 1 Lack of sources etc 2 Individual Logos 3 Attendance Figures 4 World Youth Festival 5 Annual gathering 6 POV tag 7 Ephemera

[edit] Lack of sources etc

In answer to "is this mostly original research" - a lot of the content of the page does seem to be based upon the USCCB page http://www.usccb.org/laity/youth/wydoverview.shtml - I have added that as an external link for now. Not sure if it is copyvio or whether it should be a reference instead of / as well as an external link. 80.168.225.120 20:14, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Individual Logos

Would it be possible to add the logotypes for the different world youth days?

I think those should go on the articles for the individual World Youth Days. Except those pages don't exist yet... TheCoffee 19:55, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Both the logos on this page, and pages for some of the individual WYDs now exist. 80.168.225.120 20:12, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

OK, to be specific, some of the later logos now exist. See below for why 1993's logo got removed :( 80.168.225.120 20:16, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Attendance Figures

Can anyone provide a source for the attendance figures given? Thank you! --63.65.27.18 21:16, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

The numbers seem to have been partly based upon the USCCB website http://www.usccb.org/laity/youth/wydoverview.shtml - I have added that as an external link; the 1.2 million figure for 2005 can be found at various other places, I have added a specific reference for that. 80.168.225.120 20:11, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

It concerns me that these figures rely entirely on official Catholic estimates, given the obvious interest this source has in overstating the actual numbers. Further, this seems to be a consistent trend – see the following sources: www.smh.com.au/text/articles/2008/04/30/1209234957542.html www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0MKY/is_15_26/ai_94043378 Consider also for a moment the ubiquitous discrepancy between police and protestor attendance estimates at political rallies. IMHO attendance figures should be removed unless they are verified by a reasonably independent source. Alternatively, it should be highlighted that these are figures directly from the Catholic Church. Interestingly, it would be quite easy for the Catholic Church to provide official pilgrim numbers, as they are required to register their attendance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.9.151.30 (talk) 04:32, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] World Youth Festival

Is there a risk of this conference being confused with the World Youth Festival? (The 16:th of which is being held in Venezuela this year.) -- ABostrom 20:52, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

Suggest name change to Catholic World Youth Day to clarify, and to prevent appearance of Catholic-centric bias. 67.84.168.29 03:46, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

I think World Youth Day is the official name and many people know it by that name. Anyway, I changed the first sentence to clarify that the WYD is a Roman Catholic celebration. --Jojit fb 03:58, 25 August 2005 (UTC)So they could learn more about the pope and things like that.

The official name is World Youth Day, and the event - while Catholic in concept and content - is actually open to all youth of all faiths. This is the reference: http://www.wyd2008.org/index.php/en/wyd08_pilgrims/frequently_asked_questions#8. Apermal 14:56, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I checked through Google and could not find a listing for "World Youth Day" that corresponded to anything except the subject of this event. I think the name World Youth Day stands as it's not being confused with the World Youth Festival. Bullschuck 20:38, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

I have edited the intro to clarify the Catholic nature of the event (so as not to introduce bias/confusion to casual browsers), whilst still retaining the open nature of the invitation. Also nb the above reference link no longer works, but the new equivalent link http://www.wyd2008.org/index.php/en/faqs is now a reference in the article itself 80.168.225.120 20:28, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Annual gathering

WYD is an annual gathering. It happens internationally every 2-3 years but doesn't mean it doesn't happen at all at other years.

See http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/laity/Colonia2005/rc_pc_laity_doc_20030805_cross-history-gmg_en.html for more information.

--mintchocicecream 07:34, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV tag

This concerns POV tag cleanup. Whenever an POV tag is placed, it is necessary to also post a message in the discussion section stating clearly why it is thought the article does not comply with POV guidelines, and suggestions for how to improve it. This permits discussion and consensus among editors. This is a drive-by tag, which is discouraged in WP, and it shall be removed. Future tags should have discussion posted as to why the tag was placed, and how the topic might be improved. Better yet, edit the topic yourself with the improvements. This statement is not a judgement of content, it is only a cleanup of frivolously and/or arbitrarily placed tags. No discussion, no tag.Jjdon (talk) 21:59, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ephemera

The State Library of New South Wales is collecting ephemera relating to this event. Please send any ephemera to State Library of New South Wales, Macquarie Street, Sydney, N.S.W. 2000 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oztealady (talk • contribs) 10:31, 30 April 2008 (UTC)